Debate @Maori Kiwifruit Growers on what "white" means

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I'll prove you wrong and say i dont give a fuck
I'll double down. If white people can decide what exactly "white is", then sure let them have a state IDGAF. But last time I checked, white people love telling other white people that they aren't white. Like what is white? Are Irish people white? what about Poles? or Russians or Italians?


I'm a believer that culture is what defines people. Look if you want to say x y & z cultures are "white" then go ahead. Because there are already unions and international orgs similar countries are apart of (African Union comes to mind) where they want to band together and make their own desisons. Frankly one could argue that the EU is a "white country" as it is made up of euro nations (which should all be considered white right?) Well, look how well that's going. But saying all white people should have a country is as reductive as saying all Asian people should have one country.


Fuck even the Irish and British can't get along and they're both considered white.
 
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I'll double down. If white people can decide what exactly "white is", then sure let them have a state IDAF. But last time I checked, white people love telling other white people that they aren't white. Like what is white? Are Irish people white? what about Poles? or Russians or Italians?
1. Tired strawman.
2. It's not even an issue. For most of the 20th century, Ireland was the nation for the White Irish, Poland (still is) the nation for the White Polish, Italy was the nation for the White Italians, and so on. For decades a vastly disproportionately Jewish section of the political and academic elite has worked to destroy that, but it's still the case.
 
How is this difficult. Fair skin colour = white.
My point is that the the french, the poles the Irish, the germans, the italins all have fair skin color and they ALL hate each other. My point is that ethnicity and nationality is what makes states. If they want to make a white state and definite it then I say "good luck". Every country deserves to determine what does or does not make a citizen.
 
My point is that the the french, the poles the Irish, the germans, the italins all have fair skin color and they ALL hate each other.
That's normal racism. Everyone's racist to a degree. We're usually softer towards our own - the people we live amongst, dine with, chat with or live with. You're likely to be more empathetic towards your own mother than Dave's from the village over.

Black people kill each other all the time in Africa. Why would whites hating whites by anything abnormal.
 
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That shit's easy.
If you match anything on the first line, you're in. Otherwise out.
 
If you'd to ask me to tell the difference between a nord's skin, a pale mediterranean's skin, and an ashkenazim's skin, I couldn't tell you anything other than they all look the same, before and after a skinning and tanning.
 
It's just some edgy people here and elsewhere that like to poke the hornets nest that do that. Most people probably couldn't care less.

It's like a scale. At some point you're more asian or black or what other division you'd have.
Nobody in the real world actually thinks like that.

It used to be a thing when racial nationalism was used by politicians to inflame tensions and build a political base but now when that's no longer kosher it's no longer a thing among 99.9% of households or conversations in the real world. I've in my entire life never been in an actual conversation where the topic is whether or not a Pole or an Irishman is white.

The only semi-common trope is whether or not Jews are "white" and to my knowledge you have that debate among yourselves too.


TL DR; Touch grass.
 
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Judging from the most learned opinions of the 19th century, white means you can trace your ancestry back to some Godforsaken patch of northwestern Germany about 200 square miles big
 
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