Megathread The Handmaidens - Dedicated to the women dedicated to serving their misogynistic transgender masters

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I think their rhetoric has gotten dumber as Trump approached and then reentered the White House.

I suspect back when they were firmly in control of the narrative, they thought it'd take a bajillion years for Dem control of the institutions to collapse, and beyond that, probably several times longer before control of the institutions fell into batshit maga types. They probably expected eventually the political landscape would turn around slightly and we'd get some boring neocon types that generally yield to whatever the institutions tell them is necessary.

So if the institutions tell them that Gender Dysphoria is absolutely a life threatening condition and nothing short of steroids and dickchops can treat it, well, then, that's just what the experts are telling us!

(I'm generally one to trust experts, but anyone with a brain can tell that the institutions have been hopelessly subverted; they're not actually sincere or telling the truth about this nonsense.)

But after that disastrous Harris campaign and Trump's reelection, it really sounds like they're panicking and throwing anything at the wall that might stick. "uhhh, would you really not get your kids braces if they needed them??"

They've been thrown completely off balance and have no clue what to do. (The answer is: nothing, they've lost. Pack it in.)
 
But after that disastrous Harris campaign and Trump's reelection, it really sounds like they're panicking and throwing anything at the wall that might stick. "uhhh, would you really not get your kids braces if they needed them??"
“The dentist said I need to tear all my kids teeth out and replace them with a wooden denture… Well, he IS the expert!”

Also: I fucking HATE newspeak terms like: “Genderexpansive children”.

It’s like hearing a psychiatrist say that a schizophrenic has a “diverse sense of reality”.
 
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look into the mind of a troon to see how they feel about handmaidens (they hate them)
That's because they know no one means it when they tell a troon they're stunning. They know what they look like deep down, and they know everyone thinks they're some kind of Hannibal Lecter.

If these retards can't tell the difference between life saving surgery or corrective procedures for defects and invasive unnecessary lifelong medication and surgery for a child who is not sick, then we can't help them. This is such a stupid hill to die on.
They live in a world of false equivalencies. HRT and SRS are just like insulin for a diabetic or surgery because you have one of those weird deformities only people in India and Indonesia seem to get!

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“The dentist said I need to tear all my kids teeth out and replace them with a wooden denture… Well, he IS the expert!”

Also: I fucking HATE newspeak terms like: “Genderexpansive children”.

It’s like hearing a psychiatrist say that a schizophrenic has a “diverse sense of reality”.
Dentists are a great example of why being an expert-truster is foolish and naive even outside of gender (and covid).

The now-famous journalistic investigation of how dentists have very low inter-rater reliability to the point of sometimes being scammers.
 
These are Reddit handmaidens, these are a couple acquaintances I have on Facebook who decide to sperg once in a while. One is a lady with a troon kid and the other is a guy with a pooner niece. I haven't really seen them since we went to school together, but they sure have fallen into personal lolcow territory. They aren't bad people, outside of the extreme wokeism. Unfortunately, when the wokeism takes hold, they can't help but make fools of themselves.

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Being born male or female is not the same thing as being "disabled mentally or physically" nor is it "easily changed with medicine or surgery".
 
Being born male or female is not the same thing as being "disabled mentally or physically" nor is it "easily changed with medicine or surgery".
The fact that the mainstream narrative tends to be 'sex can be changed' instead of 'sex can be (poorly) imitated' is baffling. No matter how masculine a woman looks—and women can get quite masculine through exogenous testerone—she will never be male. She will never be capable of producing sperm, and in most cases, she's going to be capable of producing ova until she gets her ovaries cut out (testerone might fuck up egg production, but if you look over at any FTM subs on Reddit, there are enough accidental pregnancies to show that it does not stop it). Every single cell in her body will always have XX chromosomes. Ditto in the opposite direction for men.
 
Dentists are a great example of why being an expert-truster is foolish and naive even outside of gender (and covid).

