African-American Appreciation Thread - Highlighting contributions from our most productive citizens

[Soggy paper straw]

There were theories why schizophrenia may manifest too, mostly that it seems to correlate with poor prenatal care and cannabis use

There is also an association between psychosis (which I think in this discussion is used interchangeably with schizophrenia) and intellectual disability (the old "mental retardation")

The prevalence of psychosis in a population with ID is at least three times higher than that in the general population.
Link

And of course it is more difficult to teach how to manage it (e.g. - "although the voices are telling you to do X, don't do X") to retarded people

People with [intellectual disability] and [schizophrenia /psychosis] appear to be more debilitated by the co-occurring disorder than those with the same disorder but without ID
Link

I wonder how much all these things are inter-connected. Retarded people are less able to explain strange stimuli, thus more likely to find supernatural explanations (e.g., that noise was actually a spirit that is haunting me -vs- it could just be the wind), which create further stress and make the psychosis worse.
Also, less intelligent people being more likely to start using cannabis in their younger years (the main link is for use when younger). Bad prenatal care often leads to conditions linked to mental retardation.
There are a lot of people who hear voices and such, but are not violent at all and are also not diagnosed with schizophrenia. The key difference is that they manage it so well that it does not impact their daily living that much. I suspect that IQ, not only culture, is a defining characteristic here.

My understanding with schizophrenia is that it’s partly based on genetics and partly based on life experience, so for example if you take two people genetically predisposed to schizophrenia and one has a happy childhood and one that has a traumatic childhood the latter will be more likely to actually develop schizophrenia later on.

A big issue is that what something being "genetic" means is never explained that well. Rarely with complex conditions saying that it is genetic means that it is that one single gene, and that it will manifest 100% of the time. What you are describing is more Gene X Environment interaction (which differs from Gene - Environment correlation), but want to clarify further the nuance.
It is possible that, even given the same predisposition, the one with the happy childhood was not genetically susceptible to the interaction between schizophrenia and bad childhood. Genetics can also mediate that relationship, so it is not a simple recipe of
schizophrenia likelihood = childhood abuse + cannabis + ethnicity + socioeconomic status + IQ
where, given the same severity, it has always the same effect
but for some people some of the factors, at the same intensity, may have zero effect, because they have genetically something that protects them against their impact, or could be exceptionally susceptible to others.
Anyway, schizophrenia is one of the most heritable mental disorder at about 70% heritability. It is also one of the few where there are marked differences in the brain (not always tough)

I didn't know that- looked into scholarly works and the few I've seen so far that corroborate that statistic simultaneously blame it on doctors being racist against blacks and creoles for giving them a diagnosis that could save their life

I wonder with the consistency of Caribbean blacks being more likely to have schizophrenia, to what degree it is linked to voodoo culture. In turn, to what degree voodoo culture is linked to IQ.
There is also an increased risk for all immigrants, even white ones going to white cultures. There is potentially something there where the second, third, etc generations have inherited the increased risk, which was genetically there to begin with and was further increased with the migration.

Ironically, there is a big debate on diagnosis psychosis/schizophrenia in Africa (and other less developed countries) as it is considered culturally-bound. As I said above, hearing voices and other symptoms are not necessarily life destroying. However, it would still be interesting to explore more how much the, shall we call it propensity?, to symptoms of psychosis is by culture/ethnicity

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

>Self entitled Karen
Ah, this is why I hate language like that, it means nothing except whatever you want it to mean at the moment

Also considering how vague the actual description of Schizophrenia is, how often it is erroneously diagnosed, how random the symptoms and how few of the objective and observable ones even need to be present, combined with the loose handwavey nature of the disorder.... Diagnosing someone with it or even a predisposition to it might as well be as pointless as diagnosing someone with a predisposition to going to the supermarket to buy bread this morning
"Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but if he won't then he still will, we just won't see it, and if he doesn't buy bread then that's just an atypical case, and if he never left the house then we can only surmise he has a supermarket inside his house. listen, we HAVE to make this work somehow, ok?"

What we call schizophrenia or any kind of schizotypical disorder is usually just a vast collection of different actual disorders, mixed in with syndromes, mixed in with temporary conditions, mixed in with physical conditions, mixed in with just differences in personality and attitude, plus a sprinkling of whoever gave a psychiatrist the bad vibes this week, and all together they get lumped into one group under the umbrella of "yo dis guy be cray put him on da meth"

 

[The Last Stand]

Black woman whips up a mom and surrounds Wuestenberg's car, banging on it (damaging it) and not letting her leave. Wuestenberg pulls a gun. The media turns the story into "racist white woman threatens sweet, innocent black teen" - Wuestenberg and her husband are both fired from their jobs, and indicted by a Soros prosecutor. The case is only dismissed years later when the innocent black teen can't be bothered to show up to court. Wuestenberg's life is ruined. Don't let this happen to you.

