India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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Jewthulhu said:
It's literally anything but.

Reminder that the originator of nuclear winter theory was the hackfraud Carl Sagan, who before that point was notoriously anti-nuke. That's not to say that it can't be a real phenomena, but that the people who pushed the idea had/have a political reason to do so.
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It's like I've always said:

If nuclear winter was real we'd all be dead from the tests alone.

I Guarantee you us, the soviets, anyone that had em tested em enough times, hell the tsar bomba ALONE was enough that if nuclear winter was gonna happen, we'd done be frozen over.
 
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Ed Special said:
India and Pakistan are each estimated to only have about 50-100 warheads each, and their arsenals are thought to be entirely in the 10-100 kiloton range. Unfortunately, even if they start slinging nukes, we probably won't see Total Subcontinental Death from this unless outside powers get involved.
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Yeah, and some time ago I'd spoken of it more here, but not even the most significant impacts the US could deliver would destroy the whole country, and you can bet we're punching above India's weight several times over. Those blasts were in megatons, mind you, and India by comparison is lobbing spitballs.
 
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rosecig said:
Fuck the economy, the real benefit is internet will finally be readable.
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I like to go read the front page of reddit with no account, just to see what the base normal reddit is like.
Usually i get a good cringe or chuckle out of the retards, but now like 10% of it is german posts and 40% is Indians
 
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David Brown said:
What evidence is there that the nuclear arsenals have been maintained and kept in usable condition?
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I'd have to look, but I'd be willing to bet there's line items in budgets somewhere. Even tiny nuclear arsenals are too maintenance-intensive and expensive to just hide in a black budget somewhere (unless you're the US military and you've got a bigger black budget than God, but IIRC our nuclear maintenance expense are still public). That said though, even 10% of an arsenal of 100 nukes being functional is enough to easily wipe out a million or so people.
 
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Bothriolepis said:
The original simulations of nuclear winter back during the 1980s were probably overblown. The fact that some of the predictions for "extreme nuclear winter" sounded worse than the Chicxulub event, when involved several times more energy than every nuclear weapon that existed at the time going off at once in the same spot, should have really been a dead giveaway as far as that's concerned. The authors of the study even acknowledged that their results required a perfect storm of worst-case scenarios to be applicable.

With that being said, though, basically every study ever done that doesn't assume a best case scenario (ie., war occuring in the winter limits woodland wildfires, all other non-urban firestorms are minimal, and most particulate debris remains in the Troposphere where it can rain out)  does predict some degree of cooling, along with damage to the ozone layer. It probably wouldn't mean the end of Western Civilization if India and Pakistan got into a nuclear exchange, but there's a good chance it would have global consequences.
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Agreed. I don't doubt there'll be environmental impacts from a significant exchange, but it's not going to turn the earth into a frozen wasteland.
Swingletonthesimpleton said:
It's like I've always said:

If nuclear winter was real we'd all be dead from the tests alone.

I Guarantee you us, the soviets, anyone that had em tested em enough times, hell the tsar bomba ALONE was enough that if nuclear winter was gonna happen, we'd done be frozen over.
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The theory kind of relies on cities being hit, to be fair.
 
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Enoch Emery said:
That's a common flaw I see in the Indian line of thinking. They assume the reason Muslims don't eat pork is because they worship pigs like Indians worship cows. So on Twitter they'll send pictures of pork to Pakis to set them off but throw a fit when they respond with a picture of beef.

The Indian shield strategy won't work.
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They really think Muslims like pigs? Are they that retarded? They’d gladly shoot the pigs lmao.
 
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I think The damage a singular nuclear missile is overstated, I'd bet money there have been usage of nuclear weapons (not exactly missiles or bombs) for aggressive purposes we don't know about maybe not even including the US Government.
 
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Jewthulhu said:
Agreed. I don't doubt there'll be environmental impacts from a significant exchange, but it's not going to turn the earth into a frozen wasteland.

The theory kind of relies on cities being hit, to be fair.
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If you wiped out every American Major urban city, America would surpass China within a decade.
 
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