Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[NiggerNiggerNigger]

I agree, but I find the messages inside their propaganda and actions much more convincing than the positions of someones hand. A symbol can be a representation of an ideology, but without the ideology it's a meaningless scribble. It's also not really worth talking about hand symbols because of the plausible deniability. You could probably photograph me in that hand position, without me being part of any occult org, just by happenstance.

Some instances of it are obvious signal/code/ritual (and the meaning/relevance is unknown or conjecture) while its established speech/bodylanguage/leadership coaches teach people to do that kind of shit because it makes them feel more confident.
Doing it for photo ops is the former, doing it at some kind of public speaking event or in a situation where the person might be nervous in a public situation is pretty typical of the latter.
Its some of the weaker schizo material floating around. Unfortunate, because its always included with the better material, and it generally detracts from the credibility of better material more than it adds to it.
One thing that I think has the most credibility that fuckery is afoot is how these people develop close connections with other media/influence/public official types. Andrey Korikov, the "demon possessed" Stalin appreciator, works in digital/social media marketing, a co-founder of Veritas Creative Media (no relation to Project Veritas). I would expect the daughter of a professor to run in the same circles as kids of other professors (Jordan's expected colleagues and professional circle), instead Jordan is hanging out with Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro, and the daughter is connected to social media marketers and Andrew Tate?
That doesn't add up right.

 

[The Hardest R]

The Lobster King has never pretended he wasn’t a glownigger. He’s always said that his job is to be a gatekeeper to prevent young white men from going over to the right. His rise cohencided with the rise of the alt right. Prior to this he was some goofball academic. There’s nothing he did that prompted his meteoric rise as his 12 Rules book was generic self help garbage that didn’t have anything original. Telling young men to start by doing something small by washing your penis wasn’t new. But he’s always been there to go to bat for Israel, which is why it made sense for him to get hired by The Daily Wire.

 

[NoBueno]

Some instances of it are obvious signal/code/ritual (and the meaning/relevance is unknown or conjecture) while its established speech/bodylanguage/leadership coaches teach people to do that kind of shit because it makes them feel more confident.
Doing it for photo ops is the former, doing it at some kind of public speaking event or in a situation where the person might be nervous in a public situation is pretty typical of the latter.
Its some of the weaker schizo material floating around. Unfortunate, because its always included with the better material, and it generally detracts from the credibility of better material more than it adds to it.
One thing that I think has the most credibility that fuckery is afoot is how these people develop close connections with other media/influence/public official types. Andrey Korikov, the "demon possessed" Stalin appreciator, works in digital/social media marketing, a co-founder of Veritas Creative Media (no relation to Project Veritas). I would expect the daughter of a professor to run in the same circles as kids of other professors (Jordan's expected colleagues and professional circle), instead Jordan is hanging out with Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro, and the daughter is connected to social media marketers and Andrew Tate?
That doesn't add up right.

Jordan Peterson knows how the mystery schools work

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

The Lobster King has never pretended he wasn’t a glownigger. He’s always said that his job is to be a gatekeeper to prevent young white men from going over to the right. His rise cohencided with the rise of the alt right. Prior to this he was some goofball academic.

I don't remember the specifics, but pre-COVID when he was still relevant, Jordan would mention in passing that he did work for the UN in some capacity pre-2016 pronoun dissenter fame.

Which is a little bit odd for a dumpy, on-the-verge-of-tears Psych prof from Toronto and Harvard.

Edit: Found this video and blog from 2019

Source

Not sure of the date of the clip or who the hosts were. It was posted in 2019.

In the clip, Peterson calls himself a "media whore", so presumably it's after his pronoun fame.

He:

- was a "business consultant", doing "executive coaching for senior partners at big law firms"
- ran a "testing business" for the world's biggest early stage technology incubator in California called the Founder Institute. "They've started 2k business in the last 5 years and I've screened all 30k of their entrants because I know how to predict entrepreneurial abiliity".
- he contributed to the U.N. Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development in or before 2013 where he "rewrote the underlying narrative to strip out the ideological claptrap"

From the same site, an unsourced Peterson biography

Raised and toughened in the frigid wastelands of Northern Alberta, Dr. Peterson has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stuntplane, piloted a mahogany racing sailboat around Alcatraz Island, explored an Arizona meteorite crater with a group of astronauts, built a Native American Long-House on the upper floor of his Toronto home, and been inducted into a Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw family (see charlesjoseph.ca). He’s been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short-order cook, beekeeper, oil derrick bit re-tipper, plywood mill laborer and railway line worker. He’s taught mythology to physicians, lawyers, and businessmen; worked with Jim Balsillie, former CEO of Blackberry’s Research in Motion, on Resilient People, Resilient Planet,

TL; DW - Peterson was connected to Bay Street senior law firm types (Canuck version of Wall Street), was involved in Silicon Valley venture capital stuff and claims to have been rewriting UN Climate Change reports long before he went Internet Famous.

He very well could be a groomed Peter Thiel glowie type similar to JD Vance.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Why do you think they do it?

I can not discern why they do make their hand gestures, because I can't identify the they mentioned from the not-they, because people who are not part of the they make the same hand gesture from time to time. They can be photographed in the same position. So I end up with a group that anyone can be put into eventually, meaning the grouping itself is irrelevant.

You didn't listen? The karmic debt is on you now

I've read the ideas before. There is no karmic debt on me for not challenging people for making hand signals. There'd be some kind of debt if I looked away indifferently from child rape or murder, or the people that produce tranny propaganda and so on. There'd be guilt, the evil of letting evil people do evil things and so on.

