Manosphere Braden Peters / Clavicular / ylrevn - Moderator on looksmaxing.org, roid rat, takes out loans for cosmetic surgery, can't talk to women without doping, DIY surgeon

[Admiral Throbnelius]

I'm wondering why he's using a picture of @Monostar Leatherknuckles as his profile picture.

 

[Mound Dweller]

He's trying to get his chunky chin down to form for some yacht party or something (TEEF Braden, TEEF!) but The roidmaxxxing is catching up to him a little;

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This is the one that causes rapid onset multiple organ failure btw

 

[Meiwaku]

@Guns of the Gaytriots put this in the Op as a starter image

I left the Patrick quote in because it looked poetic

 

[Dead Lion]

This is the one that causes rapid onset multiple organ failure btw

You’d think normal people with a self preservation instinct run for the hills when hearing “rapid onset multiple organ failure”.

If that’s what it takes to get women these days I’m just going to follow the path of the wizard.

 

[NotClavicular]

He's trying to get his chunky chin down to form for some yacht party or something (TEEF Braden, TEEF!) but The roidmaxxxing is catching up to him a little;
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This is the one that causes rapid onset multiple organ failure btw
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I didn't realize people still took DNP
It has an awful reputation in the bodybuilder sphere because of how dangerous it is

 

[Hitchhiker]

I didn't realize people still took DNP
It has an awful reputation in the bodybuilder sphere because of how dangerous it is

What can you really expect out of a retard who takes dementia medication for fun. He clearly doesn't care about his health.

 

[Just A Rat]

Imagine putting your body through that only to look like a soft boi with the physique of a ball-jointed action figure that skipped leg day.

(Edit for wording)

 

[NotClavicular]

What can you really expect out of a retard who takes dementia medication for fun. He clearly doesn't care about his health.

He does care about his health.
He takes precautions to limit the damage, but once he feels like has taken those precautions, there's almost nothing he won’t do to reach his goals.

I get it because I’m the same. I did a steroid cycle a few months ago, fully aware of the risks. I wasn’t delusional, I just wanted results fast, and I was willing to accept the tradeoff.
When I take what feel like the "right" steps, bloodwork, PCT, clean diet, I stop worrying.
It’s irrational, maybe, but it creates this illusion of invincibility. I lowkey feel semi-immortal.
I know it’s reckless. I just don’t care as long as it works.
No… it’s not even that. It’s that I'm unable to care.

 

[Meiwaku]

No… it’s not even that. It’s that I'm unable to care

On one hand, I want you to keep giving us inside info so I don't want to be too mean, but on the other, I am compelled to tell you that you are gay and retarded for this.

Steady diet and exercise is the way. Same thing with natty weight lifting. Protein powder etc.

You sound young from the way you try to type like Patrick Bateman. You're probably in your early 20's, and as a man, that makes you legally retarded.

There's little difference between you people and trannies when it comes to magic pills and surgeries that ruin your body.

Stop chasing dragons that only men care about unless you only are interested in men.

 

[NotClavicular]

On one hand, I want you to keep giving us inside info so I don't want to be too mean, but on the other, I am compelled to tell you that you are gay and retarded for this.

Steady diet and exercise is the way. Same thing with natty weight lifting. Protein powder etc.

You sound young from the way you try to type like Patrick Bateman. You're probably in your early 20's, and as a man, that makes you legally retarded.

There's little difference between you people and trannies when it comes to magic pills and surgeries that ruin your body.

Stop chasing dragons that only men care about unless you only are interested in men.

Yeah, I know.
I did it because I’m a fool who can’t stop doing foolish things, like writing this reply.

 

[dick brain]

I wasn’t delusional, I just wanted results fast, and I was willing to accept the tradeoff.

I know it’s reckless. I just don’t care as long as it works.

This is called being a nigger.

 

[Meiwaku]

Yeah, I know.
I did it because I’m a fool who can’t stop doing foolish things, like writing this reply.

