The Elder Scrolls

[Halmaz]

I do wonder who exactly the target audience is. I guess people who used to play Oblivion and are nostalgic for it aren't an insignificant amount but I have a hard time imagining the kind of Skyrim baby or even younger player who refused to play Oblivion all these years yet would have if it looked like a shitty unreal port. In other words I don't think "massive Oblivion fan excited to play it for the first time" was ever a thing unlike with some titles.

I played through Oblivion multiple times as a teenager. I loved every second of it and I'm quite nostalgic about the game and that period of my life.
Yet, I feel oddly repulsed by this remake. It just doesn't feel right. It's kind of like when they re-release a book and the cover art is ass compared to the original, plus the size differs from all the other books you own. Sure, the content is more or less the same, but it feels out of place on the shelf.
I guess this is for younger players who refused to play Oblivion, because of the dated graphics.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Is it just me or are there shit tons of typos in the character creator and menus? It’s definitely cool to see oblivion with these graphics but between how horrendous the facial models still look and how sloppy it is I’m not really impressed. Also some glitches I didn’t even have in the original game. Haven’t even delivered the amulet yet but my map is littered with markers for oblivion gates and it seems to be random whether there is an actual gate or just a marker.

 

[LongDayAgain]

Playing on base PS5. I haven’t ventured anywhere except the Imperial City and Weynon Priory. Performance dips on horseback but seems okay otherwise. Runs really well in cities, overworld can dip.
What are your experiences?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

At least religious puritans have some form of moral advantage of being able to say "we don't like any degeneracy!" A majority of the anti-woke grifters and fanatics will push against woke shit (and rightfully so), but then advocate for coomer content in video games, and become seething mad when a dev reduces the cleavage window of the main character by 10% in the localization of their favorite anime porn game.

"Don't you dare put a woman with any female sex characteristics in your game, not all women have those and if you like looking at attractive body type 2 you're an incel."

"Also this game that has the guy being buttfucked by a druid shapeshifted into a literal bear (not a furry, a bear) could only be better if I synced the scene to my bluetooth enabled buttplug, here's how I did it." - Ana Valens


At some point these faggots got it in their head they're allowed to decide what kind of content I'm allowed to consume, and that's something we absolutely, desperately, need to slap them out of. Maybe banning LGBT content on the Disney channel or something might get it in their dumb fucking heads, I don't know.

 

[Kharash]

For me, I have a hard time imagining who would play Bethesda games to begin with. The first Bethesda game I played was Morrowind in 2005 when I was 12. At the time, I hadn't played anything like it so I was into it. When I got a 360 and played Oblivion, I felt it was worse than Morrowind. While I was still in my "not paying attention or caring too much about the quality of games" phase, I played Fallout 3 and New Vegas as well. Skyrim was the eye opener for me on how shit western devs are and what made me despise western games and that was 14 years ago. There's some shit japanese games too but I've enjoyed far more japanese games. That's for another thread though. I have never understood why people like Bethesda games so much. They're pretty restrictive and just because you can walk wherever doesn't really mean there's much to exactly do. It's all mostly busy work or extremely fucking boring with barebones garbage combat. The dialogue options got even worse every game past Morrowind and they all use the same engine they used for Morrowind. Man, I hate Bethesda

They like them for the same reason you liked Morrowind presumably. For me that first game was Oblivion, I had never played anything like it before, the open world and freedom you had was completely new to me. It was the first time I actually roleplayed as certain characters, as in I made them act a certain way with a specific class and skillset, only joined fitting guilds etc. And for many others that first experience was probably Skyrim. People also like the setting of Nirn.
Now obviously in hindsight comparing these games to actual CRPGs in terms of dialogue, story, or even character building it doesn't even compare but they made up for it with their own specific formula.
That said I have no idea why anyone would expect anything good from modern Bethesda as obviously things have been steadily getting worse since Morrowind and the cutoff point was probably Skyrim.

 

[The_Red_Man]

I archived it.

Edit: Replaced with v2.0.

