Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Can someone explain why pooners end up with that...I can't even describe it. The eyes. It's quite off-putting, almost like the uncanny valley of bad/creepy police sketches.
I think what you’re describing is the disconnect between a woman’s eyes and brow area, and placing them on a face that TRIES to appear male.
You brain has seen tens of thousands of female faces over the decades.
I used to think it was just things like makeup, extremely manicured eyebrows (and facial hair, sideburns, etc)...details women obsess over and men ignore, looking out of place on a "male" face. But that alone would probably just make them look like vain gay men, and it's even more unsettling than that.

So yeah, I think it's the brain recognizing female anatomy despite every trapping of 90s dood-bro decorations.
 
Shoutout to @Magic Pickle on your posts. I love your format of introductions of the troon/pooner with a funny story & then the photos. It’s like a build up to the horror show. Please don’t ever stop posting
You like me! :shit-eating:

So for this, I will subject you to more troon horrorshows. (Sorry, it's my love language.)

This tranny got a vaginoplasty so baffling that when I showed a fellow (accountless) Kiwi the photo, she said "Huh, I couldn't tell if that was a neovag or a meta at first!" So congrats on OP for passing in the sense of having an absolute question mark for genitalia, I guess?
lilistrega (vaginoplasty)
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6 days post op vulvoplasty concerns

I got vulvoplasty last Thursday and I'm seeing some weird discharge that just became noticable yesterday and I'm feeling the oozing. Things look angry. I'm not in extreme pain, it comes and goes like a sort of painful tickle and I don't have a fever but it seems weird. Swelling has gone down though as a result of ice packs so maybe I'm able to see where I wasn't before? My surgeon told me to use gauze in my underwear for now change it every time I pee, but even with washing with the Peri bottle every time I pee (which also is this normal procedure? I am going through a ton of soap cause she told me one part soap to five parts water) and after showering even I'm seeing discharge. It doesn't smell or anything but just wondering how normal it is.
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An update from a tranny I've posted before: olivier2266 gives us the misfortune of filming his dilation technique again - note his stupid porny facial expressions as he does it. Very Buffalo Bill of him to do this repeatedly! But trannies know that nobody wants to see this shit and will do things anyway, so what's a pickle to do but post it?
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I purchased the Vagiwell 6, which wasn't on my surgeon's schedule. I was able to use it successfully.
Am I doing the right thing?
The profoundly neon colors on this neovag remind me strongly of Meow Wolf, which is a waking nightmare if you've had the opportunity to attend it. Not as much of a waking nightmare as being a tranny, but still.
illyanya (Dr. Bradley D. Figler; scrotal graft vaginoplasty)
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Scrotal graft vaginoplasty help

So I got my scrotal graft vaginoplasty on march 4th. I have questions regarding healing and treatment. I have quite a bit of granulation and can't use silvadine due to an allergy to sulfa. So need alternative possibility to help heal. My surgeon recommended Vaseline but that traps moisture. Also I have white tissue that is under the hood just above the clit. It is movable but attached to an inner wall is it normal. If you don't like to comment you can pm me. Wish I had local trans friends that could support me.
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Back alley breasts: a pooner gets her dirty pillows de-fluffed and the psychopath that did it to her remains MIA when she asks about revisions.
Armadillooo666 (bilateral cosmetic mastectomy)
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Raised nipple / permanent swelling

Hi everyone! I had top surgery in December 2023 and had a hard time healing. My left side turned out okay, but my right nipple got infected and I have a decent amount of scar tissue. My right nipple has been obviously raised since the surgery, and I was told that the swelling would go down but it never did. I was wondering a few things.
  1. Has anyone else dealt with something like this? How did you resolve it?
  2. Do you think that a revision would help this or is it doomed?
My surgeon has been incredibly useless since a few weeks after the original surgery and I would NOT go back to him but I just want to know if anyone has any advice. I am about to get better health insurance and am wanting to figure things out.
Thank you!
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They say beauty knows no pain, but this is a pain that knows no beauty: a troon tries to get FFS and gets a nasty open wound right on his chin instead. He is also extremely fucking stupid, because if he's to be trusted about this doctor's bedside manner then he signed legal consent for a man who hates him to slice him up under anesthetic. If only we could all be as lucky as Dr. Liu!
Even-Editor1247 (Dr. Yuan Liu; facial feminization surgery)
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my chin! beware of dr.yuan liu of kaiser socal for FFS!