So then maybe you have a problem....

I have to ask, what got you into this community in the first place? I would assume your story would be similar to the person who we are talking about about so I feel it's relevant.

Do you know of any other members who feel the same way about clavicular?

 

[NotClavicular]

So then maybe you have a problem....

When I was a child, I destroyed something another kid had built.
My dad told me then that there are two types of people: those who create and those who destroy.

I have to ask, what got you into this community in the first place? I would assume your story would be similar to the person who we are talking about about so I feel it's relevant.

Spoiler: Personal anecdote most people aren't going to care about

As far as I know, I've always been very sensitive. Rejection-sensitive, neurotic, socially and competitively inhibited, and a perfectionist.
I started becoming self-conscious about my looks in kindergarten when some other kid said I looked like a girl because I had long hair.
That self-consciousness only expanded as I got older and started to include height, physique, and skin.

In late 2019, I was recommended a youtube video about orthotropics, which introduced the idea that facial attractiveness could be influenced by things like diet and tongue posture.
That intrigued me. I already believed that looks were important, and I thought that if I could improve mine, maybe I’d have a shot at making it in this world.

That’s when I fell down the rabbit hole.
Mewing wasn’t as well-known back then, but it wasn’t completely obscure either. I think I first found looksmax.org in 2020 after some Redditor linked it on an orthotropics subreddit.
That’s when I started becoming blackpilled about lookism. I began to believe that I needed to improve my looks enough to compensate for my lack of social skills and social relations.

Still, I wasn’t completely blackpilled. I never thought looks were the only thing that mattered, just that they were a big part of the equation.
But when I tried to actually improve my appearance through working out, skincare, or other methods, I ran into the problem of low executive function. So I didn’t see any real results until about four or five months ago, when I started training again after not having done so in ages because I hated it. I started my steroid cycle at the same time. My idea was that it would psychologically pressure me to work out consistently so I wouldn't waste the cycle, and it surprisingly worked. My mood constantly shifts between feeling great, terrible, numb, or full of hatred. Right now, I feel like shit writing this because of vyanse dread and pregabalin withdrawal, but at least I can say I consistently train four times a week and do other basic looksmaxxing. That might not sound impressive to most people, but considering I was unable to do that for five years, I think I should be happy about it.

Also, I'm already halfway through post-cycle therapy, so the worst parts of coming off the cycle are behind me.

I wouldn’t call myself blackpilled anymore. The term doesn’t have a solid definition, and using it just gets you lumped in with autists who think looks are the only thing that matters in life. I can't be asked to explain my full worldview around looks and personality, but it's more balanced and nuanced than that.
The only reason I wrote all this is because you asked and I'm on vyvanse, which, if you have any experience with, you’ll know can make you highly motivated to do the most pointless shit at times, or worse, self-destructive things. I'm aware that this thread is about Clavicular and not me, and that most people probably don't give a shit about my anecdote, but I felt compelled to write it anyway.

As for whether Clavicular's story is similar, I can't really say anything you don't already know. I already said this, but I honestly don't know that much about him, believe it or not.

 

[Meiwaku]

New YouTube video:

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He looks up to Andrew Tate, big shocker. Also funny to hear Clav talk about "low IQ" people.
Also, his Skool course has been updated with two new videos. Here they are (videos had to be recorded with OBS, apologies for any issues):
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An intro video and his first module, as a little sample. But wait, what's this?
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These videos seem to be direct embeds from Vimeo. Clicking the logo in the bottom left brings you to his Vimeo page(a), where he has accidentally leaked two more lessons for free:
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Have a bonus meme template:
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He keeps saying "misfortunate" instead of UNFORTUNATE and this is unfortunate. It is MISFORTUNE or UNFORTUNATE, you gay nigger.

Secondly, I listened to his entire perspective of things. He is almost correct but is still wrong in some key ways.

