2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Surely, total genocide will get people to stop all this antisemitism and anti-Jew sentiment going on now, right?

What idiots. The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to wipe out the Palestinians (not just Muslims, but Christians and non-Christians in that settlement, too) and October 7th provided a good excuse to do so. Hamas are pants-shitting idiots for instigating this but at this point, Israel deserves whatever punishment it gets when the dust settles by The Hague.
 
Saw a bit of Palestinian propaganda on twitter (nitter) that was so stupid that I had to share it
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So the IDF made him stand behind a sand dune so they could kill him... by bombing him? I mean, if there were IDF soldiers there to force him to stand behind the dune, why didn't they just shoot him? I guess we're meant to shed a tear at the thought of this young man sacrificing his life to save the lives of "the families in the camp." The whole thing sounds like a scene from a particularly third-rate Holocaust movie.

I read One Day in October. Brutal read. The image of the guy holding off the people at the shelter window (wtf those shelters cannot have been current code) while his wife runs away with the baby has stuck with me.

It’s available on Amazon or directly from Koren I think.
I'm halfway through it. It's a bracing read. What strikes me most is the number of people who flung themselves into danger despite being totally underequipped and having no obligation to do so.

Surely, total genocide will get people to stop all this antisemitism and anti-Jew sentiment going on now, right?

What idiots. The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to wipe out the Palestinians (not just Muslims, but Christians and non-Christians in that settlement, too) and October 7th provided a good excuse to do so. Hamas are pants-shitting idiots for instigating this but at this point, Israel deserves whatever punishment it gets when the dust settles by The Hague.
Last I checked, the population of Gaza had increased since the beginning of the Oct. 7 war. Some genocide.

You can engage in whatever kind of narrative-spinning you want about Israel's real motives for the war, but the fact is that Gazans could halt the war immediately by handing back the hostages and ceasing their attacks on Israelis.

I can't imagine why you'd believe the ICC's activism on behalf of "the State of Palestine" (whatever that is) is going to amount to anything.
 
Could we take the weird Jews-caused-the-Ukraine-war stuff to the Ukraine war thread?
Surely, total genocide will get people to stop all this antisemitism and anti-Jew sentiment going on now, right?

What idiots. The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to wipe out the Palestinians (not just Muslims, but Christians and non-Christians in that settlement, too) and October 7th provided a good excuse to do so. Hamas are pants-shitting idiots for instigating this but at this point, Israel deserves whatever punishment it gets when the dust settles by The Hague.
Israel exists so that Jews no longer need to depend on the vagrancies of antisemitism for their survival. It wasn't working out.

I don't know why nominal Christians want to simp for Gaza. There are perhaps 1000 Christians living in Gaza, down by half in less than twenty years. Gaza is overwhelmingly Muslim.

The Jews did not want an excuse. They were happy to put up with occasional rockets. The Gazans pushed them to the point that they had to act through launching a massacre on Israeli territory and then taking hostages.

The Hague has no ability to enforce meaningful punishments, which is why it's not a real court and international law is not real law.
 
The Jews did not want an excuse. They were happy to put up with occasional rockets
The fact that these morons think a population would clamor for war when their kids are conscripted to the military just shows how little reality matters in formulating their conclusions.

The Hague has no ability to enforce meaningful punishments, which is why it's not a real court and international law is not real law.
When it’s a matter unrelated to Jews or Israel, they decry the lack of legitimate basis for the establishment’s authority and arbitrary power. When it’s about Jews or Israel, they have endless reverence and hunger for that boot leather.
 
The Jews did not want an excuse.
Imagine a man broke into your house with an axe and tried to chop you to death.

You pull out a gun and shoot him.

The response from the sidelines: "Hmm, yes, the axe attack did provide a very convenient excuse for you to shoot that guy... but I wonder what the REAL reason for the shooting was?"

Because they want to. Reality can’t touch their minds because they have no minds. It’s just NPC scripts running 25/8.

No joke! I was accosted by an anti-Zionist on the street this Monday. I was just walking home from work, minding my own business, not looking visibly Jewish, when some person I didn't recognize leapt in front of me and started screaming things like, "He's a Zionist! He's a Zionist! He kills babies! He kills babies!" while taking pictures of me on his phone. I can only guess where he knew me from. I did tear town anti-Israel posters outside my home a while back; maybe he somehow saw me at that. I wasn't really in fear for my safety; the whole experience was just bizarre.
 
Risking unflattering badges, I still have to ask:
Does anybody have a good estimate how long it will take for Gazans to drop like flies from starvation?
I looked up the blockade of Leningrad, and while the cities had a comparable population (2.700.000 L vs 2.200.000 G), an extreme number of Russians died , ~1.500.000. Now, Leningrad of course has harsh winters and the length of the blockade was longer, Also I don't know how many supplies were smuggled in both cases
 
Does anybody have a good estimate how long it will take for Gazans to drop like flies from starvation?
Have you seen the people streaming on TikTok from Gaza? They have plenty of food, bountiful marketplaces and restaurants bustling with customers, drinking lattes with Palestinian flags made out of cocoa on the foam toppers. You can start looking here if you’re interested.

Hamas has been stockpiling the aid in order to profit from it. But the situation is not what has been presented by corporate media. What is certain is that the blood is entirely on Hamas’ hands.
 
That's what I was wondering just today after the news of an israeli rocket hitting "a restaurant".
Like, tf? You have functioning restaurants? Doesn't seem too horrible
They’ve had them the entire time. And the Gazans have been streaming from Gaza the whole time too. It’s impossible to overstate the egregiousness of the “genocide” fraud the world has been sold. But people who wanted to buy it would have done so regardless of the evidence.
 
What idiots. The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to wipe out the Palestinians (not just Muslims, but Christians and non-Christians in that settlement, too) and October 7th provided a good excuse to do so. Hamas are pants-shitting idiots for instigating this but at this point, Israel deserves whatever punishment it gets when the dust settles by The Hague.
The Hague? What the fuck are they gonna do?

Seriously, does Israel lose a future war, does the ICJ get South Africa's army and arrest the whole war cabinet and general staff, or maybe the IRGC paratroopers in and they rendition them or something? And then they give the land to a state designated as a terror group by the US, the EU, and Japan? I know that's not a lot of the world, but it's a lot of the world's money and power.

I am actually curious what your fantasy of justice for the people of Gaza is, how it plays out, and who ends up benefiting. What's the instrument of their vengeance, and why would they do such a thing?
 
Risking unflattering badges, I still have to ask:
Does anybody have a good estimate how long it will take for Gazans to drop like flies from starvation?
I looked up the blockade of Leningrad, and while the cities had a comparable population (2.700.000 L vs 2.200.000 G), an extreme number of Russians died , ~1.500.000. Now, Leningrad of course has harsh winters and the length of the blockade was longer, Also I don't know how many supplies were smuggled in both cases
They had half of Gaza classified as being in famine for almost a year... a status which has a minimum fatality rate per day of 0.02% of the population (that casualty rate is doubled for children, but let's use the lower one). Again, that's daily, so pretty simple math would have had tens of thousands, almost a hundred thousand dead of starvation before they removed that classification.

The actual number was a few dozen, total, for the entire war... I guess that the absurdity finally got to them and the UN quietly removed the classification even though nothing substantive changed on the ground. But I did read one report that assumed that they must have died so they just raised Hamas' estimates by 80,000 and bemoaned the fact that the media wasn't reporting on the real number of deaths.

Now they're claiming that they're so hungry that they've resorted to using rice and pasta to make food...
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Rough, rough stuff :sigh:
 
Risking unflattering badges, I still have to ask:
Does anybody have a good estimate how long it will take for Gazans to drop like flies from starvation?
I looked up the blockade of Leningrad, and while the cities had a comparable population (2.700.000 L vs 2.200.000 G), an extreme number of Russians died , ~1.500.000. Now, Leningrad of course has harsh winters and the length of the blockade was longer, Also I don't know how many supplies were smuggled in both cases
Forever and a day, because they’re not starving. There isn’t a food shortage.
 
Airstrikes near Nabatieh:

IDF: A short while ago, IDF aircraft struck a terrorist infrastructure site in the area of the Beaufort Ridge in southern Lebanon that was used by the Hezbollah terrorist organization to