US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Delany's Donkey]

What if they're darker than an Italian but fucking love the bacon cheeseburger and thank you for it?

then you give them the recipe and put them on the boat.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

The she-boon on the SCotUS came out and said some rather silly things in her little speech yesterday. I mean we all know she hates Trump and will always rule against him no matter what but she just came out and said it.

Quote:

Jackson spoke of “the elephant in the room” and rhetoric from the White House “designed to intimidate the judiciary”.

“ Across the nation, judges are facing increased threats of not only physical violence, but also professional retaliation just for doing our jobs,” said Jackson, according to the New York Times. “And the attacks are not random. They seem designed to intimidate  those of us who serve in this critical capacity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/01/trump-supreme-court-venezuelans-protected-status

The justice’s comments are the most direct criticism of the Trump administration by a supreme court justice since the US chief justice, John Roberts, rebuked the Trump administration in March for pushing for the impeachment of a federal judge. Jackson made the remarks at a judicial conference in Puerto Rico.

Pretty standard Democrat Party line stuff but she should know better then to just come out and say it openly. The SCotUS is supposed to be unbiased but when one of the judges comes and sez the Whitehouse is trying to intimidate the judiciary and she won't stand for it...well I guess you can take the nigger out of the Hood but you can't take the Hood out of the nigger.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/02/supreme-courrt-ketanji-brown-jackson-trump-speech

Not that anything will happen, removing a SCotUS is practically speaking impossible unless they gun someone down in the street in front of the news media and even then which every side the justice was on would be loathe to vote for impeachment.

 

[Breadbassket]

This really does become such a meandering topic. Like it's funny to see people argue if the Founding Fathers would be conservative and liberal. And liberals will claim they would be on their side unless they want to harp on about Slavery.

Love reading about Thomas Jefferson, he was the most colorful President of the OGs. Liberals like to point out how he supported the French Revolution (which was what Marx essentially lifted wholesale conceptually). They ignore that Jefferson was put off entirely by the Reign of Terror. Is Napoleon considered Right/Far Right because he opposed the Jacobins? Do we then ignore that Napoleonic Code was one of the most progressive government reforms?

Jefferson is a very interesting figure, very much a flawed idealist visionary to an extent. A very complicated man for sure who on one hand wrote the Declaration of Independence (even though its most famous part these days is endlessly removed from its original context), is the origin of the notorious Liberty Tree quote and of course was a President meanwhile on the other he predicted the Civil War to come (Jefferson personally wanted to emancipate and deport Black slaves somewhere else), his "separation of church and state" statement has been a headache (this is something after his time which to be fair during the time he was alive there were actual state churches in the 13 Colonies) and supported immigration for political reasons while wanting primarily more English settlers to come to the United States. He also had the idea of the Constitution "lapsing" after 19 years have past which practically would be very difficult to implement and also had the view of keeping the Army small which came back to be an issue in the War of 1812.

A lot of the modern issues with Jefferson is that his words have been twisted to fit the purpose of others but if a present day liberal met him they'd probably find that he would be a hardcore racist reactionary with maybe some views on religion they can agree on and the only thing making him left-wing at all is his support of republican governments (which is fitting because the original left-wing/right-wing spectrum was for pro-republicanism and pro-monarchy respectively). With all that in mind, ultimately despite his own faults, he is no doubt an American icon due to his deeds and will remain one until the end of time that's for sure.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

I might be willing to listen to the 'fascism isn't right wing' people more if that opinion wasn't basically on the same tier of cope as lolbertarian age of consent arguments

 

[Oeselian Chad]

Is Napoleon considered Right/Far Right because he opposed the Jacobins?

Wtf do you mean? He was a Jacobin, and was almost executed for it after Robespierre got beheaded and Jacobins came under heavy scrutiny. And yes, post Egypt Napoleon is definitely a right wing icon, his world views on the revolution, brown people and republics had changed, he was autistic, he did away with a lot of the bullshit of the revolution, he brought back the monarchy, he centralized the power, he put niggers back in chains, was anti semitic cause he ran his own central bank and censored the kike owned newspapers and most importantly was the coolest retard to ever live and thus I claim him for us.

Do we then ignore that Napoleonic Code was one of the most progressive government reforms?

No. The Progressiveness of the code was in completely doing away with the heavily regionalized and overly complicated feudal case law system that had only been patched and made worse under the republic, instead replacing it with a new efficient codex that standardized lawfare across France, that was much simpler to understand for the common man, also made most men equal in front of the law, no more nobility or clergy bullshit, and also took away the right of judges to make up new bullshit laws via case law (which btw JD or any white house staff reading this, Trump totally needs to copy Napoleon on this, the codex was based and case law is infact complete bullshit, the job of a judge is to keep law, not make it. That's the job of the legislative branch), and didn't include any religious bullshit.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

You ever noticed how china spends so much money and energy on mega projects? Like genuinely it is crazy just how much china burns on that stuff, and yet despite those mega projects they still have housing problems. So why would the ccp waste so much resources on projects that I wat benefit the Chinese people? Well its simple those mega projects, those cool buildings, or trains or structures, they aren't done to help people, they are propaganda, they exist so that Western commiefags can soyjack point at the cool structure and show how advanced the chinks are. As long as you ignore the population and housing problems of course.

