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Yeah, if anyone tells you to get a revolver, don't listen to anything else they have to say.
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I'd be interested. That said, depending on what you're doing, you can easily blow past $500 just on a light and an optic.
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My dad picked up a PDP recently (to replace his P88 ) and its a really ergonomically pleasing pistol but holy hell the recoil spring is fucking heavy - I understand why people talk about replacing the plastic guide rod with a metal one. Is this just a PDP thing? Will it be something on the PDP-F or have I only used pistols designed for limp wristed faggots like myself?
Revolvers are fun and cool.
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Builds are always fun.
My pops got that cheap turk gun and feel like a nigger with an 94 Caddy getting rent a rims. More money is in the mods already just from a side saddle and stock. It's a fine gun but kinda funny.
tomorrow range day in the morning, really looking forward to punching some paper.
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Captured Sinaloa Cartel armored box truck with M2:
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Romulus augustulus
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yeah, don't listen to anything this guy has to say.
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I don't recall having any issue with the PDP compared to any other pistol. It's probably lighter than my Beretta come to think of it.
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I'm going to ask him if he got upsold some sort of upgrade when he bought it then.
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UPDATE: The DOJ has been bullied into not being retarded, and has dropped the SBR charges. Meaning he is still on the hook for Count Two in which the pistol is considered a pistol.
HOWEVER
They are still going after 80% receiver kits through retroactive enforcement.
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If cartels weren't awful I'd say this is legit the most cool shit ever.
Under rated film. Niggasaki!
SBRs are based and should be legal. I used a oujui board and Jefferson said 10.5 ARs are based and part of a proper anti red coat tool. 80%s are... not a gun, fucking niggers, what take apart my potty because I could make a gun from the thing I piss into... when it's dark and mrs doesn't let me go into the woods.
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This is a retarded position to take, and I'll explain why. I'm not going to pretend that a revolver is the greatest choice for a defensive handgun, nor am I going to pretend that it's useless in the 21st century.
As the late, great Paul Harrell explained on many occasions: statistically, the average number of shots fired during a self-defense shooting is three. Revolvers typically hold five or six rounds, sometimes more. That's more than enough to handle almost any dangerous situation you find yourself in. There are outliers, but they're extreme.
Yeah, they don't have all the super-duper useful capabilities like the ability to accept lights or red dots (for the most part), they're harder to reload, and I'll concede I'll always take a semi-automatic for my primary carry over a revolver. But you know what revolvers do well over semi-autos? It's extremely simple to check if a revolver is loaded, there's no out-of-battery issue when the muzzle is pressed against something, and you can't cause a stoppage by limp-wristing it.
If you want a semi-auto, get one. If you want a revolver, get one. Both are fine.
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I'd argue that, for the average gun buyer, a revolver is a strictly worse choice than an automatic. It's true that it's unlikely they'll need a reload in a typical self-defense scenario, but the more fiddly reloads also make them less fun to take to a range. Given that the average gun owner, in my experience, buys a gun and a box of ammo, blasts a couple of mags, and then never touches the gun again, anything that makes the experience of shooting less fun ought not be recommended to new shooters. @GloryToArztotska also mentioned larger calibers than 9x19 recoiling more than he cares to deal with. The slide cycling in an automatic will burn a lot of the kinetic energy of the recoil. I'm not saying that a .38 Special is particularly arduous to shoot, but in the sorts of revolvers the average gun buyer buys, e.g., S&W J-frames, Ruger LCRs, etc., it's generally less fun. The sights are also frequently gutter sights, which, in my experience, new shooters take longer to learn. This compounds the fun issue.
I teach people with a .22 pistol, on a half-size silhouette, at three yards. They basically can't miss at that range. This guarantees success for their first few attempts. Succeeding is fun. Once they've had a mag or two to acclimate to the fundamentals, then we back out to seven, ten, fifteen, and so on. Challenge is also fun, but only after some baseline comfort with the fundamentals is established. If you've never shot a gun before, trying to hit a target you find challenging is only frustrating, because you don't know what you're doing wrong. You or I could take a shot at a half-size silhouette at twenty-five or thirty yards, miss, and know what we did wrong. The neophyte only knows he failed, and has no idea how to correct the error. The more fun someone's introduction to shooting is, the more they'll want to shoot, leading to a better shooter overall. @GloryToArztotska seems to be skipping the .22, which, honestly, is fair. It's not a requirement, but it's a nice, easy introduction that most people find more easily approachable than jumping straight to a service pistol. Paul was brilliant, but he was certainly an enthusiast, making videos for enthusiasts.
tl;dr: Revolvers are fine, but, if they're a first gun, definitely rent the specific make and model you'll be buying, so that you don't buy something you find more annoying than fun.
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I mean it depends on what utility you're getting out of it, if it's a small carry option, a j-frame is not a bad choice, unless you're willing to carry a p365 (sorry, don't trust sig) there's not many pocket guns on the market worth it, besides the bodyguard 2.0. If you're going full size though, unless it's for show (open carry), there's hardly any utility to carrying a full size .357 when a glock 19 is smaller with way more bang for your buck.