Ugly men should focus on the following (according to me, a woman):

• Not being fat/being in a generally decent shape. You don't have to be 10/10 body, but don't be dysgenic in every way. Pick a struggle.
• Learn to dress a bit. You don't have to "effortmax" but at least iron your shirts unlike Clavicular here. Do your hair nicely. Again, this is literally low effort and doesn't cost as much as you think.
• Get a good sense of humor. This is free and will save your life.
• Money and status are good. I'm not going to deny this, but not every woman cares about this. You will only find very specific calibers of women demand this after a certain age and most of them want to be "kept" as opposed to a true partner. If you want this arrangement, you are basically accepting you're only value is your income which is retarded unless you're also a terrible person which by all means, money maxxxx and buy a wifewhore. You're now Boogie2988 who has bought every woman he's been with. Congrats.
• $$$ wise...You will find women who care that you work hard before they care about what you make. Most women want you to have enough money to support a family if it ever happened even if they don't want one.
• Being the type of man women want to reproduce with. I say this meaning your values and belief systems.

The Truth About Ugly Men:

Attractive women will go for some UGLY ASS motherfuckers who think baseball caps with flip flops and tattered cargo shorts are acceptable to family dinners. They will also ride or die for these men when their friends rip on them. (You never see the reverse with men). This is because women don't actually care as much as you think they do about looks once they get to know you and what you're about. Yes, not as many women will approach you at first. Yes, you are at a disadvantage in this realm, no it is not over.
You can be ugly and be a good man.

So you're ugly but you're a decent person, This means dating online will be harder. You will have to be interesting over text and resist the urge to be creepy. This will already get you in.

There are plenty of men who are ugly and poor men (some even fat and autistic) who have other gifts that make them attractive to women. Find what you have to offer be it personality, cool hobbies/talents, humor, work, values, etc.

What Women Want vs What they SAY they Want:

Young women might SAY they want the 6ft 6 figures CEO chad, but just like incels, they have never in life dated this man so they don't know what that means. Trust me. It's like saying you want to be famous without realizing the negatives of it or even what their lifestyle entails.

Men who are in C level executive 6 figure+ office positions are usually chained to their jobs and not their woman. They have to sacrifice social and family time to work. They lack this balance because that's the life they chose. It is difficult for a family to endure this even if you have MONEY if you don't have mom/dad actively present. Time> Money as it's the thing we have the least of and can never earn back. Any woman who actually likes you would rather hang out with you as opposed to receiving a new hand bag. Women also will gladly take a thoughtful gift over an expensive one. Her favorite candy as a surprise shows more thoughtfulness than nondescript (item).

Cheating

Clav brought up infidelity. Women rarely cheat for sex alone. Women tend to cheat for emotional reasons usually rather than physical attraction. Again, if you give her respect and attention unless she is a giant piece of shit this is unlikely to happen. Everyone gets "tempted" but them not doing it is a matter of maturity, actively being engaged in your relationship, and the bond she feels to you.

But Women don't fawn over me and flock to me!

This happens to basically no man ever unless he's already well known. Nobody starts like this. Women are sexual selectors hence why you see men having to flock to women instead. Even in this instance, it is often quantity over quality. The flocking that happens is never always the most attractive, successful, kindest, and most quality candidates. You still have to weed through garbage. The grass is not always greener.

Women would never talk to Clav if they read his posts. He doesn't form bonds with women, he had sex with them while drugged out (gay). If these women are smart or experienced, they will immediately sniff out that he's a trash human being which inevitably makes him useless even with money and looks. It makes him ugly. They will ghost him or run as fast as they can. I suspect this is half of his issue with ghosting because girls or their besties are good at researching men they are talking to.


Tl;dr- personality/values > looks and "status" if you want a quality woman in your life.

I'm aware that this thread is about Clavicular and not me

Spoiler: Empathy posting

I legitimately feel bad for you for having low self esteem. Working on THAT will fix you more than looksmaxxing ever will. I'm glad you're feeling better and not blackpilled.

