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The U.S. is ceding its global education and academic superiority to China.

This thread will say we must compete with China but they are also in favor of gutting higher education because they believe all students are Jews, Muslims or trans.

Just one of the many hypocritical and shortsighted musings from the Farm's NEETs and incels.
 
From what I've heard among prospective grad applicants we're basically set for the next cycle to be excruciatingly painful across the board. This hurts US students the most out of anyone, and only helps foreign grad students that usually just go to unfunded masters programs anyways.
While I agree that degreeflation is real this really doesn't do anything to help it. The replies so far are just "people with professional degrees are dumb actually" which might be true for some programs honestly but is kind of retarded to say wholesale
There was an oversaturation of Americans with degrees long before there was an oversaturation of foreign students. A huge number of people in the sciences get industry PhDs now because there are no positions in academia and, quite frankly, the academic gigs are shit - you do a fuckload of work for not a lot of pay or prestige. Getting a tenure-track position, even with a prestigious degree and sexy research, is almost impossible.

The issue is with academia itself, which cannot sustain the level of growth it saw over the past 20 years. It relied heavily upon federal dollars that are now gone. There used to be a chance that you'd sexify your research and be something other than an overworked assistant professor teaching introductory classes and never having time to publish your manuscript. Then the pedigreed people took all those slots and the only avenue for making anything other than shit pay was to get an administrative title, which is why a lot of people wanted to be DEI - not even because they believed it, but because it was a higher-paying administrative job. Now everyone's fucked and it's not the government's fault. Academia was never designed to be a money-making industry.
 
There is a massive oversaturation of degrees at every level in the US. BAs, MAs, and even PhDs and JDs are worthless because everyone has one now. The only degree worth a goddamn is an MD, since there is always a need for doctors.
Thats only because the AMA keeps it artificially low. There are lots of people who could become decent enough doctors and drive the price of medicine down.
 
From what I've heard among prospective grad applicants we're basically set for the next cycle to be excruciatingly painful across the board. This hurts US students the most out of anyone, and only helps foreign grad students that usually just go to unfunded masters programs anyways.
While I agree that degreeflation is real this really doesn't do anything to help it. The replies so far are just "people with professional degrees are dumb actually" which might be true for some programs honestly but is kind of retarded to say wholesale
I'm a degreed person myself, and almost everyone I share a degree with failed in what we were all preparing for. Maybe 5% of alumni are still working in our field. I thought many of them were stupid when I was in school. Later, they failed professionally, so I was basically right. This gave me a lot more confidence in my ability to say what works and what doesn't. I think in general, too many people go to college. It should be our smartest 20% of people. Instead it's our most privileged 80%.
 
Thats only because the AMA keeps it artificially low. There are lots of people who could become decent enough doctors and drive the price of medicine down.
I'm hearing that the biggest impediment for becoming a doctor these days is all the insurance and paperwork fuckery. Major hospital groups buy out a doctor's office and then dump patients onto doctors, trying to get as many patients seen as possible within a day so they can maximize profit. That's more paperwork on all the staff and leads to many doctors straight up leaving the profession, or they try opening their own private practice that does not take insurance. It also leads to medical mistakes and, obviously, burnout.

The AMA does advocate for policies to keep the number of doctors lower, but they cannot stop people from entering medical school or getting a job. Medical schools want students and hospitals want doctors. You're not wrong, but it's more complicated than "AMA says so and gets what it wants."
 
I'm a degreed person myself, and almost everyone I share a degree with failed in what we were all preparing for. Maybe 5% of alumni are still working in our field. I thought many of them were stupid when I was in school. Later, they failed professionally, so I was basically right. This gave me a lot more confidence in my ability to say what works and what doesn't. I think in general, too many people go to college. It should be our smartest 20% of people. Instead it's our most privileged 80%.
I'm a junior in college right now who was planning on applying to grad school programs next cycle and is basically receiving nothing but nihilism over this. I don't think funding cuts will address the fact we have very little merit within our college system, and if anything this will just discourage the smarter ones (who are also smarter with their money) from going to school and actually making an impact. College shouldn't just be for rich tards that can pay the sticker price, or Chinese/Indians that basically pay 100k+ for a student visa. I'dve hoped he'd discourage foreign students in return for favoring our own but it seems that he's just draining everything simultaneously.
fwiw, I'll graduate with about 10-12k in loans that my mom has offered to pay off for me so I'm not looking forward to debt, but just a gruesome job and career market. I'm better than some Redditors who are leaving undergrad with 160k in loans (why???)
I may try to pivot towards something more industry-based as Bravo said, but that'll depend on getting into a fellowship program or something of that sort. It's not like the professional job market will be a piece of cake come fall
 
absolutely killing me that people like Candace Owens are standing up for the far left "anti white" ivies because muh free speech when these places are still promoting far leftist ideals.
It pisses me off that they're only doing something about these Ivy League schools because their students started criticizing Jews. Any and all anti-White rhetoric was A-OK though.
 