RPGHQ Link (not sure how late I am, catching up on the Highlights)

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

I can not believe how devoid of standards and self respect gamers are. A trashy, downgrade remaster of a 20 year old game is sold for full price and retards trip over each other not only to buy it, but to defend it from all criticisms to speak of. Frankly, gamers deserve the industry they have created. Can't even get mad at the corpos when they just give the slop they know "people" crave. Looking forward to the inevitable Fallout 3 "remake" cash grab that makes this one look competent in comparison.

The tranny "body type" crap should have been an instant no buy for anyone, or an instant refund if you didn't know.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

I don't understand how anyone can look at this claim and claim its worse.
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Are you niggers high on something? You can critsize the remaster, but holy fuck, come up with proper critiques instead of ones that anyone with a set of functioning eyeballs can tell are full of shit.

I said this earlier but the original models for the beastmen were so fucking ugly in Oblivion. The remaster models might not look great but let's not pretend they looked good to begin with.

 

[Schizneed]

I can not believe how devoid of standards and self respect gamers are. A trashy, downgrade remaster of a 20 year old game is sold for full price and retards trip over each other not only to buy it, but to defend it from all criticisms to speak of. Frankly, gamers deserve the industry they have created. Can't even get mad at the corpos when they just give the slop they know "people" crave. Looking forward to the inevitable Fallout 3 "remake" cash grab that makes this one look competent in comparison.

The tranny "body type" crap should have been an instant no buy for anyone, or an instant refund if you didn't know.

90% of gaymers are literally porn addicted faggots.

 

[Crocodylus Acutus]

There was was some anger over them but the key difference is they are new games while the creators of this remaster deliberately went out of their way to change male and female from the original to body types.

Except every Souls game had traditional gender options until Elden Ring's body types. One of the main appeals of Palworld was that the devs didn't pander to gay shit when making their game, but they did body types instead of gender. Both of these are just as legitimate criticisms of their respective games as the Oblivion Remake changing it is. But no one considered those games to be unplayable woke garbage because of it, and the discussions surrounding them moved on from the topic quickly.

It SHOULD be criticized, but in this instance the loudest retards criticizing it are just that: retards. Despite the change having essentially no affect on actual gameplay, they're acting like the game is completely ruined because of it. We would laugh if a tranny was sperging this hard about some meaningless change in a game, but don't you dare criticize gaymers who act the same way, or else you must love trannies!!!

 

[>IMPLYING]

I love the idea of a powerful mage claiming to be him to gain a clout following, it's not often done enough where someone is cashing in on a legend on the villain side.

It's an interesting idea. The only other place I recall it being done is in Star Trek: TNG and when some Klingon scientists 'resurrected' (cloned) Kahless. Not really the 'villain side' in that instance, but it's the one that immediately came to mind. Maybe I just need to read more books?

One problem Bethesda has is how often they come close to writing something neat, but then land short of the mark because 'good enough' will do, or implementing certain things will take more effort and time than what's allocated for that aspect. You never know if it's them failing to meet their ambitions when they're forced to confront to the limitations of their ideas (time, implementation, etcetera), or worse, they did meet them and they're content with something feels otherwise half-assed.

Mannimarco becomes more of an actual threat at higher levels, but whoever was filling out his character sheet didn't give him enough stats to cast certain spells despite having them in his arsenal, or even cast certain spells more than just once, which is why he'll hit you with a powerful destruction spell and just rely on his dagger thereafter.

Also he does look a smidge better in the remaster. What does suck is that he had a hood in the original game's files he just wasn't wearing in-game. They could've made him wear it at least? But that's a nitpick. I think him being old as fuck could help reinforce the idea that this isn't the real Mannimarco.

 

[Mister Fister]

This is Clair obscure 33, it's possible to have UE5 characters that don't look like mutants but that requires effort.

 

[Halmaz]

I said this earlier but the original models for the beastmen were so fucking ugly in Oblivion. The remaster models might not look great but let's not pretend they looked good to begin with.

Yeah, they looked wonky in the original, but these new ones look like animal mascots. They should have made them look similar to Skyrim's beastfolk.

