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GloryToArztotska said:
I think you misunderstand. I haven't used a firearm before, but in the event I ever got a handgun I'd want to start right-ish the 1st time, and from what I've seen of Glocks up close (i.e. interacting/working with cops) those things look pretty big and I can't imagine I'd find them wieldy. I could be wrong, I suppose.

tl;dr: I was asking more as a thought exercise for my inner engineer than because I'm a gun collector or anything. That much said, still good to know, so appreciated.
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If you don't have previous experience with other handguns (see my sperging about grip angle a couple pages ago), and aren't enthusiastic about guns, the right answer is a police trade-in Glock 17 or 19, depending on body proportions. I don't even like Glocks, but they're the handgun equivalent of a dishwasher. Do you know the make and model of your dishwasher? Probably not, because it does the job it's made for with no fuss.

In the event that you have some extremely specific condition that rules Glocks out, most any polymer-framed, striker-fired handgun will do the same job. They're all functionally interchangeable. That whole genre of pistols are dishwasher equivalents.
 
Alcoholism said:
Issue is that many ranges for liability and security issues won't let you rent a gun without bringing your own as well.
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My local range only requires you bring in your own gun if you’re renting a machine gun. They have a “rule of two” policy; you either have to bring in another gun or another person to prove that you’re responsible
 
GloryToArztotska said:
I think you misunderstand. I haven't used a firearm before, but in the event I ever got a handgun I'd want to start right-ish the 1st time, and from what I've seen of Glocks up close (i.e. interacting/working with cops) those things look pretty big and I can't imagine I'd find them wieldy. I could be wrong, I suppose.
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Gun stores exist for this reason. Go finger fuck some. Just keep in mind most gun store employees are fucking retarded.
 
needforsneed said:
Just picked up a $150 mossberg 500 with a vent rib - anyone want me to make a series of posts documenting my process of turning it from a sport gun to a home defense gun? I think I can get the entire project done for ~$500.
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I'd be interested. That said, depending on what you're doing, you can easily blow past $500 just on a light and an optic.
 
Alcoholism said:
try the PDP-F.
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My dad picked up a PDP recently (to replace his P88 ) and its a really ergonomically pleasing pistol but holy hell the recoil spring is fucking heavy - I understand why people talk about replacing the plastic guide rod with a metal one. Is this just a PDP thing? Will it be something on the PDP-F or have I only used pistols designed for limp wristed faggots like myself?

Revolvers are fun and cool.
 
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WhatInTheActualFuck said:
I'd be interested. That said, depending on what you're doing, you can easily blow past $500 just on a light and an optic.
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Builds are always fun.

My pops got that cheap turk gun and feel like a nigger with an 94 Caddy getting rent a rims. More money is in the mods already just from a side saddle and stock. It's a fine gun but kinda funny.

tomorrow range day in the morning, really looking forward to punching some paper.
 
Polock said:
My dad picked up a PDP recently (to replace his P88 ) and its a really ergonomically pleasing pistol but holy hell the recoil spring is fucking heavy - I understand why people talk about replacing the plastic guide rod with a metal one. Is this just a PDP thing? Will it be something on the PDP-F or have I only used pistols designed for limp wristed faggots like myself?

Revolvers are fun and cool.
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I don't recall having any issue with the PDP compared to any other pistol. It's probably lighter than my Beretta come to think of it.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
The DOJ is not doing well. A man was charged with having an "unregistered short barreled rifle" in the form of a braced Scorpion pistol back in 2023. The DOJ was petitioned to drop the charges pending the ATF being slapped for choosing to view pistol braces as stocks.
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Not only did they double down, but they also charged him with carrying a pistol without a license in the District of Columbia. So it's now both an SBR and a pistol in legal filings. Government is seemingly going full retard on many fronts at this point in time.
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UPDATE: The DOJ has been bullied into not being retarded, and has dropped the SBR charges. Meaning he is still on the hook for Count Two in which the pistol is considered a pistol.
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They are still going after 80% receiver kits through retroactive enforcement.
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Pocket Dragoon said:
Captured Sinaloa Cartel armored box truck with M2:
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If cartels weren't awful I'd say this is legit the most cool shit ever.
MrB said:
do we have a problem.mp4
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Under rated film. Niggasaki!


