Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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Re(Runner)48 said:
Didn't they make totally spies, Martin mysteries, 6teen, and Kappa Mikey?
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Going off of a quick search, it's a mix.
Totally Spies was entirely French-made obviously before briefly being co-produced by Canadians (specifically Image Entertainment Corporation from S3-S5), the Martin one was a joint production between France and Canada from the jump, Kappa Mikey is an entirely American thing, and 6teen is full Canadian.

Canadian animation is strange. Most made for TV animation basically has to look cheaply made off of weird production laws and little sticks out as good, yet EEnE is fantastic and some independently made projects supported by NFB look decent to great.
 
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Thanks for that. I assumed because of the artstyle it was a Canadian thing. As it gave me alot of the bootleg vibes Canadians were making that time. Trying to appeal to the anime tropes that got hot in the early 2000's
Bankingway said:
Kappa Mikey is an entirely American thing, and 6teen is full Canadian.
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Chromeo said:
One of the 6teen characters is even in the Total Drama Babies show (I don't think that's the title but I don't care to learn the actual title)
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The said character is Jude, and the Babies show is called Total DramaRama, which got 3 seasons. His voice actor, Christian Potenza, who also voices Chris McLean in Total Drama, got replaced in the Total Drama reboot with Terry McGurrin, who voiced Jonesy in 6teen and Don in Total Drama's Ridonculous Race spin-off show, because of what turned out to be a false sexual harassment (?) accusation against Potenza.

The creators of 6teen and Total Drama, FreshTV, also created another show called Stoked, but it didn't catch on as well as their other two shows, and did so poorly that Cartoon Network didn't air the 2nd season of it in the US.
 
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Why do autistics hate Pingu but love Thomas the tank engine?
 
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"Keep the yaoi train rolling!" - Very ugly marketing, BUT - who is the target audience? Perhaps I'm missing something, but everything within this project is said, drawn and formulated (The project description and advertisement text) as if it's for children (Or adults in the west became more immature?), yet open sodomy is something the creators wish to include.

This is a broad issue with modern independent animation, I think - not just the gayness, but the lack of clear demographic that the project will be forwarded to. Just because it's easy I'll use "Helluva Boss" as an example - because the show attempted to tackle complex topics and generally keep a more mature athmosphere, but the team ended up with overdesigned furries swearing and joking about sex. Not mature and frequently watched by teenagers, essentially.
 
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SoleniyKraut said:
Just because it's easy I'll use "Helluva Boss" as an example - because the show attempted to tackle complex topics and generally keep a more mature athmosphere, but the team ended up with overdesigned furries swearing and joking about sex. Not mature and frequently watched by teenagers, essentially.
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I wonder if The Office's style of humor was lost on Millennial writers, thinking about it. There's similarities with a vast cast of weirdoes in various stages of arrested development in Michael's attempt to make the office space be more of a "family unit" while trying to keep them from going under. Problem is, Millennials want every character to be a snarky quirky smartass when not everyone in The Office was like that.

Also The Office has a teenage/Zoomer following, many of whom are also Helluva Boss' audience. Something I've noticed.

But yeah, the lack of an actual demographic to aim for is a huge issue since it's clearly Millennials still believing we're in the "animation age ghetto" so they think making a kids' show with adult themes is the way to do it. And as a result, it's likely that all of the showrunners are 50/50 groomers and legitimately socially retarded.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
I wonder if The Office's style of humor was lost on Millennial writers, thinking about it. There's similarities with a vast cast of weirdoes in various stages of arrested development in Michael's attempt to make the office space be more of a "family unit" while trying to keep them from going under. Problem is, Millennials want every character to be a snarky quirky smartass when not everyone in The Office was like that.
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They liked the humour, but they do not understand it's technicalities. The issue with characters you outlined is true, I think. I haven't watched enough millenial slop to comment on it more meaningfully, but I've noticed it. Can't think of an example off the top of my head.

Kari Kamiya said:
But yeah, the lack of an actual demographic to aim for is a huge issue since it's clearly Millennials still believing we're in the "animation age ghetto" so they think making a kids' show with adult themes is the way to do it. And as a result, it's likely that all of the showrunners are 50/50 groomers and legitimately socially retarded.
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I think they overestimate their own writing prowess, and the comprehension of a potential viewer. They try to be profound, to somehow show that they've matured; Yet most millenial creations are very surface-level in their messaging, and the execution of them in animation also leaves much to be desired (In the realm of the type of animation we're talking about). Also the industry encouraged them to just dump their psychological or social issues into their works - I.E the people watching will have to observe the creator's childhood trauma (As real or imagined it might be)

[Examples from popular shows: If anyone remembers - SVTFOE was Daron Nefcy's way of reliving highschool as a retarded Sailor Moon knockoff; Steven Universe was a show where the writers used fetishes as basis for episodes and promoted their political ideas to the supposed child audience; Gravity False, aside from shitty "Deep" lore was Alex Hirschenstein expressing his grievance over Lauren Faust ending up with Craig McCracken; I could go on!]

They do not understand how to objectively analyze a concept, and only view it through their own perspective - therefore cannot emphatise with other people. And because of that their shows end up being geared towards perverts like them - nobody but their lot can relate to their life situation.
 
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Life is Hell... said:
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How these folks actually managed to raise 90k in a matter of weeks for their shitty fujoshi cartoon is completely beyond me...
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My money's on them taking the money and running, or doing the I'M WORKIN ON IT shit for like a decade until it finally gets quietly released to an audience that no longer gives a shit. Kinda like Bee and Puppycat.

SoleniyKraut said:
[Examples from popular shows: If anyone remembers - SVTFOE was Daron Nefcy's way of reliving highschool as a retarded Sailor Moon knockoff; Steven Universe was a show where the writers used fetishes as basis for episodes and promoted their political ideas to the supposed child audience; Gravity False, aside from shitty "Deep" lore was Alex Hirschenstein expressing his grievance over Lauren Faust ending up with Craig McCracken; I could go on!]
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Don't forget the She-Ra reboot's characters being flat as a board as a way for Noelle Stevenston to cope about wanting to chop her tits off. Or The Owl House's main character being supposedly based on Dana Terrace's old college roommate, with Amity being the most blatant self-insert of Terrace. Seriously, look at images comparing the two's hair at the time. And I guess Alex Hirsch is such a cuck that it didn't bother him whatsoever.

Also! That Powerpuff Girls reboot's kike writer giving himself a self-insert for Blossom's boyfriend with a name as equally Jewish as his real one.
 
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