The now-famous journalistic investigation of how dentists have very low inter-rater reliability to the point of sometimes being scammers.
Not just dentists but psychiatry in general. It's a bizarre field where disorders are literally voted into existence and diagnoses are seldom uniform across therapists. Because it's so symptoms-based, it's also easy to trick, provided you aren't a retarded thirteen-year-old faking DID: https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/1...nhan-experiment-laboratory-plautus-epidamnus/

I can't find the post, but my Facebook Lolcow is currently in the process of trying to rally support for her local librarian, who helps queer kids by recommending books to them. In other words, grooming.

The other guy has crawled back to his hobbies after his tirade. Maybe he'll keep his head down for a while.
 
Not just dentists but psychiatry in general. It's a bizarre field where disorders are literally voted into existence and diagnoses are seldom uniform across therapists. Because it's so symptoms-based, it's also easy to trick, provided you aren't a retarded thirteen-year-old faking DID:
There are cross-culturally occurring diseases that appear in about the same percent of the population around the world and across history. That would be things like schizophrenia, manic-depressive affective disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder. These are obviously "hardwired" diseases which, although the details of how they express will vary with culture, are recognizable across different social environments and cultural norms. They are closer to epilepsy and Hashimoto's than they are to something like "DID." And then there are extreme versions of emotional states common to all humanity, which when they rise to the level of affecting a person's ability to function and navigate in society are fairly enough called clinical anxiety and depression. But a lot of the rest is either culturally bound (which doesn't mean it's not real, it just means it's caused by something more multifactorial than just a malfunction at the brain level) or socially created or possibly entirely imagined and fabricated.

Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, predictably occurring in 1-2 percent of the population in 19th century Vienna and 20th century Egypt and so forth, are that one tooth that all the competent dentists the guy in the article saw agreed needed a crown. Most everything else there's room to move on.
 
The fact that the mainstream narrative tends to be 'sex can be changed' instead of 'sex can be (poorly) imitated' is baffling.
I was thinking of a more sane comparison: people who are blind because their eyes are removed--from a fire or an electrical mishap, etc. A lot of them will get bilateral eye prosthetics, not because they let the person see again--they're just plastic or ceramic, sitting there--but it makes interaction with other humans less awkward.

On the other side, obviously the person you're talking to is blind, they aren't moving right or making eye contact and they still may have scars around their face, but humans aren't robots and it helps you serve the customer and keep everything running smoothly, just not having to look into eye sockets or sunken lids.

Wait, this is about other people's comfort. Never mind.
 
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Please read the whole post before commenting. I know this is controversial, so context is important. Also, I apologize in advance for my English, I am not a native speaker. This is a burner account.

I (32F) have been friends with Lavinia (fake name), a 34yo trans woman, for more than a decade now. We met 13 years ago through work, before she came out as trans and she started her transition. We were both working at a fast food restaurant, a job I got hired for while I was studying at uni. We became very close pretty soon and stayed friends even after I graduated uni and left the job at the fast food restaurant. After three years into our friendship, Lavinia came out as trans. I was happy for her and I told her I would support her no matter what, since she made the brave decision to finally live her life as her true self. At first, her coming out caused some troubles in her family. Lavinia moved in with my family (also very supportive) for a four months, before she was eventually accepted by her parents. She started her transition and I supported her, mentally, emotionally and also financially. When I moved on from my "uni job", I started to work a job that pays me really really well. In our country, most of the gender affirming therapies and major surgeries are paid by public healthcare, but minor surgeries (such as facial feminization surgery) are not. Since Lavinia was still working at the fast food restaurant, she couldn't afford them, so I offered to pay. In addition to that, I managed to find talented surgeons, as I work in the medical field and I know a lot of doctors. She was really happy and that brought us even closer. I always took care of Lavinia after her surgeries, when she wasn't able to take care of herself.

Recently, though, Lavinia started behaving in a very weird way, to the point I almost cannot recognize her anymore. She started complaining about some health issues she has been suffering from, like PCOS and endometriosis. Initially, I couldn't understand what she was trying to say, so I asked her to explain. She suddenly became defensive and aggressive and told me I was invalidating her feelings and being disrespectful. I wasn't trying to disrespect her, I just couldn't understand how she could suffer from those conditions, since she doesn't have a uterus or ovaries. Anyway, I let it go, as she looked very upset.

