Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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I think he’ll show up to the meeting but he’s not gonna be happy about it. Maybe he’ll actually loose his shit instead of sitting there seething and imagining the Morgan freeman owl giving him advice,
Russ is well past Morgan Freeman Owl and has probably switched things up to Rekeitas Ceiling Cats.

I assume Russ wanders the highways and byways of Vegas muttering incoherently and seething. Arguing his plights with the Universe.
 
He'll do what he always does when losing in court. He'll sit and fume silently.
The most brutal thing they can do is put him on the stand (or speaker in this case) and force him to explain himself. Not even for the fact he can barely talk either. There's a degree of separation when everything is in writing, but he'll crumble if he has to talk through his fillings because of his tenuous understanding of the law and people objectively judging him.
 
The most brutal thing they can do is put him on the stand (or speaker in this case) and force him to explain himself. Not even for the fact he can barely talk either. There's a degree of separation when everything is in writing, but he'll crumble if he has to talk through his fillings because of his tenuous understanding of the law and people objectively judging him.

I actually think Greer talking through his filings will be his strongest showing at the hearing. He doesn't know how the law works, doesn't want to learn it, refuses to believe it when it says something opposite what he wants, and can not comprehend proper legal responses to anything an opponent files. The only thing he puts thought into is his own filings, and those are the only points he'll be able to coherently talk about. It won't be insightful, it'll just be a regurgitation of what he's already filed, but at least he'll be able to speak.

If he has to respond to anything Hardin argues, he will break down and stutter to a halt. You saw this in the scheduling conference, Russ couldn't muster a meaningful reply to anything Hardin said. He just repeated what he filed and agreed with the judge. His only ability to respond is to object to anything Hardin wants, like the 100 interrogatories, and he doesn't know why he objects; he just objects because if Buddy Boy wants it, then Russ doesn't want him to have it. Greer could not recall and cite a legal principle in his own defense if his life depended on it.

So, there's 2 Greer motions on the agenda, and 5 Hardin motions. My prediction is Greer will prepare a minimally sufficient, very whining recap for his 2 motions; and he'll "prepare" a single objecting response for each of Hardin's 5. If Hardin or the judge swats aside Greer's Goggle Scholar-suggested point, he's going to be completely helpless, reduced to whining about fairness and harassment. All Hardin has to do is get any argument into Step 2, and Russ will be completely lost.
 
So, there's 2 Greer motions on the agenda, and 5 Hardin motions. My prediction is Greer will prepare a minimally sufficient, very whining recap for his 2 motions; and he'll "prepare" a single objecting response for each of Hardin's 5. If Hardin or the judge swats aside Greer's Goggle Scholar-suggested point, he's going to be completely helpless, reduced to whining about fairness and harassment. All Hardin has to do is get any argument into Step 2, and Russ will be completely lost.
I hope Hardin objects to any plightsperging or anything else resembling testifying instead of arguing. If he had called himself as a witness, Hardin would have deposed him. He doesn't get to evade the deposition process by putting his testimony in the form of plightsperging about facts not in evidence.
 
Where will the zoom link appear when it starts? Are there plans to compile notes to form a coherent protocol of the meeting (we are allowed to do that right?)
I don't think there is an open invite to proceedings. IIRC links will be sent to parties' emails.
 
Where will the zoom link appear when it starts? Are there plans to compile notes to form a coherent protocol of the meeting (we are allowed to do that right?)
I don't think there is an open invite to proceedings. IIRC links will be sent to parties' emails.
According to CourtListener Bennett's order was silent on how, where, etc. he would provide the link and whether the hearing would be open to the public. Given that we are about two calendar days/one and a half working days from the hearing that is probably code for 'closed to the public' unless his IT staff are incompetent. (ETA: Even if this is an IT screwup I'm sure he is happy to not deal with autists on the call).

If he does allow people to listen in, this is a friendly reminder to be on your best behavior - he doesn't like Mr. Hardin now, he just dislikes Russ even more and even the appearance of weenery could mess that up.
 
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Bennett's order was silent on how, where, etc. he would provide the link and whether it would be open to the public. Given that we are about two calendar days/one and a half working days from the hearing that is probably code for 'closed to the public' unless his IT staff are incompetent.

Where did the link come from last time, in November?

Edit: I think it's updated daily here.
 
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