i had a “pointy chin” as i was going along recovering, which has now collapsed inward. i’m omw to an emergency appt rn because it’s quite literally fleshy and weeping skin tissue and i’m literally scared that this area of my face is dead. i’ll try and upload photos that are better quality with the flash on once i’m home, bc these photos r ass and it looks like a scab from afar but it is truly much much worse. my entire experience with dr liu has been so traumatic, refer to my previous posts for reference. i always passed before ffs and it feels like my life has been destroyed now. take it from me, better to go with your gut and risk not having ffs at all than to take the chance when the doctor is giving red flags and risk what i’m going through.
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DO NOT GO TO dr. yuan liu from kaiser socal FFS


my face looks awful, especially my nose. he made my nose look BIGGER and elongated from the face than my pre op nose! let me start by saying if you have kaiser and are in socal, RUN from dr liu! please don’t risk going thru what i’m going thru, if anything I would opt for dr.lee who is in LA.

Dr. lee has a great bedside manner and is informative asf on any questions you have, with no sour attitude (i had a lengthy 2nd consult with him and he was very kind). he also attested to dr. liu’s shitty bedside manner; although he tried reassuring me that dr liu isn’t a hack, he has a different communication style.

I got approved for ffs and bottom a few years ago, dr.liu was my assigned ffs surgeon and he also oversees breast augmentation in my area. it all started when my trans care coordinator let me know that i was denied for breast augmentation. I was confused by this and was told it was not medically necessary (i’m like a 32AA?!!) and i was given dr. lius cell to call and discuss this decision. when i called, he was very apprehensive at me for “even questioning the decision he made after it had already been made by him” and was dead set on it being not medically necessary. My mom asked if we could see him in person to determine this further and he was aggressive on the phone even with her, pissed that we were trying to change his decision. this seemed to already have set a bad precedent with him as he was so hostile, so I reached out to my trans care coordinator to refer me out to get a 2nd consult (i was told that dr liu was on the board of committee approval and that the committee deemed it not medically necessary).

this was all prior to my ffs consult. when it came time for my ffs consult, he had his nurse take a picture of my bare breasts and when i asked if these pictures were taken for breast augmentation consideration, he looked at me weirdly and replied “no!” in an aggressive manner. this situation didn’t seem right to me but i’m a people pleaser and i kept my mouth shut. he brought in a male colleague to sit in on the appt, he had a very intimidating demeanor so i was scared to say that i didn’t want anyone observing during my appt. the consult went badly, he had a completely hostile attitude from the get go for seemingly no reason, as if he had something against me personally. my mom came with me to this consult and she picked up on it as well. furthermore, he got even more annoyed when i specified what my concern areas were and asked what specific procedures did he have in mind. I was very pleasant the whole time and kept letting him know that I know he is the expert and so I would like to hear what his thoughts are. overall a super unproductive visit and i was placed on his waitlist for months. in the meantime my coordinator referred me to dr.ames for a 2nd ffs consult since i didn’t like dr. liu. ultimately i decided not to go with her.