Every one of us who attended a university since 2010 have had the same stories to tell.

-Your time at college left you wanting more, you spend loads of time in high school level courses not related to your field and at least 3 or 4 gen-eds that amount to a fat woman telling you her political views. This can be worked into geneds categorized as sociology, science, history, even spanish.
-You and most of your friends consider the degree not worth the money or time, a study just came out saying 50% of gen z consider their degree useless and that's obviously concentrated among tard majors.
-LOADS of funding given to "outreach programs" and various things that just amount to letting a crybaby throw some event.

There is an enormous amount of fat that needs to be cut out of universities, and it will never be cut if there's a constant feeding tube being given to them.

Cut all the useless majors, make admissions harder, tell athletes to go fuck themselves, cut anything that does not dramatically improve a students ability to create great things for society.
 
absolutely killing me that people like Candace Owens are standing up for the far left "anti white" ivies because muh free speech when these places are still promoting far leftist ideals.
it is fucking retarded that it takes it affecting the jews for the faggots in government to actually do shit in regards to the anti-American, blatantly illegal and discriminatory practices of universities receiving federal tax dollars but if that's what it takes to Fuck these institutions into the dirt I'm all for it.

the problem the jew have is they've quickly made it so they have no friends on either side of the aisle.

they thought the best way to live in homogonous white countries without being singled out was to make them all multicultural hellholes with no morality so a bunch of Jewish NGOs have been facilitating the mass immigration of 3rd worlders (who hate the jews as much as white people BTW) into every western country and have used the institutions, media and porn to demoralize and denigrate them which has lost them basically every right wing person under 40.

only they didn't stop to think about the consequences of this. Progressivism is progressive, it doesn't stop and now they can't control it and the liberal ideology they used against the white societies is being used against Israel by the sand niggers they brought in and the cucks they brainwashed. the jews are colonial, they are nationalistic for Israel, they are proud of their culture and they want to see their race survive which is what they've been telling everyone evil nazis were for 80 years so they've lost the white leftists and the brownoids on the Left (Muslims, pajeets and niggers) that the jews used as a bioweapon against the whites hated them anyway.

the jews are in for a bad time coming up very soon if they don't do something. their only defenders are white boomers, when they don't have power anymore there's not gonna be anyone left to come to their aid.
 
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I'm a junior in college right now who was planning on applying to grad school programs next cycle and is basically receiving nothing but nihilism over this.
I would not worry just yet, friend. Academia wears its emotions on its sleeve and what you are seeing is the industry collectively flailing about Trump. That's literally fucking it. You should still be applying early and you are doing the right thing, but I think you will see less weirdness by the fall semester. By spring semester next year, they will get their heads out of their asses.
I may try to pivot towards something more industry-based as Bravo said, but that'll depend on getting into a fellowship program or something of that sort. It's not like the professional job market will be a piece of cake come fall
I do not know what your major is, your school, etc., but if you can turn your degree into an industry job, I would go that route. Ask your program about internships and co-ops (never do unpaid work) and, if you do work an internship or whatever, be social and make connections because those are worth more than gold. If your college is worth a damn, it probably has a career development center that can help you out. Also speak with your undergrad advisor about your career options.

If you want to go academic, then so be it, but prepare to get fucked hardcore. It's a big ocean and you are a small fish that will get eaten by sharks if you don't have your wits about you. You will be used and abused far worse than private industry, and people care even less in academia about your success, happiness, or mental health. They expect you to burn out, you will be mocked by senior professors if you complain, and you will be declared "not a serious scholar" if you do.
 
Every one of us who attended a university since 2010 have had the same stories to tell.

-Your time at college left you wanting more, you spend loads of time in high school level courses not related to your field and at least 3 or 4 gen-eds that amount to a fat woman telling you her political views. This can be worked into geneds categorized as sociology, science, history, even spanish.
-You and most of your friends consider the degree not worth the money or time, a study just came out saying 50% of gen z consider their degree useless and that's obviously concentrated among tard majors.
-LOADS of funding given to "outreach programs" and various things that just amount to letting a crybaby throw some event.