What would be the karmic debt of looking away from people making hand symbols be? Explain it. How would that karmic debt work in practical terms. Would it have the same effect if people looked away from people making that hand symbol my chance or happenstance?

 

[NoBueno]

I can not discern why they do make their hand gestures, because I can't identify the they mentioned from the not-they, because people who are not part of the they make the same hand gesture from time to time. They can be photographed in the same position. So I end up with a group that anyone can be put into eventually, meaning the grouping itself is irrelevant.



I've read the ideas before. There is no karmic debt on me for not challenging people for making hand signals. There'd be some kind of debt if I looked away indifferently from child rape or murder, or the people that produce tranny propaganda and so on. There'd be guilt, the evil of letting evil people do evil things and so on.

What would be the karmic debt of looking away from people making hand symbols be? Explain it. How would that karmic debt work in practical terms. Would it have the same effect if people looked away from people making that hand symbol my chance or happenstance?

The requirement is that is has to be mass broadcast. Some obscure article isn't broadcast. You need major movies, major figures, major TV series. That's the loophole. Even Alex Jones, the biggest conspiracy jockey out there. You don't believe him? Because he acts insane? That's the loophole You don't believe others broadcast? Because the mainstream discredited them? That's the loophole. You don't believe a movie? Because it's just a movie? That's the loophole.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

The requirement is that is has to be mass broadcast. Some obscure article isn't broadcast. You need major movies, major figures, major TV series. That's the loophole. Even Alex Jones, the biggest conspiracy jockey out there. You don't believe him? Because he acts insane? That's the loophole You don't believe others broadcast? Because the mainstream discredited them? That's the loophole. You don't believe a movie? Because it's just a movie? That's the loophole

if you can't answer questions about it, it means you understand nothing about it.

You ignored my questions so you're just repeating something you read or making it up, in either case without any understanding.

Want to prove me wrong? Answer the questions.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

was a "business consultant", doing "executive coaching for senior partners at big law firms"
- ran a "testing business" for the world's biggest early stage technology incubator in California called the Founder Institute. "They've started 2k business in the last 5 years and I've screened all 30k of their entrants because I know how to predict entrepreneurial abiliity".
- he contributed to the U.N. Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development in or before 2013 where he "rewrote the underlying narrative to strip out the ideological claptrap"

Tbh this all just sounds like your typical academic grandstanding, or any grandstanding. Like someone making coffee calling themselves a "CEO (chief energy officer) contributing to the quarterly productivity figures through timely quality control and product delivery."

Reviewing documents for the U.N. is something thousands of people do, on a variety of topics they are, at best, experts in, and more commonly, simply mildly well known in with regards to their field regardless of competence.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Reviewing documents for the U.N. is something thousands of people do, on a variety of topics they are, at best, experts in, and more commonly, simply mildly well known in with regards to their field regardless of competence.

Agreed.

Peterson giving his own bio on this podcast somewhere between 2016 & 2019 informed me that Peterson was more connected with the elites and globohomo than he first let on when he simply profiled himself in 2016 as a humble U of T Psych prof fighting it out with danger hairs in college quads over they/thems.

The fact that he was rubbing elbows with Canadian senior law firm partners & CEOs while simultaneously being involved with Silicon Valley VC types long before he became a YT & Twitter star suggests astroturfing, controlled op and potential glowie angles moreso than having his name on a list of hundreds of authors on some UN Climate Change doc a decade plus ago.

I used to watch Peterson do panel shows on his local equivalent of PBS years before he went viral. He was a sniveling bitch back then too that talked tough but inevitably broke down crying every appearance long before the Ruskie brainscrambling op.

He certainly didn't come off back then as some titan of industry.

 

[NoBueno]

if you can't answer questions about it, it means you understand nothing about it.

You ignored my questions so you're just repeating something you read or making it up, in either case without any understanding.

Want to prove me wrong? Answer the questions.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

too much crying

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

Complete speculation, but he did talk for a living before going viral, namely as a university lecturer. But also other roles such as a media personality (on Canadian public television), making video content for his Maps of Meaning and Self-Authoring work, clinical psychology work with patients, doing private coaching with senior law firm bigwigs.

It's possible that talking all the time, particularly projecting in front of undergrad classes or giving talks on stages, caused some vocal cord strain with nodule development as sometimes seen in professional singers.

Though presumably singers that get vocal cord injuries are putting a lot more high-level strain on their voicebox much more frequently in comparison.

 

[The Hardest R]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

Estrogen poisoning

 

[El Goblina]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

Aposematism.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

Snipped

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Dude doesn't even want to take the first step of dealing with the problem.

In other words he refuses to clean his room.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Does anyone know why Peterson's voice is so shrill?

All jokes aside, he doesn't sound so shrill in earlier videos of his lectures. I think he did a lot of public speaking and did not do anything to protect his voice. Not everyone is a freak of nature like Robert Smith who sounds the exact same today like he did in 1979.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The Monarchist Spoon decided to take the piss out of Peterson and Lindsey in one vlog.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

All jokes aside, he doesn't sound so shrill in earlier videos of his lectures. I think he did a lot of public speaking and did not do anything to protect his voice. Not everyone is a freak of nature like Robert Smith who sounds the exact same today like he did in 1979.

They generally don't teach anything to academics about public speaking, much less the mechanics of how to do it, so a lot of them end up with thrashed voices by their 50s-60s. Learning how to properly speak from the chest is a godsend, even if many people mock those whose public speaking voices are very different from their conversational voice.

I can't say I blame them, the best sources are drama and vocal music instructors and usually you have to take the class because their written materials are ass, and it's usually chock full of woo.