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It's Social Darwinism, there will always be infighting between humans as social animals they may be, they'll compete with each other for supremacy and total domination.
The same principles apply to Leftism and Christianity in general as well, if the Early Church simply vibed with groups like Valentinians and Sethians (as well generally any early heretical group you could think of) instead of trying to dominate over and exterminate them., Christianity would had never survived.
Yes, but picking your battles is important. Bolsheviks waited till they consolidated power before ripping each other’s throats out. During the civil war they even allied anarchists.
NSDAP had left wing they kept around for a while
I am not particularly knowledgeable on Spanish civil war but afaik republican disunity and nationalist uniting various factions was one of the reason later won
Not saying it’s a panacea and everyone right of center, from Shapiro to Trump to Mason should join hands in united anti-left front, factionalism can be just as dangerous. But there is a golden middle between “amorphous house of cards that stands for everything and therefore nothing” and “purity spiral”
Looking at l Russian civil war, why wide tent worked was because Lenin was a charismatic and almost unquestionable leader. American right doesn’t really have that-closest is Trump, but
A) he’s not in the same ballpark as Lenin, leader wise
B) he doesn’t particularly want to court the extremist
Could someone appear? Theoretically yes, but he’ll have to be an exceptional man, be able to cut parts of coalition off and there probably needs to be an event to galvanise the right and serve as a rallying point. If Trump didn’t turn his head
I do not endorse political assassinations
then maybe one would be found. Of maybe right eats itself like an ouroboros, neocon remnants get absorbed into leftist forces and end of history comes to US
 
All of this shit made me think, is PF worthy of a thread?
The last few pages have been all about nahtzees and not autistic map painting so I'd say so.
There's certainly enough lolworthy content and tiny tom seems an interesting fellow (roblox? lmao). There is however already a thread in CW but it largely revolves around AWD/O9A satanism shenanigans/various islamic content stuff as opposed to good old herl hortlery. There is also the William Luther Pierce thread in the history section which I also recommend, largely about the "man" himself but also good stuff on various other RIPs like "fat bastard" Harold Covington.
 
Im hoping to see a Ba'athist Path in TFR. I like the Iraq mission tree in Millenium Dawn, but it kinda just feels empty when you realize the diplomacy stuff is extremely small.
Obvious answer would be Syrian Civil War content but that is admittedly low priority given how plain that conflict is compared to the wars with the big three (USA, RF, PRC,) and how tiny Syria is as a country tag in comparison. Ba'athist Syria, HTS, SNA, and Rojava all seem very 'tame' when we compare them to PF, AWD, APLA, and Cascadia for comparison.

However, an Assad and Gaddafi Jr. unification would be a pretty fun path idea.

And the ideology switch from Jolani/HTS going from Salafist to 'Zelensky LARP' is also going to be funny, but I think IRL we need to see more of the new Syrian regime before any implementation of Jolani/HTS right now since they flipflop constantly and I can't really seem to find any news that isn't biased one way or another. NAFOfags claim he's a wholesome 100 reformed provisional leader while Assad stans say he's discount ISIS who cucks to Israel and Turkroaches claim he dindunuffin but also isn't a cuck to Israel. Hard to get an opinion on the guy.

Though I also wish for Islamic Republic of Iran content since having the IRGC operating around the world like Werbell's Mercenaries as a mechanic would be pretty fun.

Hezbollah-in-Hejaz is already in-game so that would make for some pretty cool IRGC-glownigger kino alongside already having puppeted Iraq at this point plus the Houthis and the OG Hezbollah. Hezbollah-in-America could be a fun idea since Dearborn, Michigan has a giant Shia Mosque (biggest Mosque in USA, iirc) so there's already a case for that. Also actually making the Axis of Resistance into a real faction.
 
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Impossible, they lack revolutionary discipline mass appeal!