Every now and then, Lavinia gets back to the PCOS/endometriosis thing, especially when we are with other friends who ask her how she is doing. She says things like: "oh, I'm doing just fine, but I have been having very painful periods recently, due to my PCOS. It really sucks.". Our friends always look puzzled, because they know she is a trans woman, but nobody ever said anything back to her. Everyone has been walking on eggshells around Lavinia for a while now, to not make her feel uncomfortable, as she gets easily upset.

A couple of days ago, me, Lavinia and a mutual friend (let's call her Jessica, 34F) were having a girls' night. Jessica's husband was out of town so she invited us over to catch up and spend some time together. We had dinner and then they started drinking some wine (I don't drink, because of a health issue I have). We were chatting and gossiping a bit and everything was going great, until Lavinia said something very unhinged. For context: Jessica and her husband have been trying for a baby for about two years now. Unfortunately, she hasn't been able to get pregnant yet. I am truly sorry for her, since Jessica is one of the sweetest and kindest people I know, and I really think she would be the best mother. Her and her husband shared this very personal information with Lavinia and me, because we are all close friends and they trust us. After just two glasses of wine, Lavinia said that she is struggling to get pregnant and started complaining about the fact there is not enough support for "people like her". She said she went to the doctor because of her infertility, but her doctor wouldn't let her get into a program to get IVF. As she was speaking, my heart sunk, because I know how sensitive this issue is for Jessica. I turned my head to look at Jessica and I saw she started tearing up. At some point she got up from the couch and she excused herself to the bathroom. I sat in silence for a minute. I couldn't believe what just happened. When I heard Jessica sobbing from the bathroom, I went to check on her and tried to comfort her. She was devastated. She was very sad because she didn't expect Lavinia to say something like that. I hugged her tightly, wiped her tears and told her I would try to speak to Lavinia, since she really crossed the line this time. We walked together back in the living room, only to see Lavinia taking selfies holding the wine glass, like nothing happened. I made up an excuse and told Lavinia we were leaving. I drove Lavinia home. I drove in silence for the whole ride. Before getting off my car, Lavinia asked why all of a sudden Jessica and I "got a stick up our butt". I couldn't take it anymore and I exploded. I asked how could she be that insensitive and bring up that bullshit of not being able to conceive, as she cannot physically get pregnant. She looked at me like I was the nastiest human being and started screaming that I don't understand the struggle of being a woman. I responded that I did understand what being a woman means, as I am a woman too, but maybe I can't fully understand the struggles of being a trans woman. Lavinia kept screaming, even louder, calling me transphobic and misogynist. I told Lavinia I am not, since I have been by her side from day one of her journey, and I was only calling her out for what she was saying and how she was behaving recently, not for who she is. She said I am disgusting and she is ashamed to have wasted all these years with "someone like me" that doesn't see her as a real woman. This is when, probably, I said something wrong. I said "No, I see you as a trans woman, which is what you are and that is totally okay. I love you, but you have been saying the weirdest stuff recently. It is disrespectful for the women that really have the health issues you are claiming to suffer from. That is not okay. I don't have endometriosis or PCOS, so, as a woman, I respect those who are struggling with those issues. You don't suffer from endometriosis or PCOS and you can't get pregnant, so stop with this nonsense. You are hurting people, your friends specifically." She suddenly got quiet and just got off my car, slamming the door behind her.

I haven't heard from Lavinia since, which is pretty uncommon. We usually text or call each other multiple times a day. I am not sorry for what I've said and I am not planning to apologize. Although, I would feel bad if that marked the end of our relationship. I have honestly considered Lavinia as my best friend for all these years.

So, AITA?

tl;dr This handmaiden housed, financially supported, and paid for cosmetic surgery for a tranny. After the tranny wasn't the center of attention, he started saying he was suffering from female only illnesses. No one wanted to set him off, so everyone keeps quiet until he pretends he's having fertility problems in front of a woman who is actually having them. Handmaiden finally snaps and tranny ghosts her. The Reddit comments are what you would expect.
 
