Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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>87,5% male

And I mean, most Popplio fans that I met were usually flamboyant or part of the alphabet soup in some way, so idk, I can see it.
Game Freak is autistic. All starters must have 87.5/12.5 gender ratio because all the previous ones do, even if they're feminine. I doubt the fanbase for Primarina is particularly different from other feminine Pokemon. Any Pokemon that looks girly has three main types of fans.
1. actual women
2. faggots
3. animal fuckers

I will never understand why they released that one at the ass end of Gen 7 when nobody was going to use it, instead of hinting at it and getting people hyped up for it to be in Gen 8. I have literally never used mine.
It wasn't the end of Gen 7 yet. LGPE is technically still Gen 7. They needed another mythical for cross-promotion with the anime movie that came out 2018. Starting with Gen 3 they clearly wanted to have a mythical for every year of that generation so they would have a new one to give away with each movie each year.

First in Gen 1, Mew was put in as just an easter egg. Supposedly the only members of the dev team that even knew it was in the game data were Tajiri and Morimoto.
1998 - Anime makes its first movie about Mewtwo because of course it does, and also features Mew for the obvious connection and by this point Mew is officially revealed and has giveaways for it.
1999- Anime has proven successful enough that it's still going indefinitely now and is getting movies every Summer. Having the 2nd movie just star the bird trio wouldn't be good enough, so the anime team asks Game Freak to come up with a new legendary Pokemon for them. Sugimori designs Lugia, and movie writer Shudo comes up with Lugia's lore, and Game Freak decides to put Lugia in GS as the mascot for Silver version while Ho-Oh is the mascot for Gold (originally they just planned for Ho-Oh to be the only "uber" legendary in GS like Mewtwo was for Gen 1). Gold/Silver comes out only a few months later that year (almost all Pokemon games from here on come out in the Fall) so this starts the pattern of the final movie of a gen starring a next gen Pokemon to hype up the next game.

In Gen 2 they decided to put in Celebi as a secret Pokemon to copy what happened with Mew. Originally they planned to feature it in the anime as part of the story arc with the GS Ball.
2000 - They aren't messing with Celebi yet, so the anime team picks out another legendary to be the featured Pokemon, so they pick Entei arbitrarily.
2001 - By this point they decided to drop the whole GS Ball storyline in the anime without conclusion and feature Celebi in a movie instead. Suicune also cameos because Crystal is the latest game. Celebi is officially revealed and has a giveaway to copies of Crystal (which still features the GS Ball as part of the Japan-only event).
2002 - Ruby/Sapphire is coming up, so they feature Latias and Latios to hype it up.

With Gen 3 they seem to have decided to fully plan out having another mythical Pokemon in the game data to have Pokemon to feature in the movies and have tie-in events for for multiple years, so they make two mythicals with Jirachi and Deoxys.
2003 - Jirachi focused movie, with Jirachi being officially revealed and given away for the first time.
2004 - Deoxys focused movie, with it being revealed and given away to copies of FRLG (where it first gets alt forms which are shown off in the movie). Emerald is also coming in a few months so Rayquaza also makes a big appearance and Emerald also gets its own Deoxys event and form.
2005 - Diamond/Pearl was originally supposed to come out this year, so this year's movie starred Lucario to hype it up. There was also Mew as a major part of the movie, probably picked tie-in with FRLG, and so they had that year's movie tie-in giveaway be Mew with Emerald having a special in-game event for it.
2006 - Oops, DP got delayed a year, so this year's movie is also hyping Gen 4. It stars Manaphy, which was just some design Sugimori had laying around that they weren't sure what they were going to do with yet, but the anime staff asked for a new legendary to feature so Sugimori picked it out and handed it to them. They nothing more to givaway to mainline games, so they did the event with Pokemon Ranger where you complete the Manaphy mission in it and you get an egg you can transfer to DP once it came out a few months later.

They made sure to have enough mythicals in Gen 4, so in addition to Manaphy and Phione, they made three more with Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus.
2007 - Darkrai focused movie, gets revealed and given out for the first time. The movie also features Dialga and Palkia, starting a pattern for the next couple gens where the first movie would also feature that generation's box legendaries.
2008 - Shaymin focused movie, and also Giratina since Platinum came out that year. To give extra incentive to get Shaymin, they put the new Sky Forme in Platinum which is also shown off in the movie.
2009 - Arceus focused movie. Since HGSS was coming out just a couple months later they ended up skipping out doing the full Azure Flute event for copies of DPP and instead focused things the Arceus giveaway letting you access the Sinjoh Ruins event in HGSS. They also stuck the spiky-eared Pichu in the movie, which was another event Pokemon for copies of HGSS.
2010 - Stars Zorua and Zoroark to hype up Black/White coming up, but also feature Celebi and cameos from the beast trio so they had Pokemon to giveaway. Tie-in event was a Celebi and shiny beast trio who could transfer into BW later to catch Zorua and Zoroark in that game.

For Gen 5 they made four mythicals, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genosect. Only three got movies. I'm not sure if they made an extra in case the generation lasted four years, or if they didn't expect the anime team to make the first movie about Victini since it was given away soon after BW came out as a timed event to get people to buy the game at release.
2011 - Movie focuses on Victini, Reshiram, and Zekrom. Victini was already revealed and given away at BW's release, but I think they had another giveaway with the movie along other Pokemon.
2012 - Keldeo stars in the movie, gets revealed and given away to go along with it. Kyurem and its new forms are also a major part of the movie because B2W2 came out the same year. They gave Keldeo a new form in B2W2 that also gets shown off in the movie. Meloetta never starred in a movie, instead it got featured in a couple anime episodes and in the short that ran with the movie, and was also given away this year.
2013 - Genosect is left, so obviously it's the featured Pokemon and is given away. But XY was coming out soon, so it also features Mega Mewtwo Y to hype up Gen 6, though the concept of Megas wasn't actually revealed yet so Mewtwo's new form goes unnamed and unexplained in the movie.

Gen 6 was likely going to be three years long, so they made three mythicals. Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion.
2014 - Diancie movie with Xerneas and Yveltal. Diance is revealed and given away. ORAS also came out this year a few months later, so they feature a new Mega Diancie in the movie and have an even in ORAS where you get the mega stone when you transfer Diancie into it.
2015 - Hoopa movie with giveaway, and they did the same trick of introducing a new form with Unbound form in ORAS. Since ORAS has every legendary in it that wasn't in XY, they also stuck a whole bunch of legendaries in the movie too. And ORAS has most of the legendaries coming out of what looks like Hoopa's rings, so they seemed to have had this tie-in planned from the start.
2016- Volcanion is revealed and giveaway with the movie, but Sun/Moon is also coming out soon so the movie also features a new Pokemon you'll be able to get in SM with Magearna to hype up Gen 7. Also the movie kind of features Zygarde (it doesn't do much, but they showed it off a bunch in trailers) because had they made Z it would have come out last year, but they didn't and mainly Zygarde got shown off in the anime.

With Gen 7 it seems Game Freak had decided on introducing new Pokemon mid-generation now, so other than Magearna they only stuck a single mythical in Sun/Moon to start, Marshadow.
2017 - The movie this year was that weird AU retread of the first season featuring Ho-Oh. But they also awkwardly stuck Marshadow in there so they could tie-in with giving it away that year. Then USUM comes out later this year, so they put Zeraora in it for next year's movie.
2018 - Features Lugia to go along with last year's movie I guess, but mainly features Zeraora, which is revealed and given away to copies of USUM.
Then Let's Go comes out later this year, so they gave that its own new mythical with Meltan/Melmeltal. They don't make a movie about it though, instead featuring it in the anime series by giving Ash one.
2019 - The movie this year was a 3DCG remake of the first movie, for some reason. I guess you could say it ties into the newest game at the time Let's Go being a Gen 1 remake.

And then in Gen 8 they put a single mythical into the game to start, Zarude.
2020 - Zarude focused movie, gets given away.

And then the anime studio stopped making movies after that, so Game Freak stopped making any more event-exclusive Pokemon since there was no longer anything to tie them into. Though I guess you could say Pecharunt feels like one.
 
One of the stories I linked to earlier just updated to include Black Bolt and White Flare's sell sheet and various products (some of which were in the original), here's the sell sheet.
  • Over 170 cards
  • More than 65 illustration rare cards
  • More than 5 special illustration rare cards
  • Six Pokémon ex (including Zekrom ex and Meloetta ex in Black Bolt and Reshiram ex and Keldeo ex in White Flare)
  • Eight ultra rare Pokémon and Supporter cards
  • One illustration rare or special illustration rare card for each Unova Pokémon
  • One special illustration rare Supporter card
  • Three different parallel foil sets, two of which will feature either a rainbow Poké Ball or Master Ball pattern shimmering across the card
  • New “Black White rare” cards, which will feature card illustrations in a monochromatic black or white design
Hoo boy, I'm really not a fan of those Poké/Master Ball pattern holos. Prismatic Evolutions had dogshit because of that and it's a shame to see TPCi continue making those mistakes here.
They’ve gone all in on pandering to waifufags with SIRs because making them lottery cards takes in a lot more money than just the special rare Pokemon cards.
Eh, as long as the non-waifufag SIRs are somewhat obtainable I don’t think most folks will give a shit about that. But then again cards that feature popular human characters in general are featured on a card, the SIR print of Giovanni’s Mewtwo ex from The Glory of Team Rocket is currently selling for $300-$350 on eBay.
 
Eh, as long as the non-waifufag SIRs are somewhat obtainable I don’t think most folks will give a shit about that. But then again cards that feature popular human characters in general are featured on a card, the SIR print of Giovanni’s Mewtwo ex from The Glory of Team Rocket is currently selling for $300-$350 on eBay.
It’s the hype with that mewtwo that’s the problem I have. It adds to the FOMO factor that’s already been pushed on with the last 3 sets. Most of the illustration rares are still below $5 and are of ‘mons that aren’t sought after by the people who chase restocks. They just wind up in their bulk bin and not circulating.
 
I just said that I like how the new island challenge format works, and changes things up just enough to work.
What about its changes made it work for you? I personally didn't see anything meaningfully different between it and the gimmicks most gyms employed. What other ideas would you have for making different challenge formats?
Either way, both feel more grounded than the games where you have to save the world from some villain of the week group, I guess GSC was also pretty grounded in that regard.
Hard disagree, aliens and traversable alternate dimensions open such a massive can of worms in relation to what actually constitutes a Pokemon and the relative technology of the setting it's retarded and removes whatever suspension of disbelief I could have. I could at least believe that fictional Weather Underground or Aum Shinrikyo would want to weaponize animals that can control elements because that at least is internally consistent, but the moment you tell me that alien lifeforms can be captured in Pokeballs I start to wonder what's keeping any petty thief from holding people for ransom in Pokeballs. Nevermind just reducing the villainous team to run-of-the-mill criminals is just uninspired - we don't need a villainous team to have basic thugs in Pokemon, we've had Cue Balls and Bikers as trainer classes since the first generation; making them into a villainous team isn't grounded, it's a waste of worldbuilding.
why didn't some half-decent trainer wipe out their HQ before you?
This logic could be applied to most things in Pokemon games. Why didn't someone win the league before you like in the very first game? Why didn't someone complete the Pokedex before you and why is that task being entrusted to some 1X year old? It's all suspension of disbelief, and I have an easier time doing that for the necessities of a linear RPG than I do for aliens and multiverses.
Same goes for Magma/Aqua/Galactic/Plasma ect. who are just doofuses, nothing is done with them and their plans are retarded.
Magma and Aqua are ecoterrorists while Galactic is a new age personality cult, all of whom are infamously retarded IRL. Plasma actually does succeed in their plan (which is practical, seize the government) only to have the rug pulled out from them in the eleventh hour. The first three enable your encounter with the region's legendary and the last drives the entire plot of its game, so I don't really know what you mean by saying nothing is done with them beyond them being underutilized.
Not sure if that's a popular opinion or not, but I never hear anyone praising any of the pokemon besides Mimikyu
I've seen some people praise them and some people trash them, most just seem indifferent. I can count on one hand the amount of designs I actually like from Gen 7, most of them were just boring to me and I didn't like regional variants on the basis they only went to Kanto mons and Kanto designs are my least favorite of the original four. Probably the worst crime for me is that all the Legendaries are incredibly boring to me and were clearly overshadowed in priority by the Ultra Beasts, most of which I think look retarded.
Imagine looking at a mermaid and immediately thinking of trannies lmao
I didn't until I saw trannies glomming onto it and retroactively poisoning it - same with Sylveon and Milotic.
 
I will never understand why they released that one at the ass end of Gen 7 when nobody was going to use it, instead of hinting at it and getting people hyped up for it to be in Gen 8. I have literally never used mine.
There's the theory that it was part of Gen 6, as part of the Norse mythology thing they had going on. It's ratatoskr, the messenger squirrel that runs up and down the world tree, while Xerneas represents the deer grazing at the foot of it, and Yveltal represents the eagles perched at the top.
 
There's the theory that it was part of Gen 6, as part of the Norse mythology thing they had going on. It's ratatoskr, the messenger squirrel that runs up and down the world tree, while Xerneas represents the deer grazing at the foot of it, and Yveltal represents the eagles perched at the top.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit, considering that leftovers of Z were part of SM, ie Zygarde alt forms and Ash Greninja
 
There's the theory that it was part of Gen 6, as part of the Norse mythology thing they had going on. It's ratatoskr, the messenger squirrel that runs up and down the world tree, while Xerneas represents the deer grazing at the foot of it, and Yveltal represents the eagles perched at the top.
Magearna also struck me as a Gen VI mon.
 
There's the theory that it was part of Gen 6, as part of the Norse mythology thing they had going on. It's ratatoskr, the messenger squirrel that runs up and down the world tree, while Xerneas represents the deer grazing at the foot of it, and Yveltal represents the eagles perched at the top.
I doubt that since it's a cat, not a squirrel. I think it was just some random design they thought would make for a good promotional mon.
Magearna also struck me as a Gen VI mon.
It almost is since her lore is heavily tied to Kalos. I'm pretty sure she was explicitly made just to be the star of the final XY anime movie and is only a Gen 7 Pokemon by technicality since they couldn't retroactively add her to XY/ORAS so she had to first appear in SM. The main manga even had her appear in a volume release bonus chapter of the XY arc rather in the Sun/Moon arc.
 
Apparently there were references to a "z version" in the files of sun and moon. So yeah the zygarde cells collecting quest was definitly an unused feature of pokemon Z no matter what gamefreak says.
I can't remember or find the details anymore, but I remember the Teraleak last year had some documents that confirmed one and for all that a Z version was planned with a bunch of stuff including Zygarde forms, but it was canceled before it ever really got past the planning stage so they could focus everyone on Sun/Moon.
 
Do we know why the movies stopped?
I haven't looked too much into it since I stopped paying a lot of attention to the anime after XY&Z, but I remember the final movie had its production fucked by the Covid lockdowns and got delayed. Literally every previous movie came out in theaters in Japan in July, but the 2020 movie didn't come out until December. From what I've heard, the TV anime itself also had its production and scheduling fucked up that year as well. And the Japanese box office revenue for the movies were falling since around the Gen 5 movies with the 2020 movie doing the worst of all.

Considering all that and Ash finally getting retired a couple years later, it seems to me that the anime studio was feeling stretched thin with all the outside issues and exhausted from doing the same stuff with Ash for 20 years, and so with the falling revenue from movies anyway they decided just stop doing them so they could focus all their effort on the TV anime until it was finally wrapped up and they could do something a bit new.

The Teraleak did reveal that there was another movie that was in pre-production since 2021 and was meant to come out in 2023 or 2024 but got canceled. It was going to be set in Kanto with a completely original cast and supposed to be aimed at older fans. It was going to be about a couple of teenagers investigating why their friend commited suicide, and was meant to explore male friendship and modern problems like cyber bullying. The leak had a conversation between several high up members of Game Freak like Sugimori discussing the proposed movie and being negative on the idea because the Pokemon themselves barely have anything to do with the plot and the whole thing being made as fujobait to attract female fans. They even straight up say that Game Freak isn't interested in attracting adult female fans, and that if TPC wants to appeal more to women they should focus on it after working out the main appeal of the franchise (the Pokemon and their bonds with trainers) first.
 
t seems to me that the anime studio was feeling stretched thin with all the outside issues and exhausted from doing the same stuff with Ash for 20 years,
They brought that on themselves by not letting Ash sunset after Gen 4.
The leak had a conversation between several high up members of Game Freak like Sugimori discussing the proposed movie and being negative on the idea because the Pokemon themselves barely have anything to do with the plot and the whole thing being made as fujobait to attract female fans. They even straight up say that Game Freak isn't interested in attracting adult female fans, and that if TPC wants to appeal more to women they should focus on it after working out the main appeal of the franchise (the Pokemon and their bonds with trainers) first.
Based, rare modern Gamefreak W.
 
They brought that on themselves by not letting Ash sunset after Gen 4.
To be fair it's not the entire staff's fault. From what I gather, the leaks also revealed that the executive director for the anime for the first six generations, Yuyama, was the guy who was absolutely dead set on Ash always being the main character, never aging, and never winning a Pokemon league even with other staff members or even other major figures in the franchise (like TPC CEO Ishihara) being at least somewhat opposed to that. Which confirms the feeling everyone got about a tweet from one of the animators after Ash lost the Kalos league that felt like a passive-aggressive complaint that he was unhappy with Ash losing too. Apparently the new director that took over for the Sun & Moon anime basically went behind Yuyama's back in having Ash win the Alola league and when Yuyama found out it lead to some arguments and backstage drama.
 
They brought that on themselves by not letting Ash sunset after Gen 4.
IMO he should have sunsetted after Gen 2. That whole Sevi Islands sidetrip was wearing out his welcome, especially since there was nothing like that in the official games. And that's me being nice, because at least you can make the argument that Gen 2 is the sequel to Gen 1 and Togepi was around for a good chunk of Gen 1, not to mention the first movie had a couple Gen 2 appearances.

Otherwise he should have never lost the tournamant/E4/whatever. I know "bait and switch", but look where it got us... It took fucking two/three years ago for this asshole to FINALLY win. That's how long they've been blue-balling everyone. Even with all the support and knowledge he gained with hands-on experience and people teaching him, it took THAT fucking long. One would look at that and say Ash is legit braindead retarded and should quit pokemon after like the third/fourth attempt.
Yuyama, was the guy who was absolutely dead set on Ash always being the main character, never aging, and never winning a Pokemon league even with other staff members or even other major figures in the franchise (like TPC CEO Ishihara) being at least somewhat opposed to that.
Figures it was one guy. You can't have something like this happen without someone higher up (or at least has some power behind them) kicking and screaming like a 2 year old. Reminds me of Yuji Naka when he was in Sega with the Sonic series.
 
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