JonTron Salt - feat. the growing Yooka-Laylee shitstorm (Mighty No. 9 2.0)

[IvanaHumpalot]

At around 17 minutes in Ape breaks him and Destiny resorts to childish name calling.

Edit: DMCA'd.

My God, this guy is such a condescending prick. Like, sure thing, Jon did say some pretty stupid shit from what I can gather, but looking at how this guy is behaving and manner in which he delivers his arguments (he sounds like he's borderline yelling most of the time), would frankly make me punch him. Naked Ape delivered his point in such polite manner, that Destiny immediately ended conversation and said if he has to go further, he'll kill himself. Number 1 debater, y'all.

And this is a guy that I've seen many people siding on just because Jon delivered his points of argument badly. Jesus Christ.

 

[Robotron]

Current Aftermath:

• r/jontron 's subreddit is locked by mods to prevent brigading from r/the_donald, SRS and other shit.

Also Destiny (and a few of his fans) has been raging on KiA atm:

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Was that why the Jontron subreddit was like that? I remembered that subreddit not being as violent towards Jon when the PBG incident happened.

 

[Assorted Nuts]

My God, this guy is such a condescending prick. Like, sure thing, Jon did say some pretty stupid shit from what I can gather, but looking at how this guy is behaving and manner in which he delivers his arguments (he sounds like he's borderline yelling most of the time), would frankly make me punch him. Naked Ape delivered his point in such polite manner, that Destiny immediately ended conversation and said if he has to go further, he'll kill himself. Number 1 debater, y'all.

And this is a guy that I've seen many people siding on just because Jon delivered his points of argument badly. Jesus Christ.

I'm pretty sure he's an emotionally unstable manchild. You should try watching the Mister Metokur debate. Destiny spends the whole thing yelling shit at rapid speed to try and drown out Jim, it's really pathetic. I couldn't handle the autism for more than half an hour and had to shut it off. I hear Jim makes him cry at the end though, which sounds hilarious.

 

[TheImportantFart]

Sargon's made a good video on the debate. I agree with the titles he gave three out of the four videos on Destiny, but the one about Mexicans running Silicon Valley was a bit dubious to me, at least in terms of the reasoning behind it. Still, he admits Jon fucked up the debate:

 

[TowinKarz]

I'm as pissed off at SJWs and their feels-over-facts narratives as anyone else. But at this point, it's like debating conspiracy theorists. They've long ago made up their mind that they're right, you're wrong, and you can't dislodge them from this. You can either agree and chimp alongside them, or disagree and get chimped at by them.

The only winning move is not engage.

JonTron ideally should've just kept on making his videos and stayed out of politics/debates with them, its like trying to prove you aren't a weakling by fighting your Grandma, win and you've proved nothing, lose and the world thinks you're a hapless idiot and piles on even more.

Like ANTIFA and other social baiters, you cannot win against them, no matter how much they deserve to be beaten because they literally do just drag you down to their level and then beat the piss out of you with massed reeeeeeeeeeee-ing.

The best and only way I've found to win against them is to live the life you wanted to live, which never needed their approval in the first place, chances are you're a decent person anyway, and watch them explode from afar because they can't influence you when you ignore them.

 

[Tarprome]

On the end of the day r/jontron lost the shitpost circlejerk crown to r/the_donald.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

Current Aftermath:

• r/jontron 's subreddit is locked by mods to prevent brigading from r/the_donald, SRS and other shit.

Also Destiny (and a few of his fans) has been raging on KiA atm:

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Yknow I didn't know a lot about this Destiny guy but now I know that he's clearly an unlikeable sanctimonious cunt.

I mean really he DMCAs Sargon for showing 30 seconds of his stream? Clearly debate is the wrong career path for him.

 

[FataBataRang]

But at this point, it's like debating conspiracy theorists.

Hey, I just realized something. It may seem a little far-fetched, but please bear with me while I explain. That's because they are conspiracy theorists. They aren't that different from right-wing ones either, when you think about it. Neo-Nazis think Jewish people control everything and use their power to destroy white people and to subvert western culture. SJWs think white people control everything and use their power to destroy people of color and sexual minorities and to subvert non-western culture.

Also just like Neo-Nazis, SJWs engage in racist historical revisionism to suit their ideology. Whatever suits their agenda the best is what they will try to pass off as fact. They are totally shameless. The most infamous and disgusting example of Neo-Nazi revisionism is holocaust denial, but they also try to twist the entire story of WW2 to make it sound like Hitler was somehow just an innocent, peace-loving German nationalist despite all his actions to the contrary. Meanwhile, SJWs attempt to alter history to justify their hypocritical hatred of western civilization, by demonizing white people and idealizing non-whites as angelic little victims. I'm sure Genghis Khan and Oda Nobunaga were so very oppressed.

Another thing you'll notice is that, beyond all reason, both of these fringe groups love to portray themselves as the underdog and greatly exaggerate the power and maliciousness of their enemies, in an effort to prey upon people's fears and insecurities. Listening to a Neo-Nazi, you'd get the impression that those dang, dirty Jews are going to destroy us all any minute now, waging an unseen war against our people. Yet, the years pass and we're all still here, none the wiser despite the Neo-Nazis' nonsensical bickering. Similarly, SJWs have their own scapegoat in the form of white people, especially white males. I'm sure you all remember how they blamed us for Donald Trump's victory, as well as their constant insistence that he is a ruthless fascist dictator. Never once do they stop and think that if he actually was all the things they call him, he would surely have rounded them up and sent them to concentration camps already by now.

