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It wasn't the tax itself that we were rebelling against, you mouth breathing retard. What part of "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION" did you not understand? We were being taxed to hell and back without any representative say on the matter by a king who was half way around the world. My GOD, the education in this country has fallen off a fuckin' cliff.
Yep. It was a status thing. The Brits in 1770 saw us the same way they saw India.

@XYZpdq Jr. they’re called Belgians. I hope now everyone understands my revulsion

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https://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-county-attorney-wont-criminally-charge-tesla-vandal
they're letting that piece of shit who works for tim walz off with a slap on the wrist to "reduce the likelihood of repeat offenses"
guarantee that wouldn't happen if you were a trump admin official who keyed democrats cars
Is there a pathway to judicial reform with appeals on this? Can you challenge criminal charges on the basis they are not being fairly and evenly distributed? I worry because this is the kind of thing that eventually resulted in lynchings a few generations ago.
 
I support government owned and operated housing to give tenets leverage and to anchor the cost of housing and of course White pride worldwide.

Maybe you should ask all the people in Eastern Europe how well that worked out for them.

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In eastern Europe there wasn't an alternative to commie blocks because private development was illegal, even if there was there wasn't an economy to support it. I am not advocating for state owned housing for every single citizen that would be insane. I am advocating for enough housing supply to be a baseline standard for housing meaning that landlords can't raise rents to high because they will always have an alternative forcing them to compete on service and quality not desperation.


I m gonna chime in on this. Because I'm dealing with this first hand.

I inherited the house I grew up in, I dont live in it. I rent it out. I also own a "vintage" read 100 year old multi family.

But first I want to say that central goverment planning of the economy is a bad idea. It introduces signal/market noise that makes it hard to know what something is really worth. It also encourages what I call Fuck Fuck games. Where political appointments are handed out as payment/political favors.

I much more perfer regulatiosn thats prevent the exisitance of too big to fail companies and that banks and companies that play games and fuck around are allowed to find out.

Okay back to housing.

The state of California has a state wide rent control laws it caps rent increases to something called "local inflations plus 5% not to more that 10% and I can only do an increase once every 12 months"

This means that if I dont stay on pop of my tenants rent and jack it up every year I risk falling behind the market, and that shitty 100 year old multi family that has happened. one dude who is a good tenant is paying 45% less than his neighbors.

I know have an incentive to try and get rid of him, I wont because he s a good boy pays on time and never gives me shit.

The rules for single family homes are different I can decide I want to live in my house again and basically kick the people out. So if these people fall behind the market because it moves higher than thats going to happen.

I will now rant about the poor property owners/land lords.

I worked in property maintence for management companies for years. Hell after some health issues i became something of a supervisor for some land lords directly.

normally before clown world rent is cheaper than mortgage after all why pay some one elses note? well there are reasons for this, I had one family in my house that had to do a short sale and to their credit they lived in my place for 5 years and soon as they could they bought a place right up the street.

So people want to get rich in real estate what do they do they buy a rental they take out a loan, they then have no skills to screen tenants they get tenatns who dont pay and worse wreck the place. So now your stuck paying the bank, paying evicition costs whose real costs are the time it takes to go through the courts and I ve often told owners its best to take the 700 dollars your gonna pay to file and serve the eviction and just bribe the tenant to fuck off.

I have seen a bad tenant cost the owner over 10K and set them back over a year, worth of rent. I have seen this happen back to back. I ve told peolple who ask about this shit that

"if you dont know how to screen tenants and get a bad one you can recover, If you dont know what your doing and get two bad tenants back to back you will beg someone to take that property off your hands"

Seen that happen a few times now.

Okay to bring this back to my thesis. The states laws fuck everybody. If I m a greedy owner and raise the rent higher than the market rate my tenants should be able to say "oh fuck this there is a better deal just down the street and go take the better deal"

The rent control prevents that.

So yeah I would love for the state to basically build and run their own fucking housing rather than tell private owners what they can and cant do. Also the lack of housing supply comes from an over emphasis on signle family homes, muliti family of various sizes need to be built.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk
 
Fun fact those tariffs that the founders hated enough to rebel over were duties or tariffs. One could argue by supporting tariffs you are going more against the original vision of the founders then me who supports income tax,
Imagine having a revolution over degenerate need to consoom.

We deserve extinction.
 
Yep. It was a status thing. The Brits in 1770 saw us the same way they saw India.
The people's history of the United States covers this exact topic. Actual succession wasn't very popular at the time so the rich dudes used other popular issues like taxation disagreements to trick England into escalation so they could achieve their own goals.

In that sense Trump is doing the exact same thing agaisnt China by using the trade war to escilate to possible sanctions or real war.
 