WhoBusTank69 said:
UPDATE: The DOJ has been bullied into not being retarded, and has dropped the SBR charges. Meaning he is still on the hook for Count Two in which the pistol is considered a pistol.
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They are still going after 80% receiver kits through retroactive enforcement.
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SBRs are based and should be legal. I used a oujui board and Jefferson said 10.5 ARs are based and part of a proper anti red coat tool. 80%s are... not a gun, fucking niggers, what take apart my potty because I could make a gun from the thing I piss into... when it's dark and mrs doesn't let me go into the woods.
 
Alcoholism said:
Yeah, if anyone tells you to get a revolver, don't listen to anything else they have to say.
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This is a retarded position to take, and I'll explain why. I'm not going to pretend that a revolver is the greatest choice for a defensive handgun, nor am I going to pretend that it's useless in the 21st century.

As the late, great Paul Harrell explained on many occasions: statistically, the average number of shots fired during a self-defense shooting is three. Revolvers typically hold five or six rounds, sometimes more. That's more than enough to handle almost any dangerous situation you find yourself in. There are outliers, but they're extreme.

Yeah, they don't have all the super-duper useful capabilities like the ability to accept lights or red dots (for the most part), they're harder to reload, and I'll concede I'll always take a semi-automatic for my primary carry over a revolver. But you know what revolvers do well over semi-autos? It's extremely simple to check if a revolver is loaded, there's no out-of-battery issue when the muzzle is pressed against something, and you can't cause a stoppage by limp-wristing it.

If you want a semi-auto, get one. If you want a revolver, get one. Both are fine.
 
Ass to Ass said:
This is a retarded position to take, and I'll explain why. I'm not going to pretend that a revolver is the greatest choice for a defensive handgun, nor am I going to pretend that it's useless in the 21st century.

As the late, great Paul Harrell explained on many occasions: statistically, the average number of shots fired during a self-defense shooting is three. Revolvers typically hold five or six rounds, sometimes more. That's more than enough to handle almost any dangerous situation you find yourself in. There are outliers, but they're extreme.

Yeah, they don't have all the super-duper useful capabilities like the ability to accept lights or red dots (for the most part), they're harder to reload, and I'll concede I'll always take a semi-automatic for my primary carry over a revolver. But you know what revolvers do well over semi-autos? It's extremely simple to check if a revolver is loaded, there's no out-of-battery issue when the muzzle is pressed against something, and you can't cause a stoppage by limp-wristing it.

If you want a semi-auto, get one. If you want a revolver, get one. Both are fine.
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I'd argue that, for the average gun buyer, a revolver is a strictly worse choice than an automatic. It's true that it's unlikely they'll need a reload in a typical self-defense scenario, but the more fiddly reloads also make them less fun to take to a range. Given that the average gun owner, in my experience, buys a gun and a box of ammo, blasts a couple of mags, and then never touches the gun again, anything that makes the experience of shooting less fun ought not be recommended to new shooters. @GloryToArztotska also mentioned larger calibers than 9x19 recoiling more than he cares to deal with. The slide cycling in an automatic will burn a lot of the kinetic energy of the recoil. I'm not saying that a .38 Special is particularly arduous to shoot, but in the sorts of revolvers the average gun buyer buys, e.g., S&W J-frames, Ruger LCRs, etc., it's generally less fun. The sights are also frequently gutter sights, which, in my experience, new shooters take longer to learn. This compounds the fun issue.

I teach people with a .22 pistol, on a half-size silhouette, at three yards. They basically can't miss at that range. This guarantees success for their first few attempts. Succeeding is fun. Once they've had a mag or two to acclimate to the fundamentals, then we back out to seven, ten, fifteen, and so on. Challenge is also fun, but only after some baseline comfort with the fundamentals is established. If you've never shot a gun before, trying to hit a target you find challenging is only frustrating, because you don't know what you're doing wrong. You or I could take a shot at a half-size silhouette at twenty-five or thirty yards, miss, and know what we did wrong. The neophyte only knows he failed, and has no idea how to correct the error. The more fun someone's introduction to shooting is, the more they'll want to shoot, leading to a better shooter overall. @GloryToArztotska seems to be skipping the .22, which, honestly, is fair. It's not a requirement, but it's a nice, easy introduction that most people find more easily approachable than jumping straight to a service pistol. Paul was brilliant, but he was certainly an enthusiast, making videos for enthusiasts.

tl;dr: Revolvers are fine, but, if they're a first gun, definitely rent the specific make and model you'll be buying, so that you don't buy something you find more annoying than fun.
 
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