 

[José Mourinho]

I remembered that subreddit not being as violent towards Jon when the PBG incident happened.

From my glance it was just shitposting during the PBG incident, and plus most people sided with Jon anyway in the first place.


Also, Destiny's still going:

 

[D.Va]

New piece by Polygon: http://archive.is/cyJb1

The article itself is good, facts-only journalism which is unusual for Polygon standards. Those comments though.

 

[Boobplate]

From my glance it was just shitposting during the PBG incident, and plus most people sided with Jon anyway in the first place.


Also, Destiny's still going:

that guy can't shut up, huh? I'm starting to agree that he does need his own thread, he just seems to be mentally unstable

Was that why the Jontron subreddit was like that? I remembered that subreddit not being as violent towards Jon when the PBG incident happened.

Yeah, jontrons subreddit is getting brigaded by commie / anarchist / radical left subs (part of that is because quite a few destiny's viewers belong to those groups)

There are people who genuinely believe that Stalin dindu nutting and that it's all capitalist propaganda

 

[TowinKarz]

The idea you're dealing with an individual human being doesn't register, they're driving themselves crazy trying to find out what group he belongs to when it's pretty clear he doesn't.

I like the total inability to understand that someone may NOT subscribe to identity politics... "How can he be racist? he's an immigrant/poc descendant? Is he ironically trying to troll the right? Oh, he's a gamer? That explains it"

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

From my glance it was just shitposting during the PBG incident, and plus most people sided with Jon anyway in the first place.


Also, Destiny's still going:

Is this guy insane? It's like he embodies the modern young person's idea of debate that basically devolves into "yell at the other person about how wrong their opinion is and how superior they all until they shut up"

The idea you're dealing with an individual human being doesn't register, they're driving themselves crazy trying to find out what group he belongs to when it's pretty clear he doesn't.

I like the total inability to understand that someone may NOT subscribe to identity politics... "How can he be racist? he's an immigrant/poc descendant? Is he ironically trying to troll the right? Oh, he's a gamer? That explains it"

That's because these people, ironically, HATE individuality. If you belong to X demographic you must act like X demographic.

 

[BrunoMattei]

 

[The Great Chandler]

The /r/circlebroke circlejerks about how "Jontron is racist because he said things".
https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/5zbh98/jontron_debates_destiny_and_outs_himself_as_a/
Here's whatever I pulled out of that anus:

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I think these guys are a special breed of SJW were, although not as dumb as the average one, they're on the level of a creationist apologist.

 

[Hypodermic Johnny]

...Neil Cicierega seems to be trying to regain relevance by jumping on the anti-Jon and anti-Pewds wagon.

Neil, no one even knows who you are outside of that one creepy Windows 95 project and Potter Puppet Pals. And the only reason anyone even still remembers Lemon Demon was because of the Ultimate Showdown animation. Exactly what have you done in the 5-10+ years since those projects? Even your sister, SJW piece of shit that she is/was has seems to have at least gone on to have a career in animation.

Get off your fucking high horse, you washed up judgmental piece of shit.

 

[The Great Chandler]

...Neil Cicierega seems to be trying to regain relevance by jumping on the anti-Jon and anti-Pewds wagon.

Neil, no one even knows who you are outside of that one creepy Windows 95 project and Potter Puppet Pals. And the only reason anyone even still remembers Lemon Demon was because of the Ultimate Showdown animation. Exactly what have you done in the 5-10+ years since those projects? Even your sister, SJW piece of shit that she is/was has seems to have at least gone on to have a career in animation.

Get off your fucking high horse, you washed up judgmental piece of shit.

Any chance that half or more of the Newgrounds user base have become full blown REE REEs?

 

[Owen Grady]

...Neil Cicierega seems to be trying to regain relevance by jumping on the anti-Jon and anti-Pewds wagon.

Neil, no one even knows who you are outside of that one creepy Windows 95 project and Potter Puppet Pals. And the only reason anyone even still remembers Lemon Demon was because of the Ultimate Showdown animation. Exactly what have you done in the 5-10+ years since those projects? Even your sister, SJW piece of shit that she is/was has seems to have at least gone on to have a career in animation.

Get off your fucking high horse, you washed up judgmental piece of shit.

Wow. He went back and dug up a nice compliment Jontron gave him nearly three years ago to use as a platform to spit in his face. What a fucking ass.

 

[Hypodermic Johnny]

Any chance that half or more of the Newgrounds user base have become full blown REE REEs?

It's been years since I used the site regularly enough to remember, but some of them definitely have. I think Oney's working for or at least associated with the Grumps since he knew Arin/Egoraptor back in those days.

Others, thankfully, have had the good sense to die heroes rather than live long enough to become a villain.

...

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

I think Oney's working for or at least associated with the Grumps since he knew Arin/Egoraptor back in those days.

Oney seems to be pretty anti-SJW, he doesn't get into arguments with them as often as, say, Psychicpebbles, but he does mock them occasionally. Plus he often talks with the likes of Chris Ray Gun and shoeonhead, so I don't think there's any reason to worry about him.