Let’s player ProtonJon trooned out and his wife has become a handmaiden.

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I feel like the thing that may have peaked me before all else were people like this being over celebratory about someone coming out as trans.

Nobody ever behaved that way when people came out as gay, besides some celebrities for some reason (which is also equally as stupid).
 
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Notice how all of those exceptions are given fancy disorder names. If you're 5'6", you're just considered 5'6". If sex existed as a variety of biological expressions, then they wouldn't be considered disorders that are often accompanied by a variety of health and fertility problems. Also, isn't the intersex community tired of trannies and, in this case, their handmaidens trying to use them as an excuse for their BS?

Also, you've gotta love the 'educate yourself!' at the end. I hate that phrase for a myriad of reasons, one of which is because the people throwing it around are usually uneducated retards. Believe it or not, not everyone who reads or watches the same 'education' is going to walk away with the same opinion as you.

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PERIODS: THE HANDMAIDENS FINAL FRONTIER!


Over on r/mypartneristrans a tranny wife is having some… Eh… Issues with her creepy husbands period fetish. She asks for some thought correction.

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The discussion quickly splits up into relatively sane” takes:

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Some of the ladies try the usual retarded “Well what is a period, actually?”-takes that trannydom attracts like flies to a turd.

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“Do you need to BLEED to have a period?”
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The mods eventually notice some wrongthink and pull the ol’ SHUT IT DOWN!! Switch.

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Didn’t jump that deep, but I’d encourage y’all to fish for some retarded takes and women trying to pretend that a period is just a mindset.
 
Didn’t jump that deep, but I’d encourage y’all to fish for some retarded takes and women trying to pretend that a period is just a mindset.
This entire mindset really reminds me of (a little off topic) the whole direwolf thing. In short, some company modified a dog to sort of look like a 'direwolf' (spoiler, it does not), and when they received pushback about it, they said this:

"We prefer a phenotypic definition of species. Our dire wolves look and act like dire wolves, so we believe it’s accurate to call them dire wolves."

If it looks like a woman, it is a woman. If it looks like a period, it is a period. If it looks like a vagina, it is a vagina.

Nevermind that none of the above actually looks like the biological reality they are crudely apeing.
 
I am going to be charitable and think this is a very complex grief reaction that manifests as weapons grade handmaiden lunacy

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Trigger warning: My mother was FtM. I’m starting to realize I have questions and issues and I’m not sure where to get help on working out those issues?​

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My mother was a lesbian. She was very masculine and had a feminine presenting partner. She was ousted from many female spaces due to being masculine presenting. Eventually she decided to - begin - transitioning from female to male. I live in a red state. I am not a Trump supporter. I was the first person who she came out too as wanting to transition as a safe person which I gave my reassurance it was ok for her to become her authentic self. I use her because we were beginning the transition. So from here I will mother and not she/her pronouns as mother was a safe word they and I agreed were ok between us because that’s the relationship we always had. I lost my mother to suicide 2 years ago. I found my mother. However I still have rainbow stickers on my car in vocal opposition and support for LGBTQIA.
My point is this: I’m in this weird position of dealing with their passing. We never made it entirely through the horomone replacement therapy or to the point on the other side of making it to a full transition. I feel like I’m stuck in limbo - I’m in a position of being a trans ally but at the same time I think I may need to challenge some of my views that maybe seem as transphobic or views that don’t make me the good authentic ally I wanted to be to my mother. I don’t know we never got to the end of the journey together to grow in that manner.

Where can I get help in terms of support groups for trans family members where I can work through these issues?

Add edit: or since my mother passed away is the trans issue no longer “my lane” as a cisgender woman ? Do I just ignore trans issues and mind my own business? My step mother is 69. My mother was 59 at their passing.

Also I am in therapy and have been consistently since their passing. I would argue my therapist is very anti trump / has never hinted negatively at my mother. My therapist isn’t trans and is not specialized in the depth of trans issues.

Her suicide is not your fault. Being a better trans ally wouldn’t have saved your mentally ill mother, and it won’t bring her back.
 
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