Ehrm akshually if you read Acts and Paul's letters, you'd know that there was already discussion of what constituted proper orthodoxy and what was heresy. Peter actually advocated for the Judaizers at one point, but was convinced to abandon that particular heresy.
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the Bolsheivks were ripping each other throats off before they even took power, Lenin is like the ultimate purity spiraller of Communism, my dude. Take a fun read at how much he shit-talked Menscheiks and Social Democrats before 1917 and after.
i'm also sure that they waged war against the Ukrainian Anarchists soon as their time as useful idiots was up.
This is pretty important distinction, are they yours political equals, or rather useful idiots?
And regarding the Spanish Civil War, Franco didn't "unite" out of kindness as you would think, his scheme to forcibly unite Falangists and Carlists into some sort of abominable syncretism removed of anything unique and autonomous which only served to neuter them useless and docile, just so they are made to submit to his regime, that didn't even last half a century because everything that the Falangists and Carlists stood for were all fucked over in the end after Franco made his successor the Prince whom had secret intentions to unravel anything from the Franco regime.
The tale of Franco is not something you want to repeat, so listen to Uncle Adolf on what he has to say about big tents and ideological coalitions:
It must never be forgotten that nothing truly great in the world has ever been achieved by an alliance. It has always been through the triumph of the individual. The very origin of joint forces carries with it the germ of its own later decay. Great intellectual revolutions that shake up the world are only conceivable and only possible when they are monumental struggles by
individuals and never when they are enterprises of coalitions.
Above all, the new race-based state will never be created by the compromising indecisiveness of a racialist worker-coalition, but only by the iron will of a single movement that has fought its way through all that opposed it.
And there is nothing wrong with purity spiraling, isn't Kiwi Farms purity spiraling Lolicons and other pedophiles out? Is Purity Spiral not the definition of excluding certain people?
Hilter purity spiralled out German Monarchists, Rockwell against the John Birch Society, the whole point of Ironmarch was purity spiralling.
The last few pages have been all about nahtzees and not autistic map painting so I'd say so.
There's certainly enough lolworthy content and tiny tom seems an interesting fellow (roblox? lmao). There is however already a thread in CW but it largely revolves around AWD/O9A satanism shenanigans/various islamic content stuff as opposed to good old herl hortlery. There is also the William Luther Pierce thread in the history section which I also recommend, largely about the "man" himself but also good stuff on various other RIPs like "fat bastard" Harold Covington.
Thomas also had his goons infiltrate 4chan /pol/ as jannies so they can snuff out any criticism of them but I think they got kicked out by Hiro if they are not still in of course.
EDIT: Technically da nahtzees are TFR content, and so this is just like my heckinero map painting mod!!!
 
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The tale of Franco is not something you want to repeat, so listen to Uncle Adolf on what he has to say about big tents and ideological coalitions:
Hitler was sort of a compromise candidate in his own right. Many Germans considered the KPD a greater evil, and Hitler promised to get rid of them. The democratic parties, minus the SPD, basically rolled over for him as well.

Speaking of Communists, Stalin position himself as the moderate between the bolshevik left and right while also ingratiating himself with Lenin and collecting favors.

I suppose it's all a combination of force and compromise at the end of the day. You could say the same thing about the American revolution. Patriot factions compromised with each other, but forced out or suppressed loyalists.
 
Hitler was sort of a compromise candidate in his own right. Many Germans considered the KPD a greater evil, and Hitler promised to get rid of them. The democratic parties, minus the SPD, basically rolled over for him as well.

Speaking of Communists, Stalin position himself as the moderate between the bolshevik left and right while also ingratiating himself with Lenin and collecting favors.

I suppose it's all a combination of force and compromise at the end of the day. You could say the same thing about the American revolution. Patriot factions compromised with each other, but forced out or suppressed loyalists.
You could attribute this to their stronger and determining characters, think of them as gravitational sources with people orbiting them over, like asteroids and moons orbiting the planet.
 
