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Globalism is having its wheel come off at the darn axle.

we are sailing in super uncharted waters, post ww2 the world pegged its economy onto the dollar like your girlfriend when youve been drinking whiskey, what happens when they no longer wish to trade in good faith?

methinks the next 5-10 years might not be the best
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
You sound communist. Stop being a commie. Apple can charge $1500 per phone because people pay for it. The market speaks, and prices follow.
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The problem is, the market isn't speaking. They're been psychologically manipulated, which is a fact, not a conspiracy,


JayseeDenton said:
Please tell me you're being facetious and you aren't actually this retarded? The assembly cost is not the only thing that goes into the iphone's existence.
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The $30 was a guess/example/comparison. I didn't expect people to trip over their own autism and get caught up on that number vs the idea.
 
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StudMccool said:
we are sailing in super uncharted waters, post ww2 the world pegged its economy onto the dollar like your girlfriend when youve been drinking whiskey, what happens when they no longer wish to trade in good faith?
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The world was trading in good faith before?

I ve been posting those peter zeihin videos of his melt down, but in his books he does explain things rather well.

Some political back ground.

Monetary or Economic policey has political goals.

High employment is good it keeps people from complaining. They are busy working and hopefully building material wealth. The CCP has a policy of "If the peasents are working, it means they arent gonna riot"

When xing dengpin did the free market reforms in china allowing them to move away from a command economy or mao ist or what ever the fuck it was he said

“不管黑猫白猫，捉到老鼠就是好猫。”
“It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white; as long as it catches mice, it's a good cat.”

But lets move away from communist shit and pick a country like the UK. Lets say say the british pound is strong that makes british goods cost more, exports go down and employment goes down, that make the voters un happy. So the british have a motive to have exports high, to make employment go up, to make the voters happy. So the goverment does things to depress the value of the british pound. When goverments do this shit they are creating distortions in the market data, and makes it hard for people to what shit really costs.

Same issue with soviet and chinese economies their systems dont have good information so no one knows what anythings is worth hence the cat mice qoute.

So before the EU monetary unions you also had what the

1. The british plound £
2. French Frank ₣
3. German mark ℳ
4. italian lira ₤
5. Spanish peso ₧
6. Greek drachma ₯

Etc.

So imagine a system where you have reason to want more money coming in than going out, you want high employment, etc. So you depress the value of your own currency to make your exports cheaper, or you export more than you import and realize a profit.

But imagine doing buisness and sales contract lets say england wants spanich ham, and spain wants british machine tooling, so orders are put in and good delivered but in the 6-12 months it takes the fill the order woops the value of pounds to pesos moved, and wells someone got a good deal and someone else didnt.

This is not counting jew banks playing fuck fuck games.

here have soros video about fuck fuck games


So lets bring this back to a bigger point, In Europe you have a bunch of countries, peoples, economies etc that are competing with eachother with honestly rather real motives to fuck around.

Like I often say Americans do not thing about the world do not need vast imports of good, and play very very different fuck fuck games with regards to our monetary policey.

Again I would say the way America runs the dollar is pants on head retarded, but we dont play the boost employment by boosting exports by surpressing the dollar game.

I m using chat gpt to describe the M2 money supply of the above countries in 1990

1. UK about 300 billion pounds
2. Germay about 730 billion marks
3 france 1.5 trillion francs
4. spain N/A
5. Italy 964 trillion lira

So you need money that keeps its value and you need a vast supply of it, Something the USD is able to do.

There isnt any currency in the word that can give trade what it needs, which is basically a bunch of super fucking austists that wont play fuck fuck games.
 
