AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[Skylavijas]

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Holy fuck, a blue checkmark with an actually funny tweet!

 

[cybertoaster]

The most popular content is still anime girls of "undetermined age" getting piped.

Then there's the "weird shit"...

That one was a long time coming. LORAs based on real people was already getting flack because of deep fake concerns. To compromise Civit did ban posting NSFW images of real people. But come on, you and I both know what kind of images are being made with those LORAs...

Not just posting but generating too, but come on you know full well those LoRAs are already out there, its pointless to ban them. Even training one from scratch isn't hard, if you got the hardware and know how to get comfyUI and shit going you can do that too, or just use runpod.

If I were them I would be far more concerned on monetization, they barely make any money meanwhile tons of skiddies steal content from their platform and resell it.

I don't believe they're banning guns, just explicit images where a gun is being pointed at the viewer.

IIRC also pointed at other characters but still there were some funny memes with those, and now its gone.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

Apparently they’re going to put AI into game shows, and that’s a bad thing unless the AI is going to their shows according to lolcow Cory Anotado of Buzzerblog.

 

[kiwirevolving]

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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[cybertoaster]

Does he not know where "donut steel" comes from?

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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I seen people doing original stuff with AI, there are even LoRAs for new styles that aren't from any artist, but if you're a lazy shit who can't even prompt correctly then yeah its going to look like shit.

 

[The Entity]

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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Or, they could just draw 6 frames in 1 month and then fill the rest of it in with AI and you get the best of both worlds.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

I seen people doing original stuff with AI, there are even LoRAs for new styles that aren't from any artist, but if you're a lazy shit who can't even prompt correctly then yeah its going to look like shit.

It's been said before but AI is just the latest tool. Every single "artist" that hates AI in general is using shit that 40 years ago the same species of people would be saying is anti-art technology. It won't be long before we have pretentious AI snobs from this generation looking down on whatever the next iteration of AI advancement is

 

[Bad Joss]

Here's something I saw while browsing Pinterest for artwork for my DND game. This is a picture from an old DND supplement from the 90s I think.

I understand why artists are so scared of AI, given they fear that they're being replaced. I think they still act like massive faggots about it, but I can understand where they're coming from. I can't wrap my mind around normal people (if you can call them that) who are so afraid that they might think something AI created is cool that they scrutinize every single piece of artwork they come across. If it's a heinous picture of real person, yes, look at it with questioning because it could be trying to make someone look bad. But why freak out over a piece of fantasy artwork? I think AI art has a place in quick clip art, but also makes the random person with no artistic talent (like myself) realize some things that are only in their imagination. It's really good for stuff like visual aids in roleplaying games at least. Anyways, I just thought it was funny that this guy was scared of this really old artwork because the artist wasn't perfect with his perspective.

 

[NiggerNiggerNigger]

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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Accelerate. Media as a technology needs to collapse entirely. Imagine how much garbage the retarded degenerate masses will produce with this. Imagine the hamfisted soulless cheap and tonedeaf pozz the media will shovel into all of their subscription cattle's faces on platforms that they already watch less than 1% of the catalog.
My mom loved my shitty macaroni art when I was a kid.
Art (media) is like that. People don't remember what its like to have a real connection to media because people aren't connected to a nation anymore.
The closest thing most of us have to that is memes.
Why do you think people love memes? They're not high quality images.
>/ourguys/ made that

Spoiler: simple as

 

[linchan]

 

[Colon capital V]

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Kind of a shit way of gauging human behavior as redditors are not human.

 

[Skylavijas]

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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I'm sorry, but the AI version doesn't look nearly as good. It's clear the crowd scene isn't just filler, as there is so much detail into how each individual moves. There is a couple struggling to reach each other in the sea of people, a man trying to keep his horse under the control while somebody else yells at him holding a carriage, farmers struggling to push a wagon forward, one young boy holding the hand of his grandmother to push through the crowd, etc.

While in the AI version the crowd almost feels like a moving PNG. It may take a long while before AI will be able to do crowds such as these properly, as most anime tend to just use 3D animation to copy-paste models, to give a sense of scale. Even Hollywood live-action films don't bother filming scenes with 100+ extras in them, as they used to in the past for historical dramas, ever since CGI became the norm.

 

[linchan]

Kind of a shit way of gauging human behavior as redditors are not human.

AI talking to NPC's on Reddit.

 

[AnOminous]

Kind of a shit way of gauging human behavior as redditors are not human.

It would probably be more accurate if you did it with rats or tapeworms or something with actual intelligence.

 

[Runch]

Spending 15 months drawing a 4 seconds long scene that's just filler is better than using AI apparently

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This guy makes me MATI, what a retarded speedrun of the dumbest arguments. Nothing is examined critically, it's all just the telephone game of what other NPCs have been saying.

The law isn't "catching up," there aren't new AI-specific laws concerning infringement being drafted in civilized countries. AI fits into existing laws and most indications seem to be that training is fine. If your phone camera can detect faces in order to focus on them, that's more or less the same process: feeding an image into a computer and extracting a tiny, non-infringing amount of information from it ("face located at X 344, Y 291"). There's no reason to arbitrarily decide computers can't derive a few bytes of data from an image. Copyright infringement is illegal, so prove the infringement by pointing directly at your stolen data. If you can't, get fucked.

Miyazaki didn't "see an AI demo" and react that way, he saw a reinforcement-learned movement simulator and it reminded him of the pained movements of his disabled friend so he thought it looked like a gross mockery. This had nothing to do with whether or not he would approve of generative AI. He's still alive and I don't think anyone has any quotes from him on the subject?

"AI is different from photography because it only exists by remixing what came before, izzat plagiarism??" So...how does photography not literally capture things that came before? And can he prove that humans don't also just remix what came before? We like to think we're better than AI, but we just have better developed senses to absorb and categorize all the information around us. Almost everyone remixes everything they've been exposed to in order to create. Lucas loved Kurosawa which influenced Star Wars. Star Wars has influenced countless other creators. You don't have to feel bad about being a remixer, it's wired into what you are. You take two different things and realize they go well together, put on a spin on it based on your life experiences or a story you want to make your own. We just want to claim total ownership over things, we're too proud to admit that everything we make comes from everything we've ever seen. AI isn't on our level yet and might never be, but there's nothing magical about what we do to mash our experiences into something cool.

 

[didelphigina]

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Might as well conduct that on a majority of popular subreddits since they all function the same with their astroturfed posts filled with comments ushering the same thing. Someone could sneak in hundreds of bots in a comment section and no one would be the wiser as long as that bot said something they can agree to.

 

[Repeat Edge Pixels]

Several weeks ago, Igorrr, a fairly popular avantgarde metal artist, released a music video made with AI. IMO, one of the best AI-made videos so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkkxqghGNo

Reactions in place like YouTube have been positive... reactions in places like Reddit and RateYourMusic, not so much.

Check out these RateYourMusic reviews with their thoughtful and rational discourse:

A 'forward-thinking', avant-garde band, using cutting-edge techniques?! Inconceivable!

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Just experienced a new, odder form of AI derangement. I won't bore you all with the details or specifics for obvious reasons, but here goes:

I'm sure we're all aware of fanfiction. One of my buddies enjoys writing it for a certain property, and has been doing so for nearly a year now, up to 20 Chapters or so in his story. Being from Brazil, his English is passable, but he's still working on it, knowing more people will read English than Portuguese. Gives him some practice too. Now he's the rub: he uses AI to help write some of his things, and the quality definitely improved when he started using it. I've watched and helped the process, and other than grammar and some minor things, it's definitely his own work. I even edit for him when it's finished so that I can trim the fat and fix things, some of which are AI babble when the machine acts up. Until now, no one has noticed or cared.

Until today.

Someone left a comment that his work popped up on a Grok check (lmfao) for 77% AI Usage on a giant list that a group on the website created to track this stuff. It then recommended the list to avoid stories like his for AI use without actually posting it to look over. Now, I instantly laughed this off, as having been through the misery of academia, and a course for writing and advanced English at that, these "checkers" produce false positives and almost arbitrary results quite frequently, or miss entirely AI produced writings. Now the never lied or hid the AI usage, and was more than happy to admit so in order to provide a better story. But I could tell that he was crushed by this. It's not like he's shitting out garbage that's flooding up the Amazon book listings, he's using the AI as a tool to help, and now stories like his are being written off because it failed a "check". But the part that gets me riled up is that no one's doing this for a payday or making money off fanfic, so why the fuck do people care about this as much as they do? Artistic integrity? From a medium born from wanting to see Spock and Captain Kirk buttfuck each other? Give me a break. I've used it once as a joke, but if we're going to have people scanning every single fanfiction to meet their standards, we're going to hit a point where no one will want to bother because certain dickheads will be going down purity spirals like the art world has recently.

I saw some people talking about fanfiction writers panicking about copyright, but this is a whole new bear to deal with.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

But the part that gets me riled up is that no one's doing this for a payday or making money off fanfic, so why the fuck do people care about this as much as they do? Artistic integrity? From a medium born from wanting to see Spock and Captain Kirk buttfuck each other? Give me a break.

That is the interesting part about all of this: the people most vocally anti-AI are the ones largely creating art based on someone else’s work

 

[AnOminous]

That is the interesting part about all of this: the people most vocally anti-AI are the ones largely creating art based on someone else’s work

Funny how that is. Someone charging money to make porn commissions of ponies and shit is big mad about AI for "stealing."