the Bolsheivks were ripping each other throats off before they even took power, Lenin is like the ultimate purity spiraller of Communism, my dude. Take a fun read at how much he shit-talked Menscheiks and Social Democrats before 1917 and after.
i'm also sure that they waged war against the Ukrainian Anarchists soon as their time as useful idiots was up.
This is pretty important distinction, are they yours political equals, or rather useful idiots?
And regarding the Spanish Civil War, Franco didn't "unite" out of kindness as you would think, his scheme to forcibly unite Falangists and Carlists into some sort of abominable syncretism removed of anything unique and autonomous which only served to neuter them useless and docile, just so they are made to submit to his regime, that didn't even last half a century because everything that the Falangists and Carlists stood for were all fucked over in the end after Franco made his successor the Prince whom had secret intentions to unravel anything from the Franco regime.
Lenin didn't consider Menshiviks and SocDems allies, that's not purity spiral, that's keeping movement focused
Yes, but he waited until they stopped being useful idots. Well, they didn't stop being idiots, but they became useless
>unite out of kindness
No shit?
Yes, he removed their uniqueness to prevent teh system from ripping itself apart
he tale of Franco is not something you want to repeat, so listen to Uncle Adolf on what he has to say about big tents and ideological coalitions:
Adolf was more then willing to use coalitions and ditch them when needed
And there is nothing wrong with purity spiraling, isn't Kiwi Farms purity spiraling Lolicons and other pedophiles out? Is Purity Spiral not the definition of excluding certain people?
That would be purity spiraling if lolicons were a part of kiwifarms.
Purity spiraling typically means increasingly focusing beliefs to only one acceptable
I mentioned before that keeping coalition focused, and I'll say it again, yes, it's needed. But again, there is a limit
Reds attacked mensheviks because he considered them to be a detriment to the movement. However, Stalin and Trotsky didn't sperg out much at each other before the war was won.
In NSDAP Night of the Long Knives happened after Hitler seized power
If he acted like alt right acts in US he wouldn't get to Beer putsch because Goebells, Rohm and Himmler split off and run three different parties with five members and a dog, calling each other feds, faggots and larpers
 
That was an trolling group formed by some ex-PF/PF insider people who were pretty disappointed by the direction of the things that were going in Patriot Front, they wanted to have direct elections so corrupt leaders were voted out, but of course Tommy wouldn't want that. So here is the group:
https://t.me/TRAPF2
TRA-PF is dead and BTC fucking killed them. BTC (Ban This Channel, the terrorgram leader) joined them and magically afterwards they stopped banning O9A/COM faggots from their chats. He also attempted to push the TRA-PF members to go after InJekt Division.

All of this shit made me think, is PF worthy of a thread?
They deserve a thread, Patriot Front was just ordered to pay 2.8 million dollars to some nigger and two former members were also 764 members (with one being charged with possession of CSAM and the other was a Network Director). This all happened this year. Also the funny shit that was leaked in the Rocket chat leaks was hilarious too. Not even mentioning Jared M. Boyce.
 
There already is albeit without a Tree, The Iraqi Civil war can see the Ba'athists Return to Power, The Leader can vary but i remember seeing Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri as one of the Possible Leaders. But yeah, i do hope we see a bit of Middle Eastern Content in the future.
admittedly, I havent played much TFR or explored it much. The missions trees seem so small in countries, I assume they open up later down the line? Atleast for the ones that have content i mean.
 
It's Social Darwinism
No, it's egoism and vanity. Most people in politics were theater kids, and political groups do not usually claim to be the sole path to salvation and eternal life.

But, again, what else can you expect from people who want to ape the aesthetics of a boogeyman without actually being one.
 
This thread recently has been 1/4 TNO and 3/4 far right drama (not that I'm complaining ofc it's great stuff)

As well the fact that Thomas tried to force a guy to fucking miss out the birth of his own child over some retarded march.
There's also the most homoerotic pat-down you will ever see too.
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Seriously, read the articles, it's WILD.
Say what you will about PF but no other far right group produces their own softcore gay pornography.

Also is it true that Tommy straight up killed a guy by making him speed through red lights as part of some initation ritual ?
 
Chudosphere community thread would go so fucking hard. PF is nothing more than a lingering relic of the 2017 UTR era cult of personality orgs and it needs to GO AWAY ASAP.