I implore you to stop taking steroids you're not prescribed because it will ruin your normal hormonal receptors and your emotions. You are deep frying your brain by cycling yourself like that. You might not care now, but I don't like young people ruining their lives. I highly suggest you read what I wrote assuming you're a straight male.

Slow and steady. Most people give up the true grind which is that progress and success are not linear nor are they quick. Part of the reward is long term payoff. It's difficult for youths to envision this especially those retarded socially by COVID who were chronically online and lost a year of socializing and education. You really had too much time to sit and look at the beast within. Idle mind is devil's plaything etc.

I'm assuming you're early 20's. Your prefrontal cortex isn't done developing yet so certain things may not occur to you yet that will later.

Not to derail too hard but if you need a rando to talk to you can dm me and I'll listen and give you my best adult advice.

I'm sure other Kiwis would agree with me that my biggest and most solid advice right now is to stop recreational steroids and STOP looking at that website (except to farm it to laugh at retards) because it will fuck you up long term even if you do tiny cycles. Clavicular has already signed his early death warrant if even half of his regimen is true.

I don't want others to follow his path.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

When I was a child, I destroyed something another kid had built.
My dad told me then that there are two types of people: those who create and those who destroy.

If you're staying and dishing info, fine. Good. Great. You're welcome to.
But Jesus titty fucking Christ drop the 80s movie villain dialog.

 

[Meiwaku]

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If you're staying and dishing info, fine. Good. Great. You're welcome to.
But Jesus titty fucking Christ drop the 80s movie villain dialog.

Early 20s male syndrome status: Terminal.

Anyways, the real Clavicular is not fat and I would not have sex with him.

 

[dick brain]

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[Mound Dweller]

He 100% has this thread bookmarked, the teef posting has finally gotten to him;

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It's strange that of all the things people have to say about him; the one he'll admit to feeling insecure about are the terrible terrible teefs, a shame this self awareness doesn't extend to the necessary IQ to understand why eating with retainer on = bad.
This stuff isn't cheap either I wonder how much of his grandma's (Thick. Solid. Tight) credit this'll eat up?

Looking forward to the status report Braden, don't forget to leave it in overnight or they'll just realign wrongerer.
Oh he's also (subtly) BBC poosting which is not a good sign for his future genderspecialness/AIDS test results;

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[Brap God]

Attractive women will go for some UGLY ASS motherfuckers who think baseball caps with flip flops and tattered cargo shorts are acceptable to family dinners. They will also ride or die for these men when their friends rip on them. (You never see the reverse with men). This is because women don't actually care as much as you think they do about looks once they get to know you and what you're about. Yes, not as many women will approach you at first. Yes, you are at a disadvantage in this realm, no it is not over.
You can be ugly and be a good man.

The real issue is that even if people think or say that they care about looks so they can attract a partner, I think the real truth is that most people are anxious about how the wider social group perceives them instead, especially important is the opinion of the same gender. That's why men tend to take their cues on how they should style themselves from other men and seek their approval, and the same goes for women. And that's how some men fall down the looksmaxxing pit and no amount of "women don't care for that shit that much" type advice will ever reach them. It's like trying to tell a woman she shouldn't care whether her eyelashes are on fleek because men don't pay attention.

 

[Hitchhiker]

He 100% has this thread bookmarked, the teef posting has finally gotten to him;
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It's strange that of all the things people have to say about him; the one he'll admit to feeling insecure about are the terrible terrible teefs, a shame this self awareness doesn't extend to the necessary IQ to understand why eating with retainer on = bad.
This stuff isn't cheap either I wonder how much of his grandma's (Thick. Solid. Tight) credit this'll eat up?
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Looking forward to the status report Braden, don't forget to leave it in overnight or they'll just realign wrongerer.
Oh he's also unironically BBC poosting which is not a good sign for his future genderspecialness;
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Why not get braces? The clear ones are barely noticable, and are covered by (his parents) insurance. Granted he'll look even more like an overgrown 15 year old, but it's better than paying thousands of dollars out of pocket.