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He's brown, I don't think you realize the extent to which progressives worship non whites. A lot of religious people worship their actual Gods with less fervor and revelance.
I am very familiar with their bizarre white man's burden mindset. I'm just wondering out of ALL the immigrants Trump deported, they go all in on the gangbanger with a record. I have met illegal immigrants, some of them are very nice people who would make for a much more sympathetic protagonist of a human interest news story than this degenerate.
 
I am very familiar with their bizarre white man's burden mindset. I'm just wondering out of ALL the immigrants Trump deported, they go all in on the gangbanger with a record. I have met illegal immigrants, some of them are very nice people who would make for a much more sympathetic protagonist of a human interest news story than this degenerate.
Think they latched onto him, at least initially, because of that whole "mistakenly deported" aspect of his story.
 
I have found and read that article already, I don't consider it a reliable source. There is too much shit flinging from everywhere on this. I am trying to find the court filings or other type of official document.

There is one article in a .gov website that mentions "trafficking", but nothing more concrete than that. I am not saying it didn't happen, just that I am not going to believe based on that.

Overall, all the additional background info is really just to laugh at how bad the DNC and journalists are messing things up with their new victim-darling.
The main issue is that he was an illegal, with a deportation order. He was deported. The end.
 
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Yeah, a retarded one.

Chop Top's point was that he doesn't really care for either team and doesn't feel like picking sides and yet here you are saying he is picking the side of the muslims by not picking the side of the jews, even accusing him of thinking Muslims are good (lmao), thereby proving his initial claim that people seem to have forgotten that you do not need to pick sides.

You really should've taken that nap half an hour ago.
I don’t think “I’m not picking sides” is real most of the time. Maybe your side is just a feeling, maybe it’s an aesthetic decision that you know isn’t going to win an argument on the internet. That’s all fine, though.

But most of the time when someone’s on the internet talking about something, they have an opinion about it, and pretending they don’t is being evasive
 
There is one article in a .gov website that mentions "trafficking", but nothing more concrete than that.
Would be funny if they are withholding that info intentionally just to let the opposition dig that hole even deeper, before getting buried in it when they reveal that he is actually a confirmed MS-13 member who was trafficking his colleagues into Florida when he was arrested.

Please god let this be the case because it would be so fucking funny.
 
It's incredibly infuriating how my friend has bought into the narrative that this piece of shit is a 'poor citizen mistakenly deported to some random country'
And the thing about it is it's not even a narrative, it's blatant misinformation

In your quest to hate Jews, you enable Muslims. That is like people who jerk off to lolicon and don't understand how that creates a culture which enables real predators. Also, before anyone spergs out, that's just an example. I am in no way, shape, or form accusing Chop Top of that gross shit.

I will "old man yells at cloud" as much as I please. At least you're right that I need a nap.
If your stance on the Israel/Palestine issue is anything besides "I hope they nuke each other into oblivion" and you're not a normie then you're a fucking faggot
 
People are acting like that El Salvadorian faggot was a prominent doctor or physicist or something. He cut hair part time at an unlicensed salon and collected welfare benefits.

Wow what a valuable citizen and American hero.
Lol, what about the other guy? He worked in manufacturing. You MAGA faggots can't even feign that you give a shit about blue-collar workers or reshoring manufacturing from China.
 
Think they latched onto him, at least initially, because of that whole "mistakenly deported" aspect of his story.
And out of all the people we deported so far, he was the only one with the order not to return to his home country?

The odd indefinite order to not return him to El Salvador due to concerns about gang violence and weird human trafficking thing in Tennessee where Biden's FBI had them drop the case is getting my noggin jogging...

Is this guy a fed asset, like an informat or simply a goon doing shady stuff on their behalf? Could explain why he got all this special treatment.
 
Trump Silences Gun Control Talk After FSU Shooting: 'The Gun Doesn't Do the Shooting; The People Do' (archive)

Article includes these quotes from Trump:
“Look, I’m a big advocate of the Second Amendment. I have been from the beginning. I’ve protected it,” Trump said.
“These things are terrible. But the gun doesn’t do the shooting; the people do,” he pointed out.
“I have an obligation to protect the Second Amendment,” the president added. “I will always protect the Second Amendment.”


I'm glad he's taking a stronger 2A stance this administration.
 
Luffy met with the people of Skypiea (or Samoa) and signed EO for greater fishing access, was also seen as Nika The Sun God:

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More should be brought up about how Chynese fishing is destroying sustainability and ruining the entire operation, they send fleets out who suck up everything like it's a Captain Planet strawman villain and the environments can't replenish. It's going to be a serious issue.


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Senator Faggot in El Salvador looks like a hot dog thrown down a whore's hallway:

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For some levity, dumb liberal gets kicked out of restaurant in VA after yelling at MAGA couple, her boyfirend has some gay ass Magic the Gathering ponytail:

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Not sure how I feel about the seafood EO tbh, but I will admit that whatever we do, it will be better than China and allows us to prevent China from fishing in our borders.
 
But most of the time when someone’s on the internet talking about something, they have an opinion about it, and pretending they don’t is being evasive
I don’t think “I’m not picking sides” is real most of the time
You are conflating "having an opinion" with "supporting one side over the other".

Maybe I can have an opinion on a conflict without picking a side in that conflict. That'd be pretty nutso, who knows if humans are able to have that much nuance?
What's next? Not liking the Israeli Government and Mossad, but without putting the collective blame on every single jew?

... No, I think that's a bit too crazy even for me.
 
