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The Oasis hate in this thread is genuinely upsetting. Their first two albums rock and Be Here Now is over-hated. It's not terrible, just very bloated. Their later stuff is mediocre but three good albums is more than most rock bands can muster up.
Be Here Now has its moments of pure genius it just needs to be trimmed the fuck down. D'ya Know What I mean didn't need to be 8 minutes, I actually had to make my own mix that made just a little over 4. (and to make it a bit quieter because of how fucking loud the record is)
 
Be Here Now has its moments of pure genius it just needs to be trimmed the fuck down. D'ya Know What I mean didn't need to be 8 minutes, I actually had to make my own mix that made just a little over 4. (and to make it a bit quieter because of how fucking loud the record is)
There were some good ideas on that album that could have made very good songs, but the whole album is drowning in an avalanche of blow. Noel Gallagher said something like "We kept adding more and more things to the songs expecting that someone would come into the room and tell us to stop but nobody every did." Everyone needs an editor, particularly when coked out of their mind (see also: Stephen King).

Be Here Now is one of those albums that becomes not necessarily better, but much more interesting when you know the story behind it and the way it was made. It becomes a sort of cultural artefact of what the people involved were doing and where they were at. St. Anger is also very much like that, once you watch Some Kind of Monster you gain a sort of weird respect for the fact it exists at all and the guys from Metallica got to the end of the recording process without the band breaking up. It's still bad, but the context makes it bad in an interesting way, unlike the boring-bad Metallica albums like Load and Reload. Some very good albums are like that too, Siamese Dream is much more interesting and a deeper listen when you realise it's Billy Corgan sublimating his ongoing nervous breakdown into obsessive guitar layering (the fact that it's also one of the best-mixed albums in the history of rock doesn't hurt either).
 
Sabrina Carpenter freaks me the hell out. She is just so uncanny. It's like a 50's pin up drawing jumped out of the canvas in the worst fucking way possible. I'll never understand her appeal, visually or musically, especially with other women.
She's the female version of safe horny, where she acts like a slut but also talks about how she doesn't like men. She's hypersexual but doesn't do anything sexy.
I think the song "anxiety" which is sampling "Somebody That I Used to Know" by Gotye is a great demonstration that blacks have to use an already existing recorded sound, made by artists of European descent in order to be tolerated in the ears of the mainstream (technically it's a riff from Luiz Bonfá, but Gotye version is the famous version, hence why they picked it)
Another example I keep seeing is that one rap that does nothing to change the melody of Kids from MGMT, but does the generic materialistic rapping.
 
I think people are being far too hard on Katy Perry at the moment. She had some generic pop-slop hits a decade or so ago and traded mostly on her looks then she tries to make a comeback recently by showing off her mommy milkers and doing a cringe space journey PR thing and people start calling her "tone deaf".

She's a pop star doing pop star shit and that's a bad thing now for some reason. I guess she didn't openly wish death on Trump or something so everyone hates her now.
 
Sabrina Carpenter freaks me the hell out. She is just so uncanny. It's like a 50's pin up drawing jumped out of the canvas in the worst fucking way possible. I'll never understand her appeal, visually or musically, especially with other women.
Yeah, she looks like an animated porcelain doll or something. It's weird.

Musically, I kind of understand the appeal. Aside from being obnoxiously loud, the production on her most recent album is outstanding. I actually dig a few of the songs as well, and I'm a middle aged man, so definitely not her target audience. She is legitimately talented, which is refreshing to see from a Pop star post Pro Tools/Auto-tune.
 
Sabrina Carpenter freaks me the hell out. She is just so uncanny. It's like a 50's pin up drawing jumped out of the canvas in the worst fucking way possible. I'll never understand her appeal, visually or musically, especially with other women.

I don't think i've heard a single song this woman has done but i'm a huge fan of hers based on her essentially being a one for one clone of a girl i dated just after i got out of college.

Her appeal is that a lot of dudes like tiny women and i'm sure her songs are about her being a boss bitch or whatever despite barely being 5 feet tall so women like that sort of nonsense.
 
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I think people are being far too hard on Katy Perry at the moment. She had some generic pop-slop hits a decade or so ago and traded mostly on her looks then she tries to make a comeback recently by showing off her mommy milkers and doing a cringe space journey PR thing and people start calling her "tone deaf".

She's a pop star doing pop star shit and that's a bad thing now for some reason. I guess she didn't openly wish death on Trump or something so everyone hates her now.
I agree. And it's really funny that people treat Britney Spears and Justin Bieber as sacred cows now but they're willing to make fun of Katy Perry. It just seems odd to me. Event hough I'm not the biggest fan of her, all this shit-talking just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like, "Haven't I seen/heard this before?"
 
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Country music is pure dog shit.
It's literally all about trucks, shitty beer or having sex with 48 year old, tomato shaded white women.

Folk songs fuck hard though.
You should check out Folk Punk if havent, Daze N Days, Andrew Jackson Jihad, Pat the Bunny, and maybe to some extent The Mountain Goats, you familiar with any of these guys?
 
