Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

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God he is such an annoying grifter. To be clear he is not pursuing an appeal, as the UK Supreme Court is the last stop, and also he is not a party who could appeal anyway. Instead, he is pursuing a new legal argument:



Let’s say he succeeds in the High Court and the Supreme Court refuses to hear an appeal or agrees with him. Hey, he won! It changes literally nothing. The Equality Act as interpreted by the Supreme Court remains the law of the land. At best, the issue is referred to Parliament to consider amending the Equality Act to treat transwomen as women. The UK Parliament can ignore it totally. If he then decided to try his luck in the European Court of Human Rights and succeeds, guess what, it changes literally nothing. The UK Parliament can completely ignore that too.

If he was really serious about this, he’d raise money to donate to the Labour Party in return for rewriting the Act. Only a shitload of cash could ever make this a political priority, and even then there’s no guarantee considering how toxic an issue it is and how little political capital the Labour Government has to burn.
I thought I'd take tthe time to read the Goodwin decision, as I have seen it trodden out everywhere as a counter to this judgment. Anyone can read it here

This case does not address anything concerning bathrooms or the equality acts and that transsexuals need to be treated entirely similar to women. It first of all specifically concerns post-op transsexuals, which nowadays is a minority group of transpeople. Only those people that have fully transitioned both medically and socially would be included in this protection.
Secondly, it concerned specifically a procedure cocnerning pensions and the continued need to pay national insurance contributions, as he was still legally a male this would have potentially had the effect of the government explicitly outing him, which was considered an issue.

However, the msot important aspect is that as with nearly any right under the European Convention of Human Rights, in the case of aa conflcit of rights, tthe different rights need to be weighed against each other. As the Court itself states:

Nor is the Court convinced by arguments that allowing the applicant to fall under the rules applicable to women, which would also change the date of eligibility for her state pension, would cause any injustice to others in the national insurance and state pension systems as alleged by the Government. No concrete or substantial hardship or detriment to the public interest has indeed been demonstrated as likely to flow from any change to the status of transsexuals

There was not really any need to weigh different rights in this regard, however in the case of the current ruling, this would certainly need to be w eighing of rights, as it would cause injustice to others, among them women's right to privacy, as well as a possible clear detriment to public interest. AS the case invovled specifically article 8, the TRA seem to forget the second paragraph of this article:

There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

This does not mean that no difference can be made between women and men and that transsexuals might not be excluded from specific protections
 
There is an old survey regarding religiosity that I wish I still had a reference to. Long story short, they found that if you’re not “born again Christian” by 21 that you’ll probably never be.

This is why godsquad and hatching “eggs” — encouraging transitions — in late teens is so important for the aforementioned villains.
No, before the last 10 years or so most trannies transitioned at the age of 30 or later. Taking hormones as early as possible makes a body more "passable."
 
No, before the last 10 years or so most trannies transitioned at the age of 30 or later. Taking hormones as early as possible makes a body more "passable."
No. It's just that the best odds for looking a little less like a monster hon is before twink death hits. After that, it's done. But that doesn't have to do with HRT - it has to do with looking androgynous enough as a male and it comes down to genetics, not poisoning yourself.

It doesn't matter if you started at 11 like Jazz Jennings. As you age you'll just keep on getting more and more masculine - just like Mother Nature intended.
 
If the ECHR ends up passing some ruling that, if followed, obliges the UK to treat transwoman legally as women, and the Labour government seems to be acting upon that ruling, it would guarantee a Reform government and a departure from the ECHR.
 
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No. It's just that the best odds for looking a little less like a monster hon is before twink death hits. After that, it's done. But that doesn't have to do with HRT - it has to do with looking androgynous enough as a male and it comes down to genetics, not poisoning yourself.

It doesn't matter if you started at 11 like Jazz Jennings. As you age you'll just keep on getting more and more masculine - just like Mother Nature intended.
It's a catch-22 anyway. If Mr. Jennings is anything to go by, starting at 11 prevents the... development... necessary for a "successful" penile inversion. Unless new horrors have been cooked up by the Frankensteins that perform SRS, I presume that's an issue across the board.
 
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Good luck with that Colin.

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It's all fairly toothless anyway in most aspects of life and Colin's stupid doomposting is nonsense here. You can clarify all the legislation you like, the police will still be referring to troons as women in press releases related to crime, or referring to missing men as women. Highly doubt the rozzers will overnight become the Single-Sex-Space-Protection-Squad.
 
Again, J.K Rowling is turning 60 this year and like I said in another comment, assuming she lives for another 30 years, nobody by that point is going to give a shit about "Trans rights" and cheer that she died because she was a "transphobe". At most, people will probably be sad she died but overall move on the next day because J.K isn't a part of most people's lives.
 

A while back I got into an discussion about trans with a buddy. He went super aggressive at the slightest suggestion I wasn't 100% on board. Proclaiming, "Trans women are women." I confounded him into a corner he couldn't respond by merely pointing out that under that, a trans women and a biological women have differences. "Your wife is different than a trans women."
The response was literally, "I hadn't thought of that." He was lost. He had no answer. It went against what he believed to be true but he knew it was correct. He had just dogmatically accepted it with no understanding or thought.

These aren't discussions where people change their mind. Just state points of view. It was one of those things where you realise there isn't actually something you maybe don't quite understand. Whatever the trans stuff is, the widespread acceptance is a psuedo science ideology. This was also a very smart, highly educated and successful lawyer.

I still don't quite understand when and how so many of my peers got indoctrinated in all of this stuff.

God help the younger people. I know someone who is a lecturer in areas that incorporate this gender bullshit. They literally have said that they have to tell students to stop questioning it and accept it to do the course work. As they can't answer their questions about the inconsistencies about it.
 
That is a really interesting and enraging site. It even has a few angry pooners, which just underscores how many men in dresses like cheese pizza.

It does the ritual explanation which somehow I don’t see the Nazis doing when attacking Jews:

We absolutely recognise that the majority of trans people live law-abiding lives and the individual crime reports documented on this site no more represent all trans people than Fred West or Harvey Weinstein represent all men. But crime is highly gendered, particularly sexual and violent offending, and some scientific studies indicate that a male pattern of criminality is retained among those males who transition to live as trans women.

There’s no information about who is behind the site, but there is information about how many previous attempts to track trans crime got squelched as hate speech. My guess is academics in criminology, law and sociology are compiling this, as they are finding it hard to do this research in their day jobs.
 
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