There is an enormous amount of fat that needs to be cut out of universities, and it will never be cut if there's a constant feeding tube being given to them.

Cut all the useless majors, make admissions harder, tell athletes to go fuck themselves, cut anything that does not dramatically improve a students ability to create great things for society.
is media production a "useless major?" and I disagree on the athletes part, for what it's worth they bring in loads more revenue than most other things
 
bunch of Jewish NGOs have been facilitating the the mass immigration of 3rd worlders
Those NGOs are mostly Catholic

have used the institutions, media and porn to demoralize
Any critical look that doesn't come in with an agenda shows this is false. Pretending all the problems originate with a specific race is stupid and shows an inability to understand nuance

It pisses me off that they're only doing something about these Ivy League schools because their students started criticizing Jews. Any and all anti-White rhetoric was A-OK though.
Blatantly untrue. Trump reformed title 9 in 2019, issued an executive order protecting free speech on campus or else funding would be withdrawn. He also imposed a tax on schools with large endowments and increased surveillance of Chinese students.

There's a direct line between his executive order in 2019 and his actions today
 
I've never had any direct experience with them but every time i've had the explained to me by leftists and such this is all I can think about.
A union makes sense in a healthy manufacturing economy where you know for a fact the company is taking in a hefty margin. They have not made sense in most cases, these past few decades while factories have been fighting for their lives.

The new fight is to claw shit back from the multinational mega conglomerates

A union will never accomplish a fucking thing as long as production can shift to a sister company in a country that oppresses workers harder. Like from China to Vietnam with Foxconn, or to India as of today.. though Vietnam already had a big factory..

But it’s like, privately owned family run factories are the places I learned to look. They might sell out or fall victim to a hostile takeover type of situation, and then you’ll be back working for a conglomerate, but they take care of their people in the meanwhile and have a lot of 10, 20, 30 year guys.

If a factory has people in it that have stayed for decades, it can’t be that bad.
 
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Yeah can we get back to retards constantly replying to bad bait from John Badman, mold and other obnoxious faggots?
mold has perfectly reasonable opinions that a normal person would have, especially if they use their time on hobbies and family instead of being turbo autistic about politics. just because you don’t like her opinions doesn’t mean they’re bait

that is not true of John Badman. people should stop giving him attention

From what I've heard among prospective grad applicants we're basically set for the next cycle to be excruciatingly painful across the board.
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I'm hearing that the biggest impediment for becoming a doctor these days is all the insurance and paperwork fuckery. Major hospital groups buy out a doctor's office and then dump patients onto doctors, trying to get as many patients seen as possible within a day so they can maximize profit. That's more paperwork on all the staff and leads to many doctors straight up leaving the profession, or they try opening their own private practice that does not take insurance. It also leads to medical mistakes and, obviously, burnout.

The AMA does advocate for policies to keep the number of doctors lower, but they cannot stop people from entering medical school or getting a job. Medical schools want students and hospitals want doctors. You're not wrong, but it's more complicated than "AMA says so and gets what it wants."
from what I understand basically every single group in the medical industry is bloodthirsty cutthroat bastard because everybody else is and if you're not just as bastard you'll go from "fucked" to "turbofucked and bankrupt" instantly
 
The U.S. is ceding its global education and academic superiority to China.
Haha ok
You can have the globohomo space aids, even though you’re already commies and don’t need it
This thread will say we must compete with China but they are also in favor of gutting higher education because they believe all students are Jews, Muslims or trans.
Who said that? Compete? No, we’re just not going to make you rich anymore, and your country will collapse before it converts into one with a high living standard or like, non-tofu dreg high rises

You’re one dam away from half the earthly population of Hans being swept away, and it creates its own earthquakes, lol.

What are you supposed to be able to accomplish with all that education when nobody is allowed to do anything the CCP doesn’t tell them to?
Just one of the many hypocritical and shortsighted musings from the Farm's NEETs and incels.
You forgot the part about “with normal sized penises”
 
I disagree on the athletes part, for what it's worth they bring in loads more revenue than most other things

I'm all for college athletes, at least up to the point where they are deliberately graded far easier, are all given first dibs on a cherry-picked list of piss easy classes, or have outright academic fraud committed by signing them up for bullshit classes they are given high grades for that never even took place. I think part of the reason behind the proliferation of total bullshit majors was partially a pretext to keep athletes with zero academic inclinations enrolled in good standing.
 
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