 

[Oeselian Chad]

What if they're darker than an Italian but fucking love the bacon cheeseburger and thank you for it?

Get some soap and try to rub it off, and if its not just someone doing blackface, deport

 

[King George III]

they are propaganda, they exist so that Western commiefags can soyjack

Basically same thing with Tier 1 cities, just ignore the state of the rest of China, yang guizi.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Has Trump appointed any judges yet in his second term?

 

[Terrifik]

Journo claims that we are on the brink of solving all of the issues the world has if not for that evil drumpfler and his cronies trying to throw it away.
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The United approach was making people dumb on nuclear Energy for net zero Greta intiative.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

This is not evidence

I understand it is not evidence, however I have a moral and ethical standpoint not to enable the mentally retarded from doing things that even they are capable of doing such as checking a social media feed. So you're just going to have to check up on it on your own.

 

[Breadbassket]

Has Trump appointed any judges yet in his second term?

He has nominated one, that's it so far.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Basically same thing with Tier 1 cities, just ignore the state of the rest of China, yang guizi.

Or even the street level. They built all those skywalk streets because poor people aren’t allowed up and they needed a sanitized place to film.

It’s like Alita Battle Angel, except up top instead of the proverbial excelsiite pleasure domes, you have a regular city with extra LED lights

 

[pwnest injun]

A war with Iran would last decades and end in defeat if we try to turn those cousin-fuckers into a 1st-world democracy. It would end quickly if the victory condition was to disestablish the Ayatollahs and make them sign a treaty agreeing to end all liaisons with militant Shia groups in other countries. Then you walk away and let them rebuild their own mess, warning them you'll be back for more if they fuck around.

Our finest pencil dicks in the DoD estimate that a war with Iran would take appx 23 days until their ability to make war was completely eliminated and their leadership was cast out. Wrecking shit has never been a problem. It's everything else, all the spillover effects.

I don't even know what Fascism is supposed to mean at this point when you have scholars claiming that the USA is under a fascist government because of Trump. I mean excuse me we're still one of the freest countries to ever exist in history and deporting illegals doesn't merit the designation of fascist in my eyes.

I think Authoritarian is more more important and clearly defined. I'm virulently against anything Authoritarian.

I think that fascism, as envisioned by the people who created the term to describe their own political philosophy, is best defined by what they think of as the essential human unit - Who you owe your duty to.

So on the far end, you have individualists who think that every man is, in fact, an island. The libertarian who wouldn't help his brother unless he could see the upside.

Then there are tribalists (for lack of a better word) who think that family is the essential unit. You saclifice for sake of famiry and cran.

Next are fascists who believe that the state/nation is the cohesive unit of human organization. Everything for the state, nothing outside of the state. You're not a person, you're an Italian. And if you aren't Italian enough, you better get Italian before we make you Italian.

Finally, there are communists that think that all of humanity is a single collective to be put to a single purpose. People think that fascism is left wing because communists are galaxy brain retards who never even come close to living their ideology so they just settle for a fascist leading them and they say it's the first step toward their ideology being realized. See the Han Chinese fashing it up in "communist" China.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

He has nominated one, that's it so far.

He better have more planned.

 

[The Noise]

The rallying of support behind that one White mother who called that pedophile somalian a nigger makes me think that blacks are going to have a really, really, really bad time when the boomers are no longer there to protect them.

 

[The Nothingness]

Which Republican senator do you think will side with the Democrats to keep the SAVE Act from passing?

 

[Exterminatus]

Which Republican senator will you think sides with the Democrats to keep the SAVE Act from passing?

Rand Paul and Mitch the Bitch are the frontrunners I think, they bring shame to the bluegrass state

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I understand it is not evidence, however I have a moral and ethical standpoint not to enable the mentally retarded from doing things that even they are capable of doing such as checking a social media feed. So you're just going to have to check up on it on your own.

"I believe something and have no evidence for it beyond my magical thinking." Gotcha.

 

[Jinn in the phone]

The justice’s comments are the most direct criticism of the Trump administration by a supreme court justice since the US chief justice, John Roberts, rebuked the Trump administration in March for pushing for the impeachment of a federal judge. Jackson made the remarks at a judicial conference in Puerto Rico.

Why is a conference for the 1st Ciruit federal courts being held in Puerto Rico? We have jurisdiction but that'd be like having a federal level conference in Alaska, or Hawaii. It's only vaguely made better by the fact it's less remote than those two. I'm sure the judges want a business vacation and the Puerto Ricans are happy for more American Dinero but aren't these people supposed to be pissing their pants about climate change? I know even if they held it in Pensylvania or some shit they'd still find driving a couple hours beneath them but come on.