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Should be a wild four years.

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That’s always been a problem I’ve had with Star Wars on a narrative level, you never see the empire do anything actually evil. The closest is destroying Alderaan, but they were harboring rebels and actively working to topple the government, by all means treason. The people of tattooine didn’t seem particularly oppressed by the empire either, and they’re the only civilization we actually get to see. And clearly Lando was still able to have a political career on Bespin.
It really just boils down to hatred of the color red, the color black, and the concept of an empire in general
There was actually a deleted scene from the original movie where Luke's friend Biggs talks about the Empire nationalizing commerce and taking over farmland from private citizens.
I guess they edited it out because they thought people talking about economics in their space adventure movie was boring, but it's actually decent world building for why a normal citizen might resent the Empire.


Remember how Delaware endangered its position as America's corporate headquarters by getting in a legal slapfight with Elon Musk?
That's exactly what they did. They get 27.6% of their state budget from incorporation revenue. Imagine putting all that at risk after the shareholders voted twice for the same thing.

Delaware Law Has Entered the Culture War
The New York Times (archive.ph)
First, Elon Musk started railing against Delaware, which for more than a century has been known as the home of corporate law, after the Delaware Chancery Court chancellor, Kathaleen McCormick, rejected his lofty pay package last year.

Eventually he switched where Tesla is incorporated to Texas.

Now, Dropbox has announced shareholder approval to move where it is incorporated to outside Delaware, and Meta is considering following suit. Others are also evaluating whether to make the move, DealBook hears.

Musk’s ire against the state where nearly 70 percent of Fortune 500 companies are incorporated brought what would usually be an esoteric issue to the national stage and framed it, alongside hot button issues like diversity, equity and inclusion programs, as one further example of overreach.

“You can blame McCormick or you can blame Musk — or you can say it’s a combination of the two of them — but it has turned it into a highly ideologically charged political issue, which it never, ever was before,” said Robert Anderson, a professor at the University of Arkansas School of Law.

The drama over court rulings could have huge consequences for the economy and politics of Delaware, which counts on corporate franchise revenue for about 30 percent of its budget — and more, if you count secondary impacts like tax payments generated by the legal industry.

At issue is a longstanding question in corporate America: How much say should minority shareholders have, especially in a controlled company? One side argues that founders like Mark Zuckerberg are given controlling shares, which give them outsize influence in a company, with the belief that they know what is best for a company. And minority shareholders buy into a company knowing their limitations. The other side argues these controlling shareholders are not perfect.

The disagreement has now been amplified as founders have become increasingly comfortable voicing their own views loudly. At a time when Trump has promised reduced government regulation, they’d also like to minimize the power of minority shareholders in corporate governance.

This isn’t the first time Delaware has come under heat. Phil Shawe, the chief executive of the language and business services company TransPerfect, mounted a multiyear campaign against Delaware after the court effectively seized his business during a fight with his former partner and co-owner. That campaign included a lawsuit against one of the Delaware court judges, a $2 million advertising campaign and support for a $1 million PAC opposing Bethany Hall-Long, a candidate for governor last year, arguing that Hall-Long had “failed to support judicial diversity” in her time as state lieutenant governor. (Hall-Long lost in the Democratic primary.)

But Musk has made the spotlight brighter. McCormick, who first sparred with Musk over his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter, rejected the entrepreneur’s massive compensation in January, arguing that shareholders had not been properly informed and that Tesla’s board members were not sufficiently independent. In December, she again ruled against the package, even after shareholders showed their support by voting in favor of it.

That latter decision, in particular, got some pushback from the legal community. And, unsurprisingly, Musk and Tesla shareholders descended. “Absolute corruption,” Musk wrote of the decision.

Other blows followed. In a major decision last year, a Delaware court’s vice chancellor, J. Travis Laster, ruled that company boards cannot contractually hand over power on key issues — like deals and executive compensation — to a shareholder. That ruling, which centered on the power bequeathed by board members to Ken Moelis, the controlling shareholder of the investment bank Moelis, put Delaware and its advisers into a tizzy.