this following year, dr. lius office reached out to me out of the blue with a quickly approaching FFS surgery date, which i switched to the end of the month due to the pre op appt being too last minute and me not even having proper communication with the surgeon on what would be done on my face. mind you i’m extremely young, i live stealth in society (i’m not sexually active before y’all start coming at me for being stealth, i just live my life as if i’m cis, it’s taken me a long journey to get here) so my face is very important! went to the pre op appt and he still had a rude attitude but was actually able to name procedures that he would be doing. I came with my list of questions and was very specific about my wants and needs; i wanted him to be as aggressive as possible Especially in my nose, and reassured him that i would be realistic since ik this is kaiser so they can’t just give me that aggressive doll look. he was offended by this for some reason (even tho i was saying that in response to him telling me to be realistic; i was assuring him that it was no worries and that i understand) he went on a tangent about how he is much better than the private network surgeons in beverly hills. i reassured him that i know he is an expert especially with his lengthy yale credentials and he seemed to be trying to find fault in any positivity i was aiming at him. his attitude made me scared to do ffs with him. a few days prior to the ffs pre op appt, my coordinator let me know i could also get another opinion from dr. lee. I wish i had known about his existence sooner as I would have gone straight to him! dr.liu saw that i had a phone consult with dr.lee scheduled and intimidated the living hell out of me into verbally telling him that i would be proceeding with him as my surgeon. very weird behavior, it sucks that in kaiser any of your doctors can see what appts u have and speak to u regarding them because it’s none of their business!!!

my mom was telling me that maybe it would be best to just do it ; with this political climate i might not be able to get my ffs if i took the chance of switching to dr.lee’s year long waitlist.
Dr.lee was kind during our consult and communicated with dr.liu on my behalf on what exactly i was wanting. he advised me to show inspo pictures on my surgery date as well to help visualize what i’m wanting. my inspo pics featured girls with similar ethnic features to mine in their pre op, so i had realistic inspo pics. not like i pulled a photo of kim k and said “gimme this!!” lol.

when it came around to my surgery date and i had a chance to talk to dr liu n show my pics, he was PISSED! like he was DISGUSTED that i was even talking to him! it was one of the rudest interactions ever and he made an even more disgusted facial expression at me as he walked away. this scared me so badly. but i was already there and hooked up to an IV so i was fucked!!

following the surgery, he was very rough at my post op appt, rude as ever, and didn’t even bother to show me how to put on my nose cast. he seemed to want to get away from me as quickly as possible. i SOBBED AND SOBBEDDD during that appt as soon as he left the room because of how ugly I looked, everyone in the building saw me crying. i hoped and hoped that maybe it was just swelling and i’d start looking better as time passes, but here we are! i’m ugly, my nose looks MORE MANLY than before and BIGGER AND LONGER!!! it’s awful, this is a nightmare. and i just wasted months of my life for this: to be treated like shit by my surgeon throughout the whole experience as well as receive a horrible result. he didn’t keep in mind anything that i discussed; he just went and did whatever he wanted to do, whatever he had in his mind is what he did. i could have been at work making the rest of the money i need for my out of pocket breast augmentation but no, i had to waste a portion of my life on this. just to look ugly. i implore you, don’t go to dr liu! i don’t know what he had against me, whether it be unconscious racism or that he didn’t like me challenging his opinion, but this was a horrible experience.

and ik how y’all like to discredit any girls that come on here with their negative kaiser experiences, and to that i say STFU! your ignorance is loud! just because you had a good experience with kaiser doesn’t mean that everyone does!
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They say beauty knows no pain, but this is a pain that knows no beauty: a troon tries to get FFS and gets a nasty open wound right on his chin instead. He is also extremely fucking stupid, because if he's to be trusted about this doctor's bedside manner then he signed legal consent for a man who hates him to slice him up under anesthetic. If only we could all be as lucky as Dr. Liu!
Even-Editor1247 (Dr. Yuan Liu; facial feminization surgery)
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I think it’ll be my headcanon that the good Dr. Liu disliked the troon (who keeps dragging his mom along?! Wtf?!) so much, that in the operating room he just went: “FUCK this freak! Imma give him a big ol’ Jewish porn producer snout! Disgusting pervert!”