 

[Lady Adjani]

Oblivion's opening being better than Skyrim's is probably a big factor. In Oblivion you have control over your character from the get go after creating them, have to go through a short (5-15 minutes) sequence with the Emperor, but are more or less free to do whatever after emerging from the sewer into rather picturesque locale. Compare that to Skyrim's cart ride + railroaded opening + leaving the cave with Hadvar/Ralof (rather generic snowy forest) - and that's the opening if you don't care about dragons or shouts.. Otherwise you're taking upwards of half an hour or more just to unlock the main gimmick of the game ('shouts') and fighting dragons, which requires going through a whole other dungeon first. Skyrim is more persistent at pushing you versus Oblivion.

The intro is one of those things you'll do on your first playthrough and probably skip with a mod on subsequent runs.

I said this earlier but the original models for the beastmen were so fucking ugly in Oblivion. The remaster models might not look great but let's not pretend they looked good to begin with.

Khajit and argonians looked perfectly fine in Oblivion, the more "human-looking" races got the shorter end of the stick.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

Will you guys reccomend the remaster to a guy who never touched oblivion

Nah just play the old one, it's funnier. You can even get it as a DRM free gog installer on certain websites if you don't want to pay Bethesda for it.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I wonder how long folks will cling onto this trying to make major, game changing, mods before giving up thanks to Unreal. They more or less dropped Starfield pretty quickly.

 

[Foltest]

The intro is one of those things you'll do on your first playthrough and probably skip with a mod on subsequent runs.

Khajit and argonians looked perfectly fine in Oblivion, the more "human-looking" races got the shorter end of the stick.

you could count on your hand which NPC looked "normal" and you would have fingers left over.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Vilverin is better than Bleak Falls Barrow and certainly better than Embershard Mine.

I think if you're comparing 'dungeons' players are expected to go into during the main quest, I'd replace Vilverin with Kvatch and it's associated Oblivion gate, and Embershard Mine I'd replace with Arkngthand. Oblivion still wins over Skyrim in that case.

 

[Sissy]

I can not believe how devoid of standards and self respect gamers are. A trashy, downgrade remaster of a 20 year old game is sold for full price and retards trip over each other not only to buy it, but to defend it from all criticisms to speak of. Frankly, gamers deserve the industry they have created. Can't even get mad at the corpos when they just give the slop they know "people" crave. Looking forward to the inevitable Fallout 3 "remake" cash grab that makes this one look competent in comparison.

The tranny "body type" crap should have been an instant no buy for anyone, or an instant refund if you didn't know.

Sorry not everyone buys super hard into the culture war slop

 

[Tablet County]

Except every Souls game had traditional gender options until Elden Ring's body types. One of the main appeals of Palworld was that the devs didn't pander to gay shit when making their game, but they did body types instead of gender. Both of these are just as legitimate criticisms of their respective games as the Oblivion Remake changing it is. But no one considered those games to be unplayable woke garbage because of it, and the discussions surrounding them moved on from the topic quickly.

Nevermind the 50 dollar price tag, the fact that everyone looks like shriveled-up prune, the 120 gigabyte download, the inevitable addition of the CC and possible lootboxes, the processing effects, the feculent color-grading. No, numbered body types are the biggest and most signalboosted problem with the remaster.

It SHOULD be criticized, but in this instance the loudest retards criticizing it are just that: retards. Despite the change having essentially no affect on actual gameplay, they're acting like the game is completely ruined because of it. We would laugh if a tranny was sperging this hard about some meaningless change in a game, but don't you dare criticize gaymers who act the same way, or else you must love trannies!!!

Exactly, it's not that it's not a problem, it's just so minor compared to everything else that it makes you look unhinged to focus so hard on it. It's like everybody woke up one day and forgot what "picking your battles" means.
It's almost like there's a concerted effort to make people who object to troonery look deranged...

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This is Clair obscure 33, it's possible to have UE5 characters that don't look like mutants but that requires effort.

Hell, people have already started uploading their character saves onto the nexus, showing that characters in Oblivion Remastered can look non-inbred too.

Sorry not everyone buys super hard into the culture war slop