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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 59?

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Kermit the Frog said:
Browns drafted Sanders in the 5th round. A little weird considering they already took a QB, but they have nothing at QB so might as well throw darts at the board and see if anything good comes from it.
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Funnily enough, after Shedeur fell out of the 1st round, there's a clip of Deion clowning on Joe Flacco and the Browns with "he's the same age as I am", which may have played a part in him falling to the 5th fucking round.

It's an interesting situation though. The Browns are the Browns, and therefore, a mess. Their QB room is going to be silly with:

- Kenny Pickett
- Joe Flacco
- Deshaun Watson (No idea if they're going to outright cut him or just tell him to sit at home. Neither really makes a difference since the Browns gave him the most retarded contract imaginable)
- Dillon Gabriel
- Shedeur Sanders

It's like they're hoping mediocre QBs (I like Flacco, but he's not the long-term plan) have a mediocre competition to see who will be the least bad and pray it's good enough for the position group to not be a train wreck. Plus, Kevan Stefanski is on the hot seat and it's not like the team is trending upwards.

Though that's in part due to the Deshaun Watson contract and how awful he was even though them accepting that was like pulling teeth. No idea if the Browns being awful last year was a symptom of that shit or just the most visible systemic issue.

Either way, he's got an opportunity to make the team if he can beat Dillon Gabriel in camp or if Kenny Pickett is a mess. Obv, not the most ideal situation of being handed a starting job, or 2nd most of being developed in a good system, but he's immediately in the position to prove people wrong and win the QB3 competition.
 
I mean it not like the browns are competing this year, or the next 3. I don't hate the idea of throwing picks at qbs and hoping to land a HOF qb. They need a total rebuild and if Shedeur can lead them to a first pick then great.
 
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It's like they're hoping mediocre QBs (I like Flacco, but he's not the long-term plan) have a mediocre competition to see who will be the least bad and pray it's good enough for the position group to not be a train wreck. Plus, Kevan Stefanski is on the hot seat and it's not like the team is trending upwards.

Though that's in part due to the Deshaun Watson contract and how awful he was even though them accepting that was like pulling teeth. No idea if the Browns being awful last year was a symptom of that shit or just the most visible systemic issue.

Either way, he's got an opportunity to make the team if he can beat Dillon Gabriel in camp or if Kenny Pickett is a mess. Obv, not the most ideal situation of being handed a starting job, or 2nd most of being developed in a good system, but he's immediately in the position to prove people wrong and win the QB3 competition.
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They're definitely floundering.
-Watson's medicals are probably bad enough to miss most of the season/he sucks ass so he's going on IR to free up a roster spot before getting cut next year when the dead cap is less debilitating
-Flacco/Pickett were planned QB1 and QB2, with Gabriel as a QB3 being groomed as a professional backup so Stefanski can at least keep someone around good at mentals and building familiarity with his scheme
-The plan was not to draft Shedeur or a prospective starter at all this year, but then he either became too cheap for the GM to skip on him a 7th time or Slipping Jimmy finally intervened b/c Sanders is a good way to get attention/butts in seats in the middle of the Browns trying to bilk the city of Cleveland for stadium money.
 
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Señora Airi said:
How many draft picks have had stories similar (getting prank called, random calls) and they laugh about it? Why is Shedeur the one they need to protect so much?
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I don’t know about how many. But I have to believe things change when you’re dealing with an asshole.

It’s funny how the Sanders circus completely decimated any good will Deion could have had, whether it was building up an HBCU program, helping Colorado rise from being worse than shit, or anything involving Travis Hunter.
 
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HackerX said:
- Deshaun Watson (No idea if they're going to outright cut him or just tell him to sit at home. Neither really makes a difference since the Browns gave him the most retarded contract imaginable)
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0% chance we ever see Deshaun Watson play in the NFL again. They can't cut him for another few years because the cap hit is insane. They're just going to have him stay home collecting paychecks until that deal is done.
 