Then, in an extraordinary move, the legislature effectively undid that decision, passing an amendment this summer that allowed companies to enter such agreements. A heated debate over that amendment on the floor of the state legislature soon evolved into a contentious argument about the direction of Delaware’s corporate law.

“Right now, the corporate market is not feeling good about Delaware,” a former state judge, William Chandler, said on the House floor, pinning that sentiment on “the uncertainty and unpredictability of a few decisions by just two judges,” referring to McCormick and Laster.
They've pushed through a bill to stop businesses from leaving, although it's hard to tell if it's worked or not:

Companies continue to consider reincorporation. Does this mean trouble for Delaware? (Archive)

Another company has threatened to move its legal headquarters out of Delaware, even after sweeping corporate law changes were made to protect corporate directors.

Eighty percent of all publicly traded companies come to Delaware for its judicial expertise in business dealings and corporate-friendly tax code, but is a mass exodus really upon the state?
Here’s what to know.

Affirm Holdings considers reincorporation​


According to GuruFocus, financial technology company Affirm Holdings is reportedly contemplating reincorporating its business from Delaware to either Nevada or Texas.

The company’s CEO, Max Levchin, co-founded PayPal and worked with Elon Musk, whose publicly aired disagreements with Delaware’s Court of Chancery attempted to fuel a movement for corporations to leave Delaware.

In recent months, a number of other companies have expressed interest in moving legal headquarters from Delaware to states like Nevada.

AMC Networks, which owns and operates the AMC cable channel, as well as Madison Square Garden’s Entertainment company cited the increasing franchise tax obligations and uncertainty in judiciary rulings as drivers for reincorporation.

“By re-domesticating the company from Delaware to Nevada, we believe we will be better suited to take advantage of business opportunities and that Nevada law can better provide for our ever-changing business needs and lower our ongoing administrative expenses,” AMC Networks’ proxy statement says.

Other companies like DropBox and Roblox also are in the process of reincorporating to Nevada. Walmart and Meta, which owns Facebook, have reportedly expressed similar desires to leave Delaware, but no progress has been made on their fronts.

What started this pattern?​

Delaware’s corporate laws, usually precedented by Delaware Court of Chancery's rulings, dictate how controlling stockholders or Delaware-incorporated companies can cut deals. The speed and expertise of the court is one of the primary reasons companies choose to incorporate in Delaware in the first place.

“Delaware has been famous for its corporate law and its appeal to companies because you could pretty much always count on it doing a very sensible and balanced thing, even if it wasn’t the thing you wish they would have done,” said Larry Cunningham, , director of the University of Delaware’s Weinberg Center for Corporate Governance. Over the past couple of years, there’s been some debate about if that’s still true.”

The debate in question became inflated after December 2024, when a Delaware Chancery Court judge ruled Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s $56 billion pay package invalid for the second time. The decision sparked Musk to take to social media advising other businesses not to incorporate in Delaware. The ruling against Musk has since been appealed to the Delaware Supreme Court.

A few months later, the Delaware Supreme Court issued a decision in a case within Match Group Inc, which essentially stated that certain protocols must be taken before an “interested transaction,'' that is one that involves a controlling shareholder with a potential conflict of interest, takes place.

This court decision was viewed by many companies with controlling shareholders as a catalyst of distrust in Delaware’s Court of Chancery, proof that the judiciary was not as reliable as it had long been perceived to be.
Since the Match decision, a number of companies have threatened to reincorporate from Delaware to other states, in a mass exodus that became known as ‘'DExit.''

The DExit scare led legislators and Gov. Matt Meyer to pass Senate Bill 21, essentially meant to reverse the Match decision by protecting directors and controlling stockholders in order to coax businesses to remain in the First State.
Senate Bill 21 was passed nearly unanimously and quickly signed by Meyer in March, but was not without controversy.