I agree. And it's really funny that people treat Britney Spears and Justin Bieber as sacred cows now but they're willing to make fun of Katy Perry. It just seems odd to me. Event hough I'm not the biggest fan of her, all this shit-talking just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like, "Haven't I seen/heard this before?"
People are lenient on Britney because she had a public mental breakdown and was under the conservatorship of her father for about 15 years. Britney Spears did not pay to go into space and pretend that she knows better than us/prove how out of touch she is, not only did Katy Perry do this, she got popular as an adult and I don't remember the media hounding her as bad as Britney. Neither of Katy's parents took advantage of her weakened mental state (that she never had) to take control of her assets.

I don't ever remember the media going hard on Katy until now, unlike Britney who's mental breakdown was brought on by the media constantly talking shit. Britney is also not pretending to be more relevant than what she is, Katy is clearly huffing her own farts.
 
I agree. And it's really funny that people treat Britney Spears and Justin Bieber as sacred cows now but they're willing to make fun of Katy Perry. It just seems odd to me. Event hough I'm not the biggest fan of her, all this shit-talking just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like, "Haven't I seen/heard this before?"

And the same people would be the most vocal mourners if she was found dead in a hotel room with a belly full of pills.

I genuinely couldn't give a solitary shit about her music but the way she is being openly mocked by the public is genuinely awful. She's a female artist who is getting on a bit and is struggling to stay relevant and all of the "yass qween" types have responded to this by trying to make a fool out of her for some reason.

I just feel bad for her.
 
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And the same people would be the most vocal mourners if she was found dead in a hotel room with a belly full of pills.

I genuinely couldn't give a solitary shit about her music but the way she is being openly mocked by the public is genuinely awful. She's a female artist who is getting on a bit and is struggling to stay relevant and all of the "yass qween" types have responded to this by trying to make a fool out of her for some reason.

I just feel bad for her.
She's in her 40s and the worst thing that's happened to her is people being mad at her own delusion about how important she is because she bought a ticket to go into space for 10 minutes. There's nothing to feel bad for because she refuses to self-reflect and it will be forgotten within the next week as some else does something stupider.
 
DAWs ruined electronic music. The best electronic music is made with trackers and lofi electoronics. These thousand dollar noise boxes and DAWs like fl studio produce shit, and the only people capable of using them to make good music have prior experience with trackers, lo-fi hardware, or physical instruments.
I’ve heard fantastic things being done with FL Studio - everything Lone does is incredible. It’s very easy to blame modern production, rather than marketing tendencies, for “ruining” the entire music industry - the tools just became smaller and more accessible. Plenty of active and trending producers are centralizing their songwriting process around hardware sequencers, like old MPCs or Octatracks - those things allow you to do pretty much everything a traditional digital audio workstation would allow you to. Sure, they won’t have plenty of complex audio processing tools, they won’t allow you to load up software synths or complex effects and you’ll have to do all the post-production elsewhere, but you can write fully fledged albums with the functionality span of these devices.

It’s reasonable why many people prefer to centralize their music making process on a computer, because using and maintaining music hardware is a bummer. For me a fundamental difference between making music on a hardware and on a computer is the sense of interactivity with multiple creative physical pieces and the limitations you have to deal with, which affect your composing process - some results can be uniquely achieved on hardware ans the other equally unique results can be achieved on software. It’s sensually pleasing to interact with hardware, especially after you’ve learned how to be robust and efficient at using it.

Trackers are very close to simulating that feel, as you get to use a workflow inherently similar to that of on hardware sequencers, by navigating and writing down sequences from keyboard into a matrix-like timeline, while barely using a mouse.
 
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People who shit on country music exclusively are fags. If you constantly go on about how country singers just sing about trucks, beer, dirt roads, etc., but you don't have anything negative to say about rap, you're engaging in performative anti-white virtue signaling. I do not listen to any country music, and I hate it too. But I'm not going to pretend that country is uniquely bad while the charts have been dominated by mentally retarded niggers yapping about dey bitches, dey paypuh, and dey drugs for my entire adult life. At least Garth Brooks knows how to play a fucking guitar, don't try to tell me he's a talentless hack while you praise Yung Rapizzt's "flow".
 
People who say "I listen to everything but Country and Rap" don't know shit about music.

If you are a serious music person, there will be more than two genres that you hate. There are many genres I hate more than either Country or Rap, such as Jazz Fusion, Reggae, Disco and Jungle. Easy Listening can do one, too.

You're not a REAL music fan unless you hate as much music as you like, ideally more. The elite gigachad music fan hates ALL music. It's important to have standards.
 
I am not but Andrew Jackson Jihad may be the best name for something ever.
I would also recommend Corb Lund and Leslie Fish.
Horse Soldier Horse Soldier is great, I used to put it on in the background when I'd play War of Rights or Battle Cry of Freedom
 
People who shit on country music exclusively are fags. If you constantly go on about how country singers just sing about trucks, beer, dirt roads, etc., but you don't have anything negative to say about rap, you're engaging in performative anti-white virtue signaling. I do not listen to any country music, and I hate it too. But I'm not going to pretend that country is uniquely bad while the charts have been dominated by mentally retarded niggers yapping about dey bitches, dey paypuh, and dey drugs for my entire adult life. At least Garth Brooks knows how to play a fucking guitar, don't try to tell me he's a talentless hack while you praise Yung Rapizzt's "flow".
I actually quite like a lot of modern country music. Nothing better than white people music for white people
Rap is just jigs jigging though, so it's shit
 
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