This tranny got a vaginoplasty so baffling that when I showed a fellow (accountless) Kiwi the photo, she said "Huh, I couldn't tell if that was a neovag or a meta at first!" So congrats on OP for passing in the sense of having an absolute question mark for genitalia, I guess?
lilistrega (vaginoplasty)

Aww, you found my favorite kind of stinkditch results! Thank you fren!

My favorite kind is the one where it’s blatantly obvious what they did. You know, big ol’ ballsack just dangling there and a little penis head just peeking out above the canal they made, wondering wtf happened to the rest of it.

Just like this.

I can just imagine the comments this dude will get, when he lures a chaser home and takes off his pants.

“Oh! So THAT’S how they do it!”

So yeah, I think it's the brain recognizing female anatomy despite every trapping of 90s dood-bro decorations.
Yup. If you’ve never ran into a well passing troon IRL (And fortunately, that’s pretty normal if you’re in Europe), it’s SUCH A TRIP the first time it happens.

For me, I was just walking down the street, looking around but not really watching, when my brain suddenly went: “WTF?! Something ain’t right!”

I of course look around, and there he was… A middle aged troon in a dress, walking sorta like a woman and even wearing the kind of outfit you’d see on a middle aged woman.

But one look at the proportions and the manly legs told the whole story.

When I looked up, I also noticed other people looking around and in his direction.
 
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This tranny got a vaginoplasty so baffling that when I showed a fellow (accountless) Kiwi the photo, she said "Huh, I couldn't tell if that was a neovag or a meta at first!" So congrats on OP for passing in the sense of having an absolute question mark for genitalia, I guess?

Absolutely baffling. He’s so puffy he can’t even do the porn spread to show the hole, and it probably won’t be much better even if/when the swelling goes down. That… whatever emerging from the middle is truly disturbing. It looks like a tapeworm’s mouth. I keep waiting for it to expand and reveal fangs. On the upside, he is cushioned for extra comfort.

Genuine question: are there any funny Scientologists, or other seriously religious stand-up comics?

I suspect the courage needed in comedy to push the boundaries is in inverse relationship to dogmatism. Stand-up usually requires mining your life; if religion (or troonery or Palestine or whatever) is a large and serious part of it, then you instantly have a quandary. Do you risk mockery or blasphemy? Having said that, humour is subjective, some people don’t want edgy jokes, and there’s an actual Christian comedy circuit, so what the hell do I know?

As for Scientology, there are certainly Scientologist actors who have played comic roles successfully, but no stand-up comics come to mind. Scientology BTW has an express rule against “joking and degrading” when talking about it.
 
think there may something about being passionate about a dogma that kneecaps personal comedy, but I don't have examples to point at.
It’s ironic, but there’s no fun in fundamentalism
You know, big ol’ ballsack just dangling there and a little penis head just peeking out above the canal they made, wondering wtf happened to the rest of it.
I had this sudden image of the surgeon working with an enthusiastic dog under the table waiting for scraps.
 
I dont think this has been featured before, but warning… this is some HARDCORE SHIT! Actual medical horror, not just: “Teehee Fapcop! That’s just funny looking!”

Let’s begin with the lil pooner’s explanation:

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So basically: “Teehee! My rotdog surgery went horribly wrong! What experimental surgery should I have next? Teehee!”

Sympathy: LOST!

Anyways, let’s look at the pics, shall we?

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Ok,.. Hmm that’s a weird fucking color. I believe that is what they call “foreshadowing” in the business…

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Weird pic of her peehole looking like some kind of Chinese pastry. Weird but nothing out of the ordinary I suppose…

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Okaaay… Things are starting to look… Concerning…

Next… You sure you want to see this kiwifren? You could just go in the cute pets thread you know?

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BOOM! THATS THE MONEYSHOT!

Wtf happened here?!? Did it just fucking explode?!?

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Another angle. LUL! Imagine every time you look down, you see an exploded fucking rotdog.

A fellow pooner asks worried questions.
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“What could have happened?” Aren’t these surgeries all super successful?