The people's history of the United States covers this exact topic. Actual succession wasn't very popular at the time so the rich dudes used other popular issues like taxation disagreements to trick England into escalation so they could achieve their own goals.
"Tricked" isn't really the right word. The British genuinely made bad decisions by not at least entertaining the idea of American representation in Parliament and introducing the Coercive Acts. The 1774 Petition to the King was ignored and the Olive Branch Petition was dismissed. Multiple attempts at negotiation during the Revolutionary War were made such as the Staten Island Peace Conference and Carlisle Peace Commission but they failed. The UK had multiple opportunities to resolve the issue without a conflict but it didn't work out that way. The colonists did not reach their pro-independence position overnight.

Those who were wealthy and supported the Patriots had their reasons. Tea smugglers for example didn't want the British East India Company to have an effective monopoly as established in the Tea Act of 1773. Parliament introduced a number of taxes prior to the Revolution, for example there was the Stamp Act of 1765 which was not popular. It imposed a direct tax on the British colonies in America that required that many printed materials in the colonies be produced on stamped paper from London which included an embossed revenue stamp. That's an issue that could effect everyone economically, not just those with money. Furthermore, the Royal Proclamation of 1763 created tensions by not allowing settlers and land speculators in the 13 Colonies to expand beyond the west of a line drawn along the Appalachian Mountains.

While some wealthy individuals no doubt benefited from advocating for independence it is a simplification to say that the British were fooled into escalating the conflict. What happened was that their government made lots of mistakes that ultimately culminated in the USA breaking away from the United Kingdom.
 
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Only a retard would want a house standing for more than 70 years. Hell, basically every house from the 50s is packed with asbestos anyway. imagine what chink houses from the 90s were made of.
It's not about the house, it's about the land. My parents paid $3000/acre for their lot in the early 2000s, now the land alone is worth more than the 3000sq ft house they built on it. Each acre is now worth what they paid for the entire lot multiple times over
 
The people's history of the United States covers this exact topic. Actual succession wasn't very popular at the time so the rich dudes used other popular issues like taxation disagreements to trick England into escalation so they could achieve their own goals.

Howard Zinn was a Marxist who regularly left out important things so that he could frame every major event in American history as rich people tricking or oppressing poor people or jerks being racist to blacks and Indians for no reason. His book is trash and should not ever be cited by anyone.
 
Furthermore, the Royal Proclamation of 1763 created tensions by not allowing settlers and land speculators in the 13 Colonies to expand beyond the west of a line drawn along the Appalachian Mountains.
This alone pissed so many people off. The colonists were artificially stopped from expanding onto perfectly good land right as the population was growing. It was fucking bullshit. It also gave the Injuns a win, which after all the attacks and raids and wars, was not popular to put it mildly.
 
Howard Zinn was a Marxist who regularly left out important things so that he could frame every major event in American history as rich people tricking or oppressing poor people or jerks being racist to blacks and Indians for no reason. His book is trash and should not ever be cited by anyone.
If it's from the perspective of Blacks or American Indians I can see the argument for why the American Revolution was bad but if your a standard American White man either poor or rich in that period then siding with the Patriots has a fair amount of upsides. Besides the opportunity of social mobility they also had promises of land and cash.
 
Imagine having a revolution over degenerate need to consoom.

We deserve extinction.
Tbf they thought tea was magic* and prevented the multitude of waterborne diseases that killed everyone because they didn't know germs were a thing and it was actually just heating the water that made it safe, so a tax on tea was a tax on health, wellbeing, and life itself if you were particularly susceptible to those diseases

*Not literally magic, but that it had some particular property that rendered water potable
 
Tbf they thought tea was magic* and prevented the multitude of waterborne diseases that killed everyone because they didn't know germs were a thing and it was actually just heating the water that made it safe, so a tax on tea was a tax on health, wellbeing, and life itself if you were particularly susceptible to those diseases

*Not literally magic, but that it had some particular property that rendered water potable
Tea was also just culture. You were taxing their way of life in a way bongs in Britain weren't getting taxed. It wasn't fucking fair in the slightest.
 
Tbf they thought tea was magic* and prevented the multitude of waterborne diseases that killed everyone because they didn't know germs were a thing and it was actually just heating the water that made it safe, so a tax on tea was a tax on health, wellbeing, and life itself if you were particularly susceptible to those diseases

*Not literally magic, but that it had some particular property that rendered water potable
They also hit on the astringent properties of hops.

IPA’s were an 18th century effort to make an ale that could survive the age of sail voyage to India, pre Suez Canal, without refrigeration

If you say you like the taste, you’re a retard
 
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