Also is it true that Tommy straight up killed a guy by making him speed through red lights as part of some initation ritual ?
No, Thomas and co. were coming home after a littering "campaign" (flyering/stickering) and forced the driver to keep driving even though he had already fallen asleep multiple times at the wheel leading up to the crash. Leadership swept the whole thing under the rug, of course; you were warned privately in the rocketchat if you questioned the narrative so people shut up quick.
The only kindness shown to the grieving family of the driver was a couple big flower bouquets and some money sent by a couple of dudes unofficially, one of which was my buddy who was quickly removed from PF after questioning tommy publicly in front of the org why he were so hesitant to support the family.

Tiny tom is responsible for thousands of wasted dollars and man-hours, yet he'll never acknowledge it because nothing can besmirch his manicured lily-white image. Just one more bulk purchase of stickers to save the White race guys!! Fuck Thomas Rousseau.
 
Obvious answer would be Syrian Civil War content but that is admittedly low priority given how plain that conflict is compared to the wars with the big three (USA, RF, PRC,) and how tiny Syria is as a country tag in comparison. Ba'athist Syria, HTS, SNA, and Rojava all seem very 'tame' when we compare them to PF, AWD, APLA, and Cascadia for comparison.

However, an Assad and Gaddafi Jr. unification would be a pretty fun path idea.

And the ideology switch from Jolani/HTS going from Salafist to 'Zelensky LARP' is also going to be funny, but I think IRL we need to see more of the new Syrian regime before any implementation of Jolani/HTS right now since they flipflop constantly and I can't really seem to find any news that isn't biased one way or another. NAFOfags claim he's a wholesome 100 reformed provisional leader while Assad stans say he's discount ISIS who cucks to Israel and Turkroaches claim he dindunuffin but also isn't a cuck to Israel. Hard to get an opinion on the guy.

Though I also wish for Islamic Republic of Iran content since having the IRGC operating around the world like Werbell's Mercenaries as a mechanic would be pretty fun.

Hezbollah-in-Hejaz is already in-game so that would make for some pretty cool IRGC-glownigger kino alongside already having puppeted Iraq at this point plus the Houthis and the OG Hezbollah. Hezbollah-in-America could be a fun idea since Dearborn, Michigan has a giant Shia Mosque (biggest Mosque in USA, iirc) so there's already a case for that. Also actually making the Axis of Resistance into a real faction.
Iran has some rudimentary and unlocalized mechanics for fighting Covid and the invasion of Iraq.
 
This is arguing over semantics now. Purity spiral is used as a pejorative term by X people whining about not being included in Y circle over X belief/worldview.
Lenin and Menshiviks believed in the same end-goal, the difference was what methods they used.
And the Spanish system did crap itself... just not with a bang but a whimper instead. Franco made stupid mistakes, yet the biggest one was his choice of successor, you and me both know we would get in a time travel machine and warn him on Juan Carlos I.
And they're already here If KF is to be a inclusive big-tent forum, you just don't see them openly admitting themselves here because the most prevailing and socially acceptable tenet here which is shared by all people is that pedos must go behind bars or to the grave, and most of them certainly don't have the balls to sign up and start arguing themselves against anyone here.

