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If your culture includes the Klan, then I could see why you walked away with that impression.I then was treated to a non stop hateful racist movie about how my culture is evil and must be purged.
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If your culture includes the Klan, then I could see why you walked away with that impression.I then was treated to a non stop hateful racist movie about how my culture is evil and must be purged.
The movie is about the entirety of white culture: religion, music, consumerism being an actively hostile force that the heroes must destroy. The only white characters represented in the movie are KKK stooges and vampires. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell the director is commenting on modern white culture by using 30's era caricatures. It was his choice to choose those representatives of the white race, it was my choice to realize the movie is still deciding to attack any and every white person for trying to be involved with other cultures.If your culture includes the Klan, then I could see why you walked away with that impression.
Slop with sweetener is still slop.
There’s a tendency here on the Farms for younger posters to deny the strong influence of conservative Christianity on mainstream culture in the 80’s and 90’s. I’m close in age to Mike and Jay, and like them, I grew up far from the Bible Belt. It was still a persistent presence in my normal middle class public high school to a degree that won’t sink in unless you were around back then.People seem to forget these guys are Gen X who came up during the early internet era. Back then everyone used to laugh together when some conservative politician would scream about Disney being funded by Satan. Like seriously no one remembers them cracking up at that ridiculous anti-porn propaganda video on Wheel of the Worst? Their takes might shock younger folks today but honestly they're just rolling with the same mindset most people had back in 2013.
I did not see myself in any of the caricatures, so I didn't take particular offense. The message I took wasn't so much that white culture needs to be destroyed (the white vampires were shown to be talented musicians in their own right; I think one of the black characters even said so), but that black culture/identity needs to be protected. I'll note that at the end, modern hip hop culture were also portrayed as vampires.The movie is about the entirety of white culture: religion, music, consumerism being an actively hostile force that the heroes must destroy. The only white characters represented in the movie are KKK stooges and vampires. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell the director is commenting on modern white culture by using 30's era caricatures. It was his choice to choose those representatives of the white race, it was my choice to realize the movie is still deciding to attack any and every white person for trying to be involved with other cultures.
But nice reddit gotcha. You are the reason these movies are made.
The director was trying to draw comparisons between Irish and Blacks, in the way English Christians swept in and took Irish land and culture, Whitey is swooping in and stealing from Blacks. The talented Irish musicians were meant to be victims too. This sort of comparison falls flat when you realize it's just an extra layer of armor against white criticism, in the same way casting all white people as villains is a meta way to create low brow criticism. This entire project is manufactured to race bait. The assumption is that the mick was turned into a vampire by some English person and joined the consumer cult. If you are white and even seeing Sinners, the director is mocking you for trying to consume his culture. If they drew some connection between modern hip hop and vampires at the end credits I missed it, when we saw the guy playing guitar we left. So that is interesting but I still can't deny the entire movie I watched where people were killed en masse for trying to "breach" black culture.I did not see myself in any of the caricatures, so I didn't take particular offense. The message I took wasn't so much that white culture needs to be destroyed (the white vampires were shown to be talented musicians in their own right; I think one of the black characters even said so), but that black culture/identity needs to be protected. I'll note that at the end, modern hip hop culture were also portrayed as vampires.
The director was trying to draw comparisons between Irish and Blacks, in the way English Christians swept in and took Irish land and culture, Whitey is swooping in and stealing from Blacks. The talented Irish musicians were meant to be victims too. This sort of comparison falls flat when you realize it's just an extra layer of armor against white criticism, in the same way casting all white people as villains is a meta way to create low brow criticism. This entire project is manufactured to race bait. The assumption is that the mick was turned into a vampire by some English person and joined the consumer cult. If you are white and even seeing Sinners, the director is mocking you for trying to consume his culture. If they drew some connection between modern hip hop and vampires at the end credits I missed it, when we saw the guy playing guitar we left. So that is interesting but I still can't deny the entire movie I watched where people were killed en masse for trying to "breach" black culture.
Only part that ended up being wrong btw.when some conservative politician would scream about Disney beingfundedbySatan.
You said it yourself, you grew up in the bible belt. Other places weren't the same.There’s a tendency here on the Farms for younger posters to deny the strong influence of conservative Christianity on mainstream culture in the 80’s and 90’s. I’m close in age to Mike and Jay, and like them, I grew up far from the Bible Belt. It was still a persistent presence in my normal middle class public high school to a degree that won’t sink in unless you were around back then.
There's also a tendency among gen x-ers and similar age groups where their rose tinted glasses gives them tunnel vision. "Conservative Christian values" was used by both sides of the aisle to advocate against all sorts of causes. Busybodies like Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton were lifelong Democrats and were advocating against violent video games and provocative television indistinguishable from their "conservative" peers. RLM (and others in their age group) has a very bad habit of laughing at the backwards past as if their contemporary ideological allies weren't taking part as well.There’s a tendency here on the Farms for younger posters to deny the strong influence of conservative Christianity on mainstream culture in the 80’s and 90’s. I’m close in age to Mike and Jay, and like them, I grew up far from the Bible Belt. It was still a persistent presence in my normal middle class public high school to a degree that won’t sink in unless you were around back then.
I dunno why but RLM fans hate the guests when 9 out of 10 times they're so much better than Josh at least?I like the new Hollywood fucker who does impressions.
He might be the best guest so far.
Him calling the lead actor of the movie they just watched has changed the game, other guests need to step up in the future.
I said I grew up FAR from the Bible Belt.You said it yourself, you grew up in the bible belt. Other places weren't the same.
Why are you turning this into a political slap fight? No one is talking about Dems vs Republicans, and in doing so you’re showing your terminal partisan derangement. Ideological allies? Come on. We never cared who was a Republican and who was a Democrat. We laughed at Tipper Gore in the same way we laughed at Televangelists. You’re proving my point. You’ll never get it.There's also a tendency among gen x-ers and similar age groups where their rose tinted glasses gives them tunnel vision. "Conservative Christian values" was used by both sides of the aisle to advocate against all sorts of causes. Busybodies like Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton were lifelong Democrats and were advocating against violent video games and provocative television indistinguishable from their "conservative" peers. RLM (and others in their age group) has a very bad habit of laughing at the backwards past as if their contemporary ideological allies weren't taking part as well.
Yeah that's weird. Jack Quaid, Mac and Josh 2 have been really knocking it out of the park.I dunno why but RLM fans hate the guests when 9 out of 10 times they're so much better than Josh at least?
Jack and Mac are pretty funny at times. Who's Josh 2? The comic book guy?Yeah that's weird. Jack Quaid, Mac and Josh 2 have been really knocking it out of the park.
Jack and Mac are pretty funny at times. Who's Josh 2? The comic book guy?