I like the other lil’ dood in the comment right below who’s all “Oh yeah, my rotdog also exploded! Happens all the time!”

You’d think this be a warning, but I guess retarded chicks are going to do things that are retarded?

I had this sudden image of the surgeon working with an enthusiastic dog under the table waiting for scraps.
Wagging his tail like a good boy, lol!
 
Holy shit @Fapcop

I think you actually broke my mind with this one. Absolutely vile, but also surreal, because you don't expect THAT to be attached to a living, breathing human being. (I still think Lamprey Dick's "rotting underside reveal peekaboo" counts as viler, but that is just my very personal opinion.)
Surreal. I wish I could have seen the faces of my kiwi frens as they clicked THAT spoiler.

Just goes to show how brain broken these people are, that they can look down at their crotch, see a bloody mess straight out of a Ukraine-style drone bombing injury, and NOT take everything they’re doing and believing up to revision.

“My surgeon did an oopsie and my crotch exploded… Oh well!”
 
Surreal. I wish I could have seen the faces of my kiwi frens as they clicked THAT spoiler.

Just goes to show how brain broken these people are, that they can look down at their crotch, see a bloody mess straight out of a Ukraine-style drone bombing injury, and NOT take everything they’re doing and believing up to revision.

“My surgeon did an oopsie and my crotch exploded… Oh well!”
It looks like a piece of raw beef... they resected all the scar tissue but hell... the bent phallo duck might have been better.
"I have to choose between erectile device and UL" holy shit, choose neither!! Is this not bad enough lil pooner?!
 
It looks like a piece of raw beef... they resected all the scar tissue but hell... the bent phallo duck might have been better.
"I have to choose between erectile device and UL" holy shit, choose neither!! Is this not bad enough lil pooner?!
I know. She’s batshit insane.

How in the fuck does she intend to have sex with… That? What is even the point of an erectile device?!

And UT hook up? Sure hun, your rotdog just exploded… And you want to fuck with your urinary tract on top of that, a procedure that has the most complications in FTMs where over half of the “patients” experience some kind of issue.

“What could possibly go wrong?” Asked the pooner with the exploded crotch.

I usually have sympathy for these chicks. But not in this case. Got FAFO’ed and keeps asking for round 2.
 
Can someone explain why pooners end up with that...I can't even describe it. The eyes. It's quite off-putting, almost like the uncanny valley of bad/creepy police sketches.

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Women’s eye sockets are rounder, men’s are slightly squarer.

Also men have longer mid-faces (distance between the eyes and the mouth), giving the impression that the eyes are higher up on the face, and smaller.

You’re seeing large, round, feminine eyes in the female position on an otherwise male face.
 
I dont think this has been featured before, but warning… this is some HARDCORE SHIT! Actual medical horror, not just: “Teehee Fapcop! That’s just funny looking!”

Let’s begin with the lil pooner’s explanation:

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So basically: “Teehee! My rotdog surgery went horribly wrong! What experimental surgery should I have next? Teehee!”

Sympathy: LOST!

Anyways, let’s look at the pics, shall we?


Ok,.. Hmm that’s a weird fucking color. I believe that is what they call “foreshadowing” in the business…


Weird pic of her peehole looking like some kind of Chinese pastry. Weird but nothing out of the ordinary I suppose…


Okaaay… Things are starting to look… Concerning…

Next… You sure you want to see this kiwifren? You could just go in the cute pets thread you know?

BOOM! THATS THE MONEYSHOT!

Wtf happened here?!? Did it just fucking explode?!?


Another angle. LUL! Imagine every time you look down, you see an exploded fucking rotdog.

A fellow pooner asks worried questions.
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“What could have happened?” Aren’t these surgeries all super successful?

I like the other lil’ dood in the comment right below who’s all “Oh yeah, my rotdog also exploded! Happens all the time!”

You’d think this be a warning, but I guess retarded chicks are going to do things that are retarded?


Wagging his tail like a good boy, lol!
ABORT! ABORT THE MISSION YOU STUPID WOMAN.

