Disaster Hugo Administrators Resign in Wake of ChatGPT Controversy - The upcoming Seattle edition of the World Science Fiction Convention, or Worldcon, used AI to help vet program participants.


By Cheryl Eddy Published May 5, 2025

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Another year, yet another Hugo Awards-adjacent controversy? That might be what fans of sci-fi lit and related media are thinking, with news today that a trio of leaders from the Seattle 2025 Worldcon, the upcoming iteration of the convention where the Hugos are annually presented, have resigned. This year, at least, the awards themselves—voted on by members of the World Science Fiction Society (WSFS)—seemingly aren’t directly involved in the dust-up.

In a post on Bluesky co-signed by Hugo administrator Nicholas Whyte, deputy Hugo administrator Esther MacCallum-Stewart, and World Science Fiction Society division head Cassidy, the trio announced they were resigning from their roles ahead of the Seattle event, which takes place in August. “We want to reaffirm that no LLMs or generative AI have been used in the Hugo Awards process at any stage,” the statement read in part, which might turn the heads of anyone who is a) interested in the Hugos, but b) not up on the latest controversy.

However, plenty of people in the community are well aware of what’s been going on. A quick journey to the blog File 770 will bring you up to speed, as will a visit to Seattle Worldcon 2025’s own site, which on April 30 shared a post clarifying exactly what role AI played in the upcoming event.

“We have received questions regarding Seattle’s use of AI tools in our vetting process for program participants,” Seattle Worldcon 2025 chair Kathy Bond wrote. “In the interest of transparency, we will explain the process of how we are using a Large Language Model (LLM). We understand that members of our community have very reasonable concerns and strong opinions about using LLMs. Please be assured that no data other than a proposed panelist’s name has been put into the LLM script that was used. Let’s repeat that point: no data other than a proposed panelist’s name has been put into the LLM script. The sole purpose of using the LLM was to streamline the online search process used for program participant vetting, and rather than being accepted uncritically, the outputs were carefully analyzed by multiple members of our team for accuracy.”

Bond’s post goes on to explain that “using this process saved literally hundreds of hours of volunteer staff time, and we believe it resulted in more accurate vetting after the step of checking any purported negative results. We have also not utilized an LLM in any other aspect of our program or convention.”

That last line is what today’s resignation post from Whyte, MacCallum-Stewart, and Cassidy also emphasized: that the Hugos themselves were not pulled into this process, which was meant to help Seattle Worldcon 2025 more efficiently compile the panels it offers to convention attendees.

Bond later posted an additional message on May 2, re-iterating her apology about using ChatGPT as part of the convention’s program vetting. “Additionally, I regret releasing a statement that did not address the concerns of our community,” she shared. “My initial statement on the use of AI tools in program vetting was incomplete, flawed, and missed the most crucial points. I acknowledge my mistake and am truly sorry for the harm it caused.”

However, as File 770 pointed out, the damage has apparently already been done: the use of ChatGPT in any capacity in connection to Worldcon created a furor on social media. It also inspired at least one Hugo nominee to remove their book from contention: Yoon Ha Lee, whose Moonstorm was named a Lodestar Award finalist, which honors YA releases. In a May 1 post on Bluesky, the author linked to the April 30 Worldcon blog post noted above, and noted he was withdrawing the title from consideration.

Then, in a post shared today responding to File 770’s latest post announcing the resignations, the author wrote “All respect and I’m grateful to them for their work, sorry [things] came to this pass.”

Seattle Worldcon 2025 takes place August 13-17; the Hugo Awards will be handed out August 16.
 
What the fuck is "program participant vetting"? And what does an AI LLM do for it?

Sounds like a big load of nothing, both in terms of Worldcon staff feeling the need to use AI for this purpose and people getting mad about it.
 
The Hugos have lost all broad relevance anyway. They’ve chased away straights, whites, men, conservatives, centrists, anyone that isn’t a dangerhair and a femmunist. All in the name of ‘diversity’. SFWA and WSFS have plummeting membership, decreasing commercial viability, increasing irrelevance and are driving speculative fiction down the same retarded rabbit burrows that are killing cinema and role-playing games.
Ture... HOWEVER... THESE GOD DAMN FAGGOTS AND THEIR WHISPER NETWORK STILL GATE KEEP. THEY STILL HAVE POWER BECAUSE IT.

Saw this first hand. Fucking hated them ever since. I miss those days where people can create whatever they want without going through a check list.
 
So the whole nontroversy is leftoids freaking the fuck out because the evil life stealing AI was used in any capacity or how "racist" it is etc? Is there more to the story, like the vetting criteria itself or something? Or just anti-AI hysteria?
 
As if SF writers haven’t spent 75 years warning that asking AI to do shit like that is a bad fucking idea. But I guess when your entire organisation runs like Ingsoc you can get kind of complacent.

lol no one involved in official fandom reads anything from before... the date changes rapidly, as of right now it's probably whenever blindsight came out
 
Ah but, you see, those SF writers were all CHUDS and evil huwite men, so their words and warnings had to be ignored for the good of ethnic harmony and anti-racism.

nah they don't read the women or the black people neither
 
nah they don't read the women or the black people neither
To be fair, nobody’s much interested in speculative fiction created by women and blacks, because they can’t help but drag their current_year bullshit into every narrative.