I carry a J-frame smith on occasion and when I'm dressed up out of state I carry my single action army
edit: forgot to mention that revolvers are good training tools for new shooters, and the obvious, it's better to buy a gun you like because than at least you'll carry it
I carry a J-frame smith on occasion and when I'm dressed up out of state I carry my single action army
edit: forgot to mention that revolvers are good training tools for new shooters, and the obvious, it's better to buy a gun you like because than at least you'll carry it
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A revolver is ok IMO.
Also IMO they take more effort to become proficient with and most folks will simply have an easier time with a pistol.
Also IMO they take more effort to become proficient with and most folks will simply have an easier time with a pistol.
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My comment was in response to someone who has not owned a gun, is uneasy around them, not familiar with firing them and has concerns over comfort and practicality.
A revolver is objectively not the right choice for them.
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I like my j frame because it fits in a small fanny-pack and it's the only handgun I'm comfortable carrying loaded without a holster(if need be). I also like that it evokes less 'scary, tactical' gun vibes than my other carry options(mostly irrelevant I know).
Wouldn't recommend one for a brand new shooter, but I haven't found something that's better enough at what it does to make me switch.
Comparing the F and standard compact side to side the F is slightly less snappy.
Wouldn't recommend one for a brand new shooter, but I haven't found something that's better enough at what it does to make me switch.
The slide on the pdp f is very easy to manipulate, right up there with the shield EZ. The regular version isn't bad either because of the deep serrations. The stock recoil rod/spring is light imo. Almost too light for a lot of people so thet switch it out for an aftermarket option. Maybe he bought a used one with an different one installed? Does it have problems cycling light ammo?
Comparing the F and standard compact side to side the F is slightly less snappy.
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more on revolvers:
A revolver is more tolerant of neglect than a automatic pistol. I owned for a Colt's 1851 navy revolver made in 1855 for a while before flipping it for profit. That gun still functioned despite looking like it had fought two world wars. A revolver can sit in or on a nightstand for generations and still function just as fine as the day it was put away. The main spring on a revolver will last a lot longer than the recoil spring in a auto.
A auto cannot say the same. Gunk, dust, dirt and hardened lube will stop a automatic from function if it is allowed to build up through neglect.
A revolver is a pretty well sealed system. the action, while complicated on a Double action (single actions are very simple internally) there is not many points of ingress into the action where-as on a automatic the gun is basically wide open when it is cycled or unloaded.
An automatic is more tolerant of abuse. A revolver may be thrown out of time if it's thrown from a car or dropped off a high place like may happen during combat (its still fairly unlikely though). An Auto can fire a lot more rounds between cleanings than a revolver would. A revolver will start to get sluggish around 3,000-4,000 rounds with dirty ammo. most of my autos can take dirty ammo forever if they are built well. Blowing sand in a sandstorm might lodge under the extractor star of a DA/SA revolver with a swing out cylinder which can cause the cylinder to improperly index. not a problem on a automatic.
IMO, for a person that only wants a gun for home defense or carry and will NOT practice or practice normal maintenance the revolver may be the better choice. yes, the DA trigger will decrease their accuracy but people like this won't practice anyway.
On the other hand, if you are a person who will practice, and who will practice normal maintenance and wish to use a revolver it is also a good choice because learning to shoot a double action revolver well will make you a better pistol shooter in all respects due to the level of trigger control you will learn.
The people in between these two extremes are those who the automatic pistol is best suited for. someone who will take care of their gun but maybe won't commit to the learning curve to really become a great shooter. maybe they shoot 100-200 rounds twice a month or something.
just my opinion of course.
A revolver is more tolerant of neglect than a automatic pistol. I owned for a Colt's 1851 navy revolver made in 1855 for a while before flipping it for profit. That gun still functioned despite looking like it had fought two world wars. A revolver can sit in or on a nightstand for generations and still function just as fine as the day it was put away. The main spring on a revolver will last a lot longer than the recoil spring in a auto.
A auto cannot say the same. Gunk, dust, dirt and hardened lube will stop a automatic from function if it is allowed to build up through neglect.
A revolver is a pretty well sealed system. the action, while complicated on a Double action (single actions are very simple internally) there is not many points of ingress into the action where-as on a automatic the gun is basically wide open when it is cycled or unloaded.
An automatic is more tolerant of abuse. A revolver may be thrown out of time if it's thrown from a car or dropped off a high place like may happen during combat (its still fairly unlikely though). An Auto can fire a lot more rounds between cleanings than a revolver would. A revolver will start to get sluggish around 3,000-4,000 rounds with dirty ammo. most of my autos can take dirty ammo forever if they are built well. Blowing sand in a sandstorm might lodge under the extractor star of a DA/SA revolver with a swing out cylinder which can cause the cylinder to improperly index. not a problem on a automatic.
IMO, for a person that only wants a gun for home defense or carry and will NOT practice or practice normal maintenance the revolver may be the better choice. yes, the DA trigger will decrease their accuracy but people like this won't practice anyway.
On the other hand, if you are a person who will practice, and who will practice normal maintenance and wish to use a revolver it is also a good choice because learning to shoot a double action revolver well will make you a better pistol shooter in all respects due to the level of trigger control you will learn.
The people in between these two extremes are those who the automatic pistol is best suited for. someone who will take care of their gun but maybe won't commit to the learning curve to really become a great shooter. maybe they shoot 100-200 rounds twice a month or something.
just my opinion of course.
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If you're shooting 100-200 twice a month and can't be a great shooter you're doing something incredibly wrong.