Another lesson, if you have a gun and you feel your life is in danger, USE IT. I wondered what happened to that Black woman and teen since then. Probably nothing. That's the worst case scenario, no net positive from their their entitlement. One had more to lose than the other.

 

[Chromeo]

Just when you think reality can't get anymore parody-like, you scroll through YouTube shorts and find a livestream of a black woman not only eating a big bowl of corn starch, but using a bar of soap as a spoon.

 

[byron]

if you have a gun and you feel your life is in danger, USE IT.

If you have a gun, please study and even memorize the self defense laws in your state. Knowing the law is just as important as knowing how to use a gun.

In my state, I don't think you'd be justified in using lethal force against someone who is attacking your car.

eating a big bowl of corn starch

You can post that here too: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/niggers-eating-cornstarch.158504/

Thread tax: imagine walking down a street and hearing a car behind you and your first thought is to intentionally inconvenience this random stranger for absolutely no reason - you're just such an antisocial asshole that you take any opportunity to make other people's lives more difficult.

It is impossible to have a civilization made up of people with this sort of demeanor. Come on! There's just no way! They have no concept of a "social contract"

Reminds me of this guy from a couple of years ago: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...yclist-tries-rip-trams-windscreen-wipers.html


Walking on the train tracks. The train doesn't even blow its horn. It just rings the bell. This 60 IQ asshole gets angry at the train. "How dare a train be on these train tracks!"

We cannot have a civilization with these people in it.

 

[The Last Stand]

If you have a gun, please study and even memorize the self defense laws in your state. Knowing the law is just as important as knowing how to use a gun.

In my state, I don't think you'd be justified in using lethal force against someone who is attacking your car.

I was thinking short-term, in context with that video. The woman was just standing there brandishing the gun and trying to talk the threat away. Now that I think of it, just using the gun during ANY perceived threat would be pure impulse.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Just when you think reality can't get anymore parody-like, you scroll through YouTube shorts and find a livestream of a black woman not only eating a big bowl of corn starch, but using a bar of soap as a spoon.
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I have no mouth and I must cronch

 

[Wild at Heart]

If you have a gun, please study and even memorize the self defense laws in your state. Knowing the law is just as important as knowing how to use a gun.

In my state, I don't think you'd be justified in using lethal force against someone who is attacking your car.


You can post that here too: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/niggers-eating-cornstarch.158504/

Thread tax: imagine walking down a street and hearing a car behind you and your first thought is to intentionally inconvenience this random stranger for absolutely no reason - you're just such an antisocial asshole that you take any opportunity to make other people's lives more difficult.

It is impossible to have a civilization made up of people with this sort of demeanor. Come on! There's just no way! They have no concept of a "social contract"

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Watching foreign cops operate shows you how much our cops hold back. Seeing them hit the guy with their door and take his leg out is so logical it baffles me I never see it done. Would probably be "brutality" here. Wish our cops didn't have to baby every criminal and could still use the necessary force to defend the peace and their life. Doing this lets them skip the whole 15 minute part of bodycam videos where the black guy yells "THEY TRYNA KILL ME I CAN BREEF!" just take his ass down and be done with it ffs. Time is money!

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

These and other experiences had me wondering if American blacks are more predisposed to schizophrenia, just a genetic issue like other races can have, and a cursory search says:
"The immigrant groups that are predominate in the increased schizophrenia diagnosis are of black origin. The highest rates of schizophrenia diagnosis come from those of Afro-Caribbean ethnicity and those with black African descent.
In the US, African Americans have been found to be three times more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, and when taking socioeconomic status into account they are two times more likely than their white counterparts."

There were theories why schizophrenia may manifest too, mostly that it seems to correlate with poor prenatal care and cannabis use... it doesn't seem to be a genetic thing like sickle cell but rather a result of cultural issues. It was just an unusual pattern that I wanted to confirm, like the cornstarch eating

There is a link with mental illness and urban living, Cities literally drive people crazy. It's a bad idea to stuff your most unstable populations into cities.

The risk for schizophrenia at the most urban environment was estimated to be 2.37 times higher than in the most rural environment. The same effect was found when studies measuring the risk for nonaffective psychosis were included.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3494055/

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

There is a link with mental illness and urban living

True, but to what extent is it city living causing mental illness, and to what extent is it just that cities have more psychiatrists and people living IN cities are more likely to go to psychiatrists to get diagnosed
This stuff is often like getting your horoscope, it only applies after you're told about it and get it in your head

 

[NoBueno]

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[sherwoods110]

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I'm surprised that I have not seen more of her on here. Here is her X account: https://x.com/leonardaisfunE
Backup: https://x.com/Leonarda_Jonie

Anyone who is unfamiliar, check her out. You'll like her.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

True, but to what extent is it city living causing mental illness, and to what extent is it just that cities have more psychiatrists and people living IN cities are more likely to go to psychiatrists to get diagnosed
This stuff is often like getting your horoscope, it only applies after you're told about it and get it in your head

Schizophrenia isn't really on the heavily over-diagnosed list, is it?