Email correspondence made available via Freedom of Information Act Request and a report from CNBC found that representatives for companies like Meta and Elon Musk’s legal team were involved in the bill’s drafting. Supporters of the bill said the changes are a necessary course correction that will give corporations’ most powerful managers more predictability and consistency as they consider business transactions.

Opponents argued that the bill would hinder the Chancery Court’s ability to rule over conflicts of interest, allowing business leaders to benefit themselves at the expense of pensioners, retirees and ordinary investors.

Is 'DExit' a real threat?​

Did SB21 fail in its intention to keep corporations in Delaware? The short answer is no, but it may be too soon to tell.

No matter the political and judicial landscape, one pattern has remained the same – companies leave Delaware every year. While exact numbers are hard to track, it’s generally safe to say that companies incorporated in Delaware far exceed companies that don’t.

“No single factor is going to decide what’s best for a company in terms of where to incorporate it,” said Cunningham. “I wouldn’t have expected [SB21] to promptly change any major decisions. It may have played some role, but it could be one in dozens of factors.”

During a Joint Finance Committee Hearing on Feb. 13, Delaware’s Department of State showed that over 80% of IPOs (initial public offerings) are incorporated in Delaware.

According to the presentation, the corporate landscape propped up by Delaware’s Division of Corporations, Courts and General Assembly generated around $2 billion in revenue for the state in 2024 from around 2 million entities incorporated in the state.

A number of the publicly available proxy documents that spell out reasons for leaving Delaware cite increasing franchise tax obligations in the state.

According to the Delaware Division of Revenue, all corporations incorporated in the state have a maximum tax of $200,000 and “large corporate filers” have a tax capped at $250,000. So, even trillion-dollar-companies like Meta pay a maximum of $250,000 in franchise taxes to Delaware - a price that more companies are citing as too high to stay in Delaware.

In terms of the “judicial uncertainty” referenced by many of the corporations threatening to re-incorporate, Cunningham believes the “drama may be overdone.”

“It’s true that businesspeople value certainty when making decisions,” Cunningham said. “I have not detected the pattern that is being described.”
 
That’s always been a problem I’ve had with Star Wars on a narrative level, you never see the empire do anything actually evil.
Mate, I think you should rewatch the movies. Just off the top of my head the Empire:
  • Attacked, boarded, and massacred the crew of a diplomatic ship that had special status just because they were suspected of having Death Star plans on board. Imagine Chinese boarding an airplane with American diplomats and killing them all because they suspect these diplomats were hiding secret Chinese documents on board.
  • Slaughtered an entire clan of Jawas who were unlucky enough to recover the two droids sought by the Empire.
  • Used enhanced interrogation techniques torture of a prisoner (Leia) to get her to reveal the location of the stolen Death Star plans.
  • Murdered Luke's parents.
And yes, committing an act of planetary genocide is not something you can just brush under the carpet. They did not destroy Alderran because the Empire thought they were hiding terrorists.
Once aboard, the young princess was tortured in the hopes that the Empire could extract the location of the Rebel base from her. Organa refused, and the station's commander, Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin, Governor of the Outer Rim Territories, threatened to use the Death Star to destroy Alderaan if she did not comply. Organa provided a false location, and although Tarkin believed her, he nonetheless destroyed Alderaan—and the billions of people living there—to demonstrate the station's power to the galaxy, and in doing so, the price of any type of dissidence.
I stan Empire when I'm in my "ends justify the means" mood and because Rebels are cringe, but to say that we don't see Empire do anything evil in the original trilogy (much less the expanded universe) is absolute BONKERS.
Also reminder that this is NOT WH40k where "Exterminatus" is just another day at the office.

I guess they edited it out because they thought people talking about economics in their space adventure movie was boring, but it's actually decent world building for why a normal citizen might resent the Empire.
And they were right to cut it out because that scene is boring as fuck. I get flashbacks of the lame "trade routes" plot line from Episode 1.
You show an audience someone is being evil bastards because they murder, imprison, and torture. Something everyone understands. Not abstract stuff like economics. I get the point about realism you may be trying to make, but we're discussing the story telling mechanisms in movies.
 