No name and shame of the surgeon? Let me guess, she doesn't regret it and would do it all over again, this was just a 1 in 1,000,000 fluke that has nothing to do with everything about this surgery being an affront to science, medicine, and God himself. Funny how she doesn't say the line like the rest of the butchered rotdog girls always do. Could it be she maybe possibly does regret doing this just a teeny bit?

The stitching is fucked even by the low, low standards on display throughout this thread. Why did it start turning into a steamed bao bun before rotting off?

Have we done a roundup of worst amholes and rotdogs in this thread lately? If we do, this one deserves a prominent spot toward the top of the list. Fuck.

On a positive note her tit chop looks pretty good from what we can see. Flayed arm must be pretty gory given her slim frame. Sucks to be her, I guess.
 
This tranny got a vaginoplasty so baffling that when I showed a fellow (accountless) Kiwi the photo, she said "Huh, I couldn't tell if that was a neovag or a meta at first!" So congrats on OP for passing in the sense of having an absolute question mark for genitalia, I guess?
lilistrega (vaginoplasty)
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6 days post op vulvoplasty concerns

I got vulvoplasty last Thursday and I'm seeing some weird discharge that just became noticable yesterday and I'm feeling the oozing. Things look angry. I'm not in extreme pain, it comes and goes like a sort of painful tickle and I don't have a fever but it seems weird. Swelling has gone down though as a result of ice packs so maybe I'm able to see where I wasn't before? My surgeon told me to use gauze in my underwear for now change it every time I pee, but even with washing with the Peri bottle every time I pee (which also is this normal procedure? I am going through a ton of soap cause she told me one part soap to five parts water) and after showering even I'm seeing discharge. It doesn't smell or anything but just wondering how normal it is.
@Magic Pickle: Did you pick up on this? GAUZE in their underwear! Whatever happened to PADS? The kind made for women?
 
Now imagine how much it’ll suck to be her, once she’s swindled into going for the “UT hookup” and will have to deal with strictures, infections and fistulas.
To my inexperienced eye it looks like the bottom scarry stitched part was cut off the penis and they put a piece of medical cling film on it, and now they're considering doing the hot dog bun protocol... where they graft more skin on that bit and then eventually (maybe) bring both sides together to form a tube, or implant and then close... which might result in the implant working its way back out whatever the weakest point is in the ham roll.

There's probably a good phalloplasty protocol out there somewhere but it doesn't involve trying to enable "sexual function" or allow patients to use the neophallus as a funnel to direct urine. Aesthetics only IMO and probably better for real dudes who have maybe a stump of a peen to work with.
 
I dont think this has been featured before, but warning… this is some HARDCORE SHIT! Actual medical horror, not just: “Teehee Fapcop! That’s just funny looking!”

Let’s begin with the lil pooner’s explanation:

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So basically: “Teehee! My rotdog surgery went horribly wrong! What experimental surgery should I have next? Teehee!”

Sympathy: LOST!

Anyways, let’s look at the pics, shall we?


Ok,.. Hmm that’s a weird fucking color. I believe that is what they call “foreshadowing” in the business…


Weird pic of her peehole looking like some kind of Chinese pastry. Weird but nothing out of the ordinary I suppose…


Okaaay… Things are starting to look… Concerning…

Next… You sure you want to see this kiwifren? You could just go in the cute pets thread you know?

BOOM! THATS THE MONEYSHOT!

Wtf happened here?!? Did it just fucking explode?!?


Another angle. LUL! Imagine every time you look down, you see an exploded fucking rotdog.

A fellow pooner asks worried questions.
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“What could have happened?” Aren’t these surgeries all super successful?

I like the other lil’ dood in the comment right below who’s all “Oh yeah, my rotdog also exploded! Happens all the time!”

You’d think this be a warning, but I guess retarded chicks are going to do things that are retarded?


Wagging his tail like a good boy, lol!
Why is this legal again?
 
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