Well, we are heading to SCOTUS at a breakneck speed, as the 4th Circuit decided to go entirely off the rails in their latest filing. They denied Trump's motion to stay proceedings pending appeal, and said some truly insane shit. Starting with some free praise for the insane district judge.
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Followed up by a complete misstatement of the case history and basic facts:
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As we discussed, Garcia was never a resident and received ample due process in an immigration court and an appeals court. He's had more than his share.
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I'm starting to think this judges haven't even read the file. These issues were already adjudicated by the immigration courts, who have jurisdiction. Orders of withholding are at the discretion of the Executive, as are Foreign Terrorist Designations. These are not re-viewable by the District court.
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First, one attorney (since fired for incompetence) in an initial oral proceeding, does not the position of the government make. Secondly, Garcia is a foreign citizen in the custody of his home nation. The US Government and especially this court has zero jurisdiction. None, zilch, zero, nope, nada, can't do it.
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The context of facilitate this court claims it isn't bound by is the context of the legal term of art in the immigration context. You can't take the term of art from its context, then try to replace it with a different meaning and shove that meaning into the context. Even if you tried, facilitate is not proactive or external, it is complimentary to the actions of another. If I am getting a couch delivered to me, I can facilitate that delivery by sharing my phone number with the furniture store, being home at time of delivery, opening the door, taking up the rug, etc. This is different from me driving to their warehouse and loading it in my truck itself - that would be effectuating, ie to make it happen.

In the immigration context the term of art facillitate means that, if an illegal were to say present himself at the border, ICE/DHS would allow them entry for the purpose of showing up at their hearings and not put up any barriers to this. It does not include sending planes to whatever country they are in, or sending Seal Team Six to bust them out of a foreign prison.
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No shit, thats what you're doing now.
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Here we see how crazy they are; the means, the laws, are made by CONGRESS. The judiciary does not get to make up laws and legislate from the bench, but this court think they are able to do so. Insane.
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I can't tell if I'm reading a court opinion or some puff piece from CNN. There was due process, there was no valid order preventing this deportation. No process involved with Garcia could be used on an American citizen, period. This is just hysterical attempts at gaslighting.
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This is ridiculous on its face. A sovereign nation has no responsibility to extradite its citizens to a foreign nation. And likewise the US has no right to demand they do so. Even so, for such matters as criminal extradition, those are party to treaties which are the sole purview of other government branches - not the courts.

Further, Garcia does have recourse of law - in El Salvador, where he is a citizen and currently held!
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:smug:"Dude we just ignored all the facts, all the law, and acted like you're our bitch that has to do whatever we say. We just ordered you to invade another country and snatch up a terrorist gang member to let loose on the citizens. Like bro, why are you mad?"
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This part is especially rich. Who is going to end up with egg on their face, the executive trying to keep illegal invader gang bangers out of the community, or the justices pitching bitch fits and throwing tantrums with gavel banging histrionics?

Roberts needs to borrow some balls from Thomas, and start smacking down these district courts. This is insane.
 

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Lol, what about the other guy? He worked in manufacturing. You MAGA faggots can't even feign that you give a shit about blue-collar workers or reshoring manufacturing from China.
This country has 380 million people in it I think we can probably find someone other than an MS-13 gang member to work an entry level job dude.
 
How have Americans become so braindead they think that for every conflict they must choose a side?
Byproduct of Boomers holding up their glory days of being activists as the most important thing to ever happen to America.

Israel/Palestine is just the Zoomer Civil Rights movement. Most of the kids bitching about it couldn't care less or even know what they are fighting for, they just want their moment of defiance that will go into the history books since Boomers hyped up theirs. Best thing to come out of this is how the Left ultimately fucked themselves with this one as their activist culture placed them squarely in the middle of a party civil war.

How have Americans become so braindead they think that Muslims are good after they flew planes into our buildings and killed 3,000 Americans?
Demographics shifts - More muslims are now currently in our country.

Jews/Dems also screwed themselves with their never ending drivel of the plight of the colored. It was only a matter of time before a conflict of browns vs whites would place the Dems in a situation, and here we are. BLM is now off the chain and gunning for Jews (The White Devils) since they are coked out on race politics of the 2010s.
 
Thank you. I am still not 100%, but a lot more confident now.

I think it is still important for people to not allow the goalpost to be moved - he was illegally in the country. Period.
All this other shit makes this whole thing so funny though!

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@Jace on ice I don't think that is possible. SCOTUS has already reminded the other judge who said the Administration needs to facilitate and "effectuate" the release that they were overstepping and foreign relations are a matter for the President, not an immigration court.
For the meme, I like the suggestion of another Kiwi of going to Congress to request approval for invasion!

Edit2: I did not read the new update, I might be retarded with my previous edit 🌈
 
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Byproduct of Boomers holding up their glory days of being activists as the most important thing to ever happen to America.
500,000 people attended Woodstock. A couple hundred thousand marched for Civil Rights. Only a few thousand Boomers were at Kent State.

If you are Gen-X, you have met and been lectured about "Murica bad, mmmmmmmmmmmmmkaaaaaaaaay" by EVERY FUCKING SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Most Boomers didn't do shit until it came time to tell their kids how they marched right next to MLK, went to Woodstock, and were at Kent State when it all went down, which is why they stood next to Jane Fonda and Kerry in order to protest Vietnam. THEY STOPPED VIETNAM!!!!!

Fuck. You think you hate them enough...

...you fucking don't.
 
What exactly happens if the Supreme Court orders Trump to return the guy and El Salvador just says no as they almost certainly will?
Congress will have to declare war on them so we can free the literal heart eaters.
I don't think that Trump is going to do a random military op to break him out after working with El Salvador to fill up the superjail.
 
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