If you steal nuclear weapons plans and hide them on a “diplomatic ship” while on the way to delivering them to some terrorists then the government has no choice but to stop you by any means necessary.
Hell, sometimes you don't even need there to be any "nuclear plans" for 'MURICA to chip out! Hell yeah!!

In the context of Star Wars I will remind you that the Empire had the diplomatic ship COMPLETELY under their own control because they used a tractor beam to move the damaged ship inside the cargo hold of a Star Destroyer that was in pursuit. At this point kicking down the door and killing everyone inside America-style was completely optional.
 
I think we should do like, Roman gladiator-style colosseums or death race-style deadly car races. I wanna be entertained during the executions. And the winners can like, win their freedom maybe.
It would make more sense to copy The Running Man for an idea like this. The Running Man is more in touch with modern pop culture than gladiators or death races, and we could just kill the winners afterwards. If the public found out we were killing the winners instead of letting them go, they probably wouldn't care.
 
It would make more sense to copy The Running Man for an idea like this.
Please don't give Trump any more ideas. There's already a (completely false and unfounded, but funny) rumor going around that he got the idea to reopen Alcatraz because he saw "Escape from Alcatraz" on WLRN (Palm Beach TV station) last Sunday.
Here's Subzero. Now... plain zero!
Back when Arny was the undisputable king of action film sloppa. Love that film.
 
Agreed that wanting to blow a shit ton of money on renovating Alcatraz is retarded, it's a museum that's run down for a reason and it would be way cheaper to expand ADX Florence or build another supermax somewhere else if we really need more prison space for the worst of the worst. I wish he'd focus on shit that matters more often.
I have a happy medium. Why not make Alcatraz into a modern prison and charge people admission to see the wildlife in its natural habitat?
 
Felons: Imprisoned, cold and miserable
San Fagsisco Tourism dollars: Gone.

This is the shit I voted like every election, third party for.

This is actually a terrible idea for a lot of reasons and I hope nothing comes from it other than a study that says "Completely unfeasible to reopen, the resupply alone..." but I also look forward to a lot of liberal sobing and MSNPC crying so I'm in favor of that part

Trump just did a death blow to hollywood and did it by claiming to protect them. Disney films so much shit overseas.
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Now if we can just ban Chinese investment and if China launches counter tariffs so US movies aren't shown in china and thus film makers no longer have to kowtow to the CCP....
 
Europe executed somewhere between 1-2% of men in every generation for centuries. Turns out on a long enough timeline, getting rid of the most anti-social in your population does actually improve things. Not a conversation blank slaters want to have though.
I feel like progress is set back when they kill off like 20% of their finest stock during the world wars though.
 
There was actually a deleted scene from the original movie where Luke's friend Biggs talks about the Empire nationalizing commerce and taking over farmland from private citizens.
I guess they edited it out because they thought people talking about economics in their space adventure movie was boring, but it's actually decent world building for why a normal citizen might resent the Empire.
We removed it because the movie was too long, and it interrupted the flow of action too much. We were already spending too much time on Tatooine.

I didn’t need to use the political mumbo jumbo to explain why the Empire was bad. I accomplished this visually:

The very first scene is a giant fuck-all ship chasing a dinky little cruiser. You immediately knew who the bad guys were even if you didn’t read the scrolling text seconds before.

This is something very wrong with modern cinema. Disney would never give the good guys a small dinky ship to feel sorry for because that’s racist or something. In episodes VIII and IX the Resistance is never really shown to be vulnerable at any point. Sure, the script tries to tell the audience this, but they don’t really believe it. It doesn’t help that the films didn’t bother to even try to plausibly explain why the Galactic politics were the way they were in those movies. Disney took audiences seeing stormtroopers and saying to themselves ‘those are the bad guys’ for granted.
 
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