I grew up on Harrison and Heinlein, Vance and Sheckley, Kornbluth and Dick (that’s Phillip K for you marching morons). They didn’t feel the need for screed. They wrote fun, imaginative stories that opened my youthful brain to philosophy, science, language and more.

If I pick up the average SpecFic book approved by SFWA or WSFS these days it’s going to be a bean-flicking first-person revenge porn story about smashing the racist patriarchy of the future. No more Forever Wars, no more West of Eden, and god help me for even writing this, no more Battlefield Earths.

And you know when contemporary SpecFic makes you long for the days of L. Ron Hubbard’s ghostwriters that things have become very grim indeed.
 
What the fuck is "program participant vetting"? And what does an AI LLM do for it?

Even bigger question. They have so many panellist applicants that they have to vet all of them? How come I do not really believe that. Must be hunting for wrong think...

yes they're using AI to look for wrongthink and specifically for people who have any history of not toeing the line on sad puppies

if you don't know about sad puppies none of this will make sense. I haven't read this, it probably sucks and it's insanely long


maybe someone else has a writeup that doesn't suck and isn't insanely long.

sad puppies has a lot of similarities to and overlap with gamergate but unlike gamergate I guess has been mostly forgotten?

I don't really know what to say about how these retards somehow managed to not know that personally punishing your ideological enemies is the whole point of this crap for 99% of people. I have a strong suspicion that the reason they got caught doing this is some midlevel con janny was butthurt that their important job of snooping and tattling got taken away.
 
I’m very familiar with the sad/rabid puppies campaigns. The first thing I note about the Wikipedia entry for sad puppies is “unsuccessful, right-wing, anti-diversity campaign” and all three claims are supported by opinion pieces.
It’s as worthless, mendacious and fact-free as the GamerGate article.

In reality it was a perfectly successful, anti-woke, pro-diversity campaign, in that it sought to overcome the ludicrous progressive bias that was choking the awards and killing the industry by inches.

The article points out that awards went ungiven, this was because the cunts in control refused to vote for books whose nominations they didn’t agree with. And eventually they changed the nomination and voting rules to prevent ‘puppy’ slates from ever being fielded again, and this just accelerated the political inbreeding to the point that nobody gives a fuck any more. And now, here we are.
 
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To be fair, nobody’s much interested in speculative fiction created by women and blacks, because they can’t help but drag their current_year bullshit into every narrative.
The only people still interested in it are the people who are in writer adjacent social networks: mostly women, some troons and some older legacy white simps. SF used to be one of the quintessential young guy things, and its readers were in it mainly for the fiction. If they went to cons, it was also for the fiction and to meet the stars writing that fiction. When the women took over, it quit being about the fiction, and started to be about being part of the social network. They are big networks because a lot of women write and read Mary Sue style fanfics, but they are a lot smaller than SF readership used to be. And they are all about interpersonal relationships and the kind of camarilla politics crazy, childless women are up to. The books are an afterthought, which is also why the books are dogshit.

What I have learned from unpleasant personal experience is that the women who now own genre publishing are insanely possessive of "their" scene, and would rather see it die than give up their claim on it. As far as they are concerned, that ownership is what gives the scene its entire value.

There is no saving it. It is fucking contaminated by fugly bitches and their raibowqueer/ethnic pets. Let it all burn, build something new in a different place with heads on spikes surrounding it so the infiltrators don't want to be part it.
 
Let it all burn, build something new in a different place with heads on spikes surrounding it so the infiltrators don't want to be part it.
If I had money I’d create a Heinlein Prize for speculative fiction written by straight white men. God knows there are enough literary awards for queers, niggers, women etc that the libtards wouldn’t have a leg to stand on if they wished to object.
 
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Even bigger question. They have so many panellist applicants that they have to vet all of them? How come I do not really believe that. Must be hunting for wrong think...
The optimistic interpretation is the Hugo org used AI to fact check the applicants were who they claimed to be. A Clarion West grad really attended, a professor really teaches at a university etc.
 
Bond’s post goes on to explain that “using this process saved literally hundreds of hours of volunteer staff time, and we believe it resulted in more accurate vetting after the step of checking any purported negative results. We have also not utilized an LLM in any other aspect of our program or convention.”
It's not like these idiots have an entire year to do all of this or anything.

It's definitely being used to check for wrongthink and/or give priority to women/minority writers.
 
I’m very familiar with the sad/rabid puppies campaigns. The first thing I note about the Wikipedia entry for sad puppies is “unsuccessful, right-wing, anti-diversity campaign” and all three claims are supported by opinion pieces.
It’s as worthless, mendacious and fact-free as the GamerGate article.

In reality it was a perfectly successful, anti-woke, pro-diversity campaign, in that it sought to overcome the ludicrous progressive bias that was choking the awards and killing the industry by inches.

The article points out that awards went ungiven, this was because the cunts in control refused to vote for books whose nominations they didn’t agree with. And eventually they changed the nomination and voting rules to prevent ‘puppy’ slates from ever being fielded again, and this just accelerated the political inbreeding to the point that nobody gives a fuck any more. And now, here we are.

yeah I said it sucked
 
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