And my nigga, he was NOT for coalitions. How was it a coalition when the Nazis pretty much said "yeah fuck off we rule now" to their "coalition partners"?
Why? Because he devoted entire chapters on why this is a bad idea.
The future of a movement depends on the devotion, or more correctly, the intolerance for other beliefs that its followers exhibit in defense of it as the only true cause. They must be convinced and enforce the belief that their own cause, as opposed to other similar causes, is the only just cause. It is a huge mistake to believe that the strength of a movement can be increased by uniting with another similar movement. Growth by merger means an immediate increase in numbers which appears to outside observers that the organization has increased in power and resources. In truth, the organization has simply absorbed germs which will be a source of inner weakness and this will cause suffering later on. No matter what anyone says about the similarity of two movements, such closeness never really exists. If they were truly so similar, there would be only one movement and not two. It doesn’t matter where the differences are. Even if the difference is in the inconsistent abilities of the leadership alone, then we have found the difference.
The natural law of all development never accepts the joining of two unequal beings. True joining only occurs when the stronger gains victory over the weaker. When this natural selection happens, the strength and energy of the victor is increased by the struggle itself. Uniting two similar political party structures may produce momentary advantages, but in the long run, any success gained in this way will cause inner weaknesses to appear later. The greatness of a movement is only guaranteed by the unhampered development of its inner strength, the protection of that strength, and the constant increase of that strength until it achieves final victory over all rivals. More than that, we may say that a movement’s strength and its right to exist increases only when it recognizes that adherence to the principle that struggle is necessary for growth and that it will only reach the peak of its strength when complete victory is finally achieved. The movement can never attempt to accomplish this victory through instant or short term gains, but only through perseverance and absolute intolerance of any opposition. Only in this way will the movement enjoy a long stretch of growth.
Movements which have expanded from the union of similar organizations, where each made compromises to achieve the joining, are like plants grown in a hot-house. They shoot up quickly, but they lack internal strength and are not substantial enough to stand the test of time or to resist violent storms. The greatness of any powerful organization, which embodies an idea in this world, depends on the absolutely religious fanaticism with which it establishes itself when compared to others. It must be fanatically convinced that it is right and just, and it must be absolutely intolerant of any idea or organization that is counter to its own teaching. If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it.

No, it's egoism and vanity. Most people in politics were theater kids, and political groups do not usually claim to be the sole path to salvation and eternal life.
But, again, what else can you expect from people who want to ape the aesthetics of a boogeyman without actually being one.
Political groups operating in your everyday politics sure, but Nazism is the exception to that rule because it extends beyond mere politics. Hitler did imply to be sole path to 'salvation and eternal life'
And these are Hitler's words, man, not mine. Straight from the Boogeyman's mouth.
The moment the plan’s creator attempts to consider so-called “convenience” and “reality” instead of absolute truth, his work will no longer be a star seeking humanity and will become
nothing more than an everyday procedure.
Man must never be so misguided that he believes he has ascended to the position of lord and master over Nature. The conceit of half-education has made men think this illusion is possible. He must understand the fundamental law of necessity rules in Nature’s domain, and realize how completely his existence is subject to these laws of eternal battle and the struggle for dominance.
The greatness of any powerful organization, which embodies an idea in this world, depends on the absolutely religious fanaticism with which it establishes itself when compared to others. It must be fanatically convinced that it is right and just, and it must be absolutely intolerant of any idea or organization that is counter to its own teaching. If an idea is right and it takes up the sword of battle with this mind-set, it is invincible and any persecution only strengthens it. The greatness of Christianity was not established through compromise. They had no reason to engage in negotiations of appeasement with those who had roughly similar, ancient philosophical opinions. It was created through unyielding and fanatical declaration and defense of its own teachings.
Tiny tom is responsible for thousands of wasted dollars and man-hours, yet he'll never acknowledge it because nothing can besmirch his manicured lily-white image. Just one more bulk purchase of stickers to save the White race guys!! Fuck Thomas Rousseau.
His ego is his downfall, he thought he can swipe it under the carpet but it would be impossible as Streisand law shows.
 
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Lenin and Menshiviks believed in the same end-goal, the difference was what methods they used.
Yes, but the methods were different. Communists hating sovcial democrats is litteraly a core position of theirs
And they're already here If KF is to be a inclusive big-tent forum, you just don't see them openly admitting themselves here because the most prevailing and socially acceptable tenet here which is shared by all people is that pedos must go behind bars or to the grave, and most of them certainly don't have the balls to sign up and start arguing themselves against anyone here.
That's not purity spiraling. They aren't a core part. yes, due to size we inevitably have some pedos. But they aren't a core member
nd the Spanish system did crap itself... just not with a bang but a whimper instead
I admit I am not well versed on spanish history, but that's more of a fuck up of Franco afterwards rather then flaw of him building a coalition for civil war, no?
And my nigga, he was NOT for coalitions. How was it a coalition when the Nazis pretty much said "yeah fuck off we rule now" to their "coalition partners"?
I was mostly talking about Rohm and Strasser's faction that Big H purged. But he purged them after he came to power. There were disagreements between Rohm and Himmler very early on, but did they split NSDAP or did they tolerate each other for a while?
 
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