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Bog-standard Poster said:
They're been psychologically manipulated, which is a fact, not a conspiracy,
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I'm legit curious. Please tell us more or share some links.
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The $30 was a guess/example/comparison. I didn't expect people to trip over their own autism and get caught up on that number vs the idea.
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I didn't want to go all r*dditor on you by asking for source on the BOM you quoted since it wasn't pertinent to your overall point, but you were just straight up making that up? Damn bro, you trolled me good.... *sigh*
 
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Dave The Diver said:
I'm legit curious. Please tell us more or share some links.
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Large companies use psychologists to better understand how to market a product.
Apple has rabid fans because of how they've created the cult around their products. It's not a dig, it's genius how they've done it. Same with Nintendo, Air Jordans, Sony, Disney etc, etc,

For a better understanding of this, read 'Influence:Science and Persuasion' by Robert Cialdini, who is a marketing/sales guru. It's a fascinating read about how our mammalian system (think fight or flight) can be 'hijacked' to convince us to buy shit we don't really need.
 
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Bog-standard Poster said:
Large companies use psychologists to better understand how to market a product.
Apple has rabid fans because of how they've created the cult around their products. It's not a dig, it's genius how they've done it. Same with Nintendo, Air Jordans, Sony, Disney etc, etc,
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Ah, you're talking about brand development. For some reason I thought you were alluding to a grand conspiracy on a national level aimed at getting people to consoom more.

Apple is definitely heavy on the "social proof" aspect. I'm not sure if they actively do anything to encourage this besides putting out a good product (in terms of design and UX, not necessarily hardware specs) for a premium price, but there's a reason we have an anti-trust case against Apple about the stigma of "blue vs green" text bubbles. I definitely agree that luxury brands like LV or Hermes engage with these tricks.

It's tough out there, man. Even potato chip companies are hiring psychologists to design the perfect chip bag that'll influence you into consoooming more. Line must go up!
 
Dave The Diver said:
Ah, you're talking about brand development. For some reason I thought you were alluding to a grand conspiracy on a national level aimed at getting people to consoom more.
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There is a national level psychological persuasion to get people to consume more, it's casting a big net to get the lines to go up on many graphs. The proof is in the pudding. Consumerism didn't exist to the extent it does when comparing 90's/2000's to now.
The WWW was designed for the free sharing of ideas and information. Now it's the greatest marketing campaign in human history.
From political infighting grifters, to consumerist FOMO of MTX and season passes in games, to social media showcasing carefully curated pics of purchased, over-priced slop.
It's why, many posts ago, I was saying Trump would do well to destroy this culture of slop consumerism because it empowers China.

Dave The Diver said:
Apple is definitely heavy on the "social proof" aspect. I'm not sure if they actively do anything to encourage this besides putting out a good product (in terms of design and UX, not necessarily hardware specs) for a premium price, but there's a reason we have an anti-trust case against Apple about the stigma of "blue vs green" text bubbles. I definitely agree that luxury brands like LV or Hermes engage with these tricks.

It's tough out there, man. Even potato chip companies are hiring psychologists to design the perfect chip bag that'll influence you into consoooming more. Line must go up!
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Attractive design and marketing has been a thing for a long, long time. An insidious example is the rhetoric used with cigarettes, from the packaging, to symbolism of 'cool' and rebellious people in media, to the pay-off by the Dr's saying it was totally safe and healthy. All of that was psychological manipulation on a grand scale. That's before we talk about subliminal messaging of the mid-twentieth century cinemas.

Just as runners become faster, fighters become quicker and weight-lifters become stronger, so to do the methods of psychological manipulation on the people and the methods of delivery. Goebbels, the grand-father of propaganda, would be jizzing in his grave at the thought of what he could do with modern tech.
 
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Bog-standard Poster said:
The problem is, the market isn't speaking. They're been psychologically manipulated, which is a fact, not a conspiracy,
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You're claiming that Apple's reported ~$290b of costs, 77% of which is cost of revenue, in quarterly earnings reports, is illegitimate and fake. That means a conspiracy is happening. I'm not being psychologically manipulated into thinking that's what it costs to operate Apple. They are publishing that number in financial statements given to investors. Somebody, according to you, is cooking the books to come up with that number.
 
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