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Absolutego said:
They're definitely floundering.
-Watson's medicals are probably bad enough to miss most of the season/he sucks ass so he's going on IR to free up a roster spot before getting cut next year when the dead cap is less debilitating
-Flacco/Pickett were planned QB1 and QB2, with Gabriel as a QB3 being groomed as a professional backup so Stefanski can at least keep someone around good at mentals and building familiarity with his scheme
-The plan was not to draft Shedeur or a prospective starter at all this year, but then he either became too cheap for the GM to skip on him a 7th time or Slipping Jimmy finally intervened b/c Sanders is a good way to get attention/butts in seats in the middle of the Browns trying to bilk the city of Cleveland for stadium money.
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Yeah, I can understand either scenario, but both have concerns that are endemic to the Cleveland fucking Browns.

I've got no issues with value picks, but it makes no sense when people are shrugging shoulders at a crowded position group with no clear guy at the top. Especially at a position where only one person is on the field at any given time and there are only so many practice reps to give. Taking two QBs in the middle of the draft would make A LOT more sense if they didn't just trade a 5th for Kenny Pickett.

Taking one QB is reasonable, since Pickett's a known commodity and they can invest into QB3's development instead of Pickett's, but taking two basically ensures they are immediately waiving off a 3rd round pick or either 5th round pick (the one used to trade for Pickett or Shedeur). I get that the vast majority of 5th round picks never have any impact, but the Browns are in no position to purposely throw picks away like this when they can take a stab at someone that'll provide depth or succeed at special teams.

Jimmy Haslam pushing this also makes sense, but that highlights why the Browns are the Browns even more. There's nothing anyone can really do about it unless he gets the Dan Snyder treatment, or if coaches and players refuse to join them, though that's not particularly realistic. It's just funny because he's purposefully hemorrhaging his own team by overruling his football operations (again) by pushing his chips in on a 5th round pick in the hopes of beating their own 3rd round pick.

Every scenario is a pyrrhic victory at best. Either Gabriel beats Sanders and the team accepts they threw a 5th round pick away after the first training camp (not overly rare, but a lot more common for 6th/7th rounders) when they have holes everywhere else. OR Sanders beats Gabriel and accepts they threw a 3rd round pick away, which is obviously more lol.

Really, it wouldn't shock me if they end up cutting Flacco or Pickett instead. Keeping 3 QBs on the 53-man roster is rare, but plausible in this situation. The Browns aren't a serious organization, so cutting Flacco isn't implausible even though he's the best QB on the roster. Cutting Pickett is silly since he's relatively young, has starting experience, and they just gave up a 5th round draft pick, but he's effectively clogging up the depth chart after today. The issue is if they cut Pickett and Flacco gets hurt, the Browns would be forced to put either Gabriel or Sanders on the field to get slaughtered, which defeats the point of drafting developmental QBs.

In retrospect, drafting Shedeur Sanders appears to be the most Cleveland Browns thing imaginable.
 
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If this is scripted it worked on me. I was mildly interested in the draft after seeing how far he fell from the predictions and now I'll keep an eye out for headlines about the shitshow that will unfold in the Browns lockroom. Given their history I can't think of a more amusing place for him.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
That’s funny. I’d say that his “don’t tip the cow, observing is funny enough” mantra is what every kiwi abides by. Guess it goes to show how much people here hate Shadeur Sanders.
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I think it's less that and more "what did you expect"? Dealing with shit like that is part of the package when someone gains any level of notoriety. The likelihood increases whenever that person is provacitive, especially to the degree of the Sanders'.

Would I ever do it? No. Am I going to wag my finger over a platitude that some random person, whom I have no control over, is breaking? No. Am I going to laugh at something funny on Internet? Yes. Especially when it's virtually harmless and the only thing it affects is someone who broadcasts their ego as their personality.
 
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HackerX said:
I think it's less that and more "what did you expect"? Dealing with shit like that is part of the package when someone gains any level of notoriety. The likelihood increases whenever that person is provacitive, especially to the degree of the Sanders'.

Would I ever do it? No. Am I going to wag my finger over a platitude that some random person, whom I have no control over, is breaking? No. Am I going to laugh at something funny on Internet? Yes. Especially when it's virtually harmless and the only thing it affects is someone who broadcasts their ego as their personality.
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I guess it all comes down to if you think these frat bros pranking Shadeur adds to the humor of his draft stock tanking and winding up in Cleveland. To some, apparently it doesn’t.
 
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