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Schizophrenia isn't really on the heavily over-diagnosed list, is it?

Oh, it is, what rock have you been living on? Any disorder that has meds for it is immediately gonna be more commonly maliciously misdiagnosed just to sell those meds, as well as being a "scary" disorder that people wanna blame for otherwise personalities or behaviors that frighten them, because they don't know what to do if they have to fact the fact that it's just how a person is and not medical in nature
And that's not even getting into the fact that it's the go-to medical abuse diagnosis given to anyone who knows too much or notices things they shouldn't notice, but negroes don't usually fit into that category, they just get diagnosed for the tranquilizers

 

[The Last Stand]

There is a link with mental illness and urban living, Cities literally drive people crazy. It's a bad idea to stuff your most unstable populations into cities.

Speaking of which:

Older sister calls the cop to help her younger sister having a mental episode. Tragically, the older sister lashes out on the officers, sister in crisis AND her boyfriend. Her "calming down" her sister meaning elbowing her and screaming at her to STFU, as if that doesn't make her episode worse.

It's obvious that she is unfit to care for ANYBODY. This beats repeating, but that behavior is NOT uncommon with Black women.

 

[Gruntgar The Indentured]

If you have a gun, please study and even memorize the self defense laws in your state. Knowing the law is just as important as knowing how to use a gun.

In my state, I don't think you'd be justified in using lethal force against someone who is attacking your car.

Crazy idea but what if, after obtaining a CCW permit, the licensing agency could offer a 25% voucher towards purchasing eyewear (prescription or not) with recording capabilities. The niggers have regretted demanding bodycams for LEO's for a while now. Eye worn civilian body cams would be a lucrative business. Ray-Ban has FB enabled eyewear that I wouldn't wear even if I was the guy in the Twilight Zone episode who couldn't read after breaking his own. There will need to be some company not associated with Meta or Ring for anyone to trust it.
"You say you have video evidence to back up your self defense claim sir?"

"I swear it was right here. FB and/or Amazon couldn't have deleted my video could they?"

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Oh, it is, what rock have you been living on? Any disorder that has meds for it is immediately gonna be more commonly maliciously misdiagnosed just to sell those meds, as well as being a "scary" disorder that people wanna blame for otherwise personalities or behaviors that frighten them, because they don't know what to do if they have to fact the fact that it's just how a person is and not medical in nature

Pretty sure the PRN Zyprexa I had to take last time I went inpatient to stave off what sounded like a butt rock radio announcer endlessly taunting me while I was trying to sleep was medical in nature. In other news, Karmelo Anthony b da victum 'n' sheeit:

Spoiler: YouTube

 

[Chromeo]

True, but to what extent is it city living causing mental illness, and to what extent is it just that cities have more psychiatrists and people living IN cities are more likely to go to psychiatrists to get diagnosed
This stuff is often like getting your horoscope, it only applies after you're told about it and get it in your head

I'd say it's a little of column A, a little of column B. You're more likely to see a psychiatrist, but you're also more likely to need one. I know from personal experience even sane people are more on-edge and hostile in shitty living spaces. You never realize how much it stresses you out when there's constant noise, threats of violence, and you can't get reliable privacy.

Pretty sure the PRN Zyprexa I had to take last time I went inpatient to stave off what sounded like a butt rock radio announcer endlessly taunting me while I was trying to sleep was medical in nature.

This too, schizophrenia is undoubtedly real but it can also be over-diagnosed in people who don't have it. Just like anxiety, autism, ADHD, and depression are real but you know that 90% of the people online who claim to have them are just lying for clout.

 

[Trig.Point]

>Self entitled Karen
Ah, this is why I hate language like that, it means nothing except whatever you want it to mean at the moment

Also considering how vague the actual description of Schizophrenia is, how often it is erroneously diagnosed, how random the symptoms and how few of the objective and observable ones even need to be present, combined with the loose handwavey nature of the disorder.... Diagnosing someone with it or even a predisposition to it might as well be as pointless as diagnosing someone with a predisposition to going to the supermarket to buy bread this morning
"Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but if he won't then he still will, we just won't see it, and if he doesn't buy bread then that's just an atypical case, and if he never left the house then we can only surmise he has a supermarket inside his house. listen, we HAVE to make this work somehow, ok?"

What we call schizophrenia or any kind of schizotypical disorder is usually just a vast collection of different actual disorders, mixed in with syndromes, mixed in with temporary conditions, mixed in with physical conditions, mixed in with just differences in personality and attitude, plus a sprinkling of whoever gave a psychiatrist the bad vibes this week, and all together they get lumped into one group under the umbrella of "yo dis guy be cray put him on da meth"

So are you saying that being a nigger makes you less or more likely to have a certifiable medical mental condition?

 

[lurker2newfag]

God I hate niggers. It transcends my general racism and stops being about not being white and purely about being a nigger.