Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Also I'm glad we both never have to see more of the lesbian BS and more importantly that the jeet got to go be on a better show (unlike Andor, Doctor Who is currently good enough that I can look past the woke BS).
 
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Why did Andor include an attempted sexual assault scene? And why do people justify it by saying that "just because rape hasn't been shown doesn't meant it happens its a big galaxy!" Well we've never seen actual sex, prostitution or people taking violent shits on screen, that doesn't mean it needs to be shown. This is how you get people turning SW into a brand for their own rhetoric and personal politics.
 
Guys! They had a lesbian kiss! This is LITERALLY the first time two chicks have made out in a sci-fi series! Well, except for Jadzia in Star Trek: Deep Space 9...thirty years ago. And the indian chick is dead now. The actress was probably too busy with filming Doctor Who episodes.
 
Guys! They had a lesbian kiss! This is LITERALLY the first time two chicks have made out in a sci-fi series! Well, except for Jadzia in Star Trek: Deep Space 9...thirty years ago. And the indian chick is dead now. The actress was probably too busy with filming Doctor Who episodes.
IM TOTALLY GOING TO GET A DISNEY PLUS SUBSCRIPTION RIGHT THE FUCK NOW TO WATCH THIS AMAZING SHOW
 
Andor write-up for the second week. Things are heating up for galaxy after the slow burn that was the first three episodes. Breaking these episodes down by unique points rather than each individual episode.

Ghorman is the centerpiece for the episodes in 3 BBY. We get to explore their culture and history. It appears that the planet goes back for some time as the leader of the Ghorman Front stated that his shop goes back 19 generations and is one of the youngest shops. The language is a mix of European languages, though it seems that a lot of people considered them French.

The Empire's oppression of Ghorman has been there since the beginning. Grand Moff Tarkin dropped his cruiser on top of Ghorman protestors in 19 BBY. I am very happy that such atrocity was brought back up. Ghorman is a single export planet, only producing its textiles and importing everything else. Such a rich yet vulnerable planet was perfect for the Empire to tighten its grip on.

The Ghorman Front has been stewing in Imperial resentment for decades and yet they have no skill in the art of rebellion. A raid on an Imperial arms transport leads to the loss of one of Luthen's agents, Cinta, to accidental fire from one of the Ghormans. But it is all playing into Imperial hands.

Syril is working as a double agent for the ISB. He was transferred to Ghorman, much to the chagrin of his mother, and was picked up by the Ghorman Front for his continued positive remarks about the Ghormans and having been dismissed from his Morlana One posting by the ISB. He provides the Front with intel about transports and spies on their actions.

He is genuinely happy to do this work to squash an anti-Imperial cell, but he has been kept in the dark about the entire reason for his mission. The Empire is deliberately triggering an uprising to displace the Ghormans. Syril may have actual positive sentiments for the Ghormans or will be disturbed upon the revelation of what his actions will lead to. Deedra and Syril continue to have affection for one another, so it is possible that she will try to protect him or maybe her Imperial loyalties will win out over love.

Andor and Bix are currently settled in a safehouse on Courscant. Bix still suffers Gorst nightmares and dulls herself with drugs. Andor suffers from stress after a mission where he killed someone who saw Bix's face. The constant missions are tiring the both of them.

Andor is sent on a mission by Luthen to check out the Ghorman Front. Luthen continues to persuade Andor to think of the bigger picture, but it is clear Andor's focus is on protecting Bix. Andor meets with the Ghorman Front and he recognizes that they are not ready but Luthen is willing to let them burn out in a brief, but bright light. Andor is also disturbed that Luthen went to meet with Bix alone (I assume this distrust will come to a boil over the rest of the season). Luthen wants her as an asset just as useful as Andor. They are given a mission to eliminate Dr. Gorst, as he is being transferred from the ISB to the military's Imperial Intelligence to train them in his interrogation methods. Gorst is forced to listen to his own torture recording before his apartment level is blown up.

Wilmon was sent off to work with Saw's partisans and train an engineer on the process for the safe extraction of the explosive Rhydonium fuel. Saw comes off as a bit of a madman, secretly proposing to kill Wilmon after he teaches the engineer. It turns out the engineer is a traitor (a giveaway was the guy asking for which refueling station they were going to hit) and Wilmon is sent to extract the fuel.

While conducting the extraction, Saw tells Wilmon the first time he experienced the smell of rhydonium. It was at a work camp on Onderon. A leak sprung. Working naked, Saw could feel an itch all over his body, as if his skin came alive. He came to enjoy the sensation, the burn. He felt kinship with the Rhydo, that the both of them were the thing that explodes when there is too much friction in the air.

A brilliant line from Saw is "Revolution is not for the sane". They are all going to die before the Empire is defeated, but they are the spark. Wilmon is taking in by Saw's words and breaths in the rhydo.

Luthen's network is growing, but the strands holding it together are becoming brittle. Sculden is reappraising artifacts from Luthen, one of which has a listening device. Luthen and Kleya have to dismantle it during a Senate Investiture party. Kleya is able to do so with the help of their ISB asset Lonni (who was at the party with other agents, as well as Director Krennic, verbally sparring with Mon Mothma).

Luthen may have saved his network in the nick of time but we are again seeing another lucky break. His luck is bound to run out in next week's episodes.
 
You're the human equivalent of ChatGPT and a nigger. Kys and stop glazing this garbage.
This from the guy who wanted rape scenes to be “sexy”.

I’m writing this to jot down my thoughts, provide highlights for people who want to know what the show is about, and encourage discussion.

But no, let’s keep complaining about the existence of lesbians and melanated individuals in a galaxy far, far away. That’s sustained this thread for 3000+ pages!
 
It's actually kind of funny that the Imperials set things up in Ghorman to give the Rebels a decisive win, and yet the Rebels bungle it and get an operative killed in the field in the process.

Last week, we saw a major figure funding the Rebellion get the metaphorical cement shoes because he started crashing out in a party, and a rebel cell being so disorganized they started blowing each other's brains out despite being stuck in a hostile jungle full of wild animals that yearn for the taste of human blood.

Outside of Andor himself, who is a mid-level Rebel operative at best, it's kind of hard to root for these clowns. The Empire is portrayed as evil, yes, but at least they get things done, to the point where they even use a clumsy-ass corpo-cop for their Ghorman plot, and he succeeds in getting the ball rolling. They discuss genocide plans while stuffing their faces with cake because they have things under control, to the point where they have little to worry about. Krennic is a primadonna as usual, but he's at least good at keeping up a screen presence and tension.

As for the rapist Imperial officer, he was corrupt. He was willing to look the other way at the fact that Bix and the others are fugitives from Imperial justice in exchange for sex. If his superiors found out about that, getting castrated would be a mercy compared to what the Empire would do to him for bending the law in exchange for pussy.

Meanwhile, Mon Mothma's best scene so far was when she started dancing on her daughter's wedding because of how mentally crashed she is over everything.

The most effective rebel cell at this point is Saw Gerrera's. And he's an unhinged lunatic who sniffs Rhydonium fumes. When your best man is an unhinged lunatic who gets high off jet fuel, you know you're FUBAR.

I guess it's all to depict the long march as to how the Rebellion went from a total crashout mess, to an organized army that can give the Empire a black eye or two.

Also, with rebels like Luthen Rael, the Empire won't need a Death Star to wipe out the Rebellion. He was willing to push an entire Rebel cell on a wealthy and influential world like Ghorman to commit to a suicidal cause just to fan the flames of rebellion. At this point, he's like a 40K Commissar trying to push the Rebels to charge into suicidal odds; that would just end with more Rebels dead, and the Empire would just spin the narrative to their favor, especially since it's shown that they have people whose main expertise is to go full spin-doctor on the media to turn the narrative to their favor.
 
Retroactively trying to turn George Lucas's simple-minded original stories into a coherent historical narrative of how a rebellion starts is mostly futile.
The most bizarre aspect to the story is that the empire creates a rebellion by constructing a weapon that they don't really have any particular need of at the time they are building it. You would build a death star to deal with an existing rebellion. You wouldn't build a death star to deal with a galaxy you utterly control at every level.
Andor Seasaon 2 is now half over. No rebellion exists at all worthy of that name. They are three years out from the destruction of the death star. And somehow they are going to stand up an entire fleet of ships and all the organized infrastructure of a rebellion in just a handful of episodes.
The first season of Andor was ok in terms of sort-of showing the reasons why organized rebellions happen. But so far the second season is written as if the show is planning to have about 10 more seasons to it.
 
Retroactively trying to turn George Lucas's simple-minded original stories into a coherent historical narrative of how a rebellion starts is mostly futile.
The most bizarre aspect to the story is that the empire creates a rebellion by constructing a weapon that they don't really have any particular need of at the time they are building it. You would build a death star to deal with an existing rebellion. You wouldn't build a death star to deal with a galaxy you utterly control at every level.
Andor Seasaon 2 is now half over. No rebellion exists at all worthy of that name. They are three years out from the destruction of the death star. And somehow they are going to stand up an entire fleet of ships and all the organized infrastructure of a rebellion in just a handful of episodes.
The first season of Andor was ok in terms of sort-of showing the reasons why organized rebellions happen. But so far the second season is written as if the show is planning to have about 10 more seasons to it.
Tbf we saw the Death Star plans back in AOTC and it began construction at the end of ROTS (not sure what year that is) so I think Palpatine just wanted one for Sith reasons. Also I will say that the dumbass timeline shit is Filoni's fault because he had to retcon the former apprentice of Darth Vader being the inspiration for the Rebellion (which is a brilliant and awesome storytelling idea) so he could make his OC whiny bitch jeet boy the most important boy in the universe.

This from the guy who wanted rape scenes to be “sexy”.

I’m writing this to jot down my thoughts, provide highlights for people who want to know what the show is about, and encourage discussion.

But no, let’s keep complaining about the existence of lesbians and melanated individuals in a galaxy far, far away. That’s sustained this thread for 3000+ pages!
So you want rape, lesbians, niggers, jeets, and political BS in your Star Wars? You're worse than I thought.
 
Like seriously go back and watch Rebels, the Rebellion was born because some guy we never never heard of who just so happened to be best buds with Ahsoka and Captain Rex and could defeat Vader and Thrawn gave a speech. It's the dumbest self insert bullshit I've ever seen.
 
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It feels like the target audience of Andor S2 is Twitter snobs. It's directed at people that care about narrative structure and plot devices more than substance. We're halfway through S2 and nothing's really happened. Also, the time skips don't make a very coherent story. I don't know why they titled it Andor when Cassian's barely on screen. It's not even that bad, I just expected a lot more after S1.
 
I watched ROTS in the theater and was amazed at the details you miss on the smaller screens. Also the intensity and fast pace for such a long movie. Even the parts I remember cringing at when new:

Came off as 'ok'. Compared to modern Trek/SW slop it was something else. I wonder if they reran special screenings of TNG Trek movies if they'd make decent money now even. The absolute garbage of 'big scifi' since ROTS is a bit of a shock to think about,
 
The most bizarre aspect to the story is that the empire creates a rebellion by constructing a weapon that they don't really have any particular need of at the time they are building it. You would build a death star to deal with an existing rebellion. You wouldn't build a death star to deal with a galaxy you utterly control at every level.
The Empire was already constructing the Death Star at the beginning of its rule. It was always planning on using planet destroying weapons to keep worlds in line, rebellion or not.

Damn, that chick got pretty vindictive towards that young lad with the gun at the end. It wasn't even his fault that the shot fired and killed the lesbo blonde's girlfriend. It was the big dude who got in the way; why she isn't giving that big guy the dressing-down is weird to me. Instead, she's angry that someone's crying over the fact that they shot an innocent person.
The lad did fire the shot, for one. Vel also directly stated that Cinta and her were the only ones to carry blasters, and it turns out that one of the Ghormans disobeyed that order.

The Ghorman Front were inexperienced. They told Cinta and Vel about the buildings and the occupants of the area they were going to conduct the raid. However, they neglected to case the area for foot traffic. No one was trained on how to handle civilians. No trust in leadership.

It is likely that Vel is lashing out and blaming herself in her outburst to the boy. She wanted to be with Cinta on a mission and the first chance she got ended with her death. She can’t cry about it and she has to carry that guilt for the rest of her life.
 
The Empire was already constructing the Death Star at the beginning of its rule. It was always planning on using planet destroying weapons to keep worlds in line, rebellion or not.
Last I checked, the CIS began the construction of the Death Star. The Empire just continued it to have a weapon in the odd case that the Rebels or the Yuuzhan Vong showed up.

The lad did fire the shot, for one. Vel also directly stated that Cinta and her were the only ones to carry blasters, and it turns out that one of the Ghormans disobeyed that order.
By accident. And it makes sense for someone to carry a blaster in the odd case some meddlers or Imperial toadies showed up.

The Ghorman Front were inexperienced. They told Cinta and Vel about the buildings and the occupants of the area they were going to conduct the raid. However, they neglected to case the area for foot traffic. No one was trained on how to handle civilians. No trust in leadership.
Andor said as much, Luthen didn't give a shit.

Again, with rebel leaders like Luthen, the Empire won't need a Death Star to kill them all, because he'll send them all to their graves just trying to prove a point.

It is likely that Vel is lashing out and blaming herself in her outburst to the boy. She wanted to be with Cinta on a mission and the first chance she got ended with her death. She can’t cry about it and she has to carry that guilt for the rest of her life.
The least she can do is blame the bulky guy who started the commotion in the first place.
 
But no, let’s keep complaining about the existence of lesbians and melanated individuals in a galaxy far, far away. That’s sustained this thread for 3000+ pages!
Star Wars by this metric was fucked the moment Lando "Where da white wimmen at" Calrissian sleazed his way on screen to take passes at Leia.

Rape and gays are also older in the franchise than on the TV. Particularly the rape. Same with politics given the "fuck the evil empire sending us to nam" moments that you can chalk up to in Episode 6. What I'm trying to say is that it's always been a gay IP with politics in it; at least if the only thing that drives you to tard fits is just these items. Difference was a combo of skill and not screeching a lame and simple message with contempt at you to the point they nuke the story since they think they're smart for fighting battles already won, and think the audience is dumber than they are, which is impressive incompetence.

As for Andor's season 2, it's looking functional. Nothing amazing enough for me to ever bother with a subscription for and I'd probably have to be talked into watching it, but when malicious incompetent is the norm I guess offbrand Fent is fine. At least it isn't toilet Fent laced with bleach and cyanide as the dealer mutters they hope you die covered in shit and screaming in agony when you take it.

Does look like the rape bit was unneeded, but eh. so was naming it after Andor. It's very clear there was no point in even making him a character IMO. Shame it doesn't matter due to the sequels tho.
 
As for Andor's season 2, it's looking functional. Nothing amazing enough for me to ever bother with a subscription for and I'd probably have to be talked into watching it, but when malicious incompetent is the norm I guess offbrand Fent is fine. At least it isn't toilet Fent laced with bleach and cyanide as the dealer mutters they hope you die covered in shit and screaming in agony when you take it.
At $300 million a season--which is more than an MCU movie--it's telling just how inefficient Gilroy is as a showrunner. He's given multiple blank checks and manages to make functional shows, not great ones. Objectively, I can't say he is competent knowing he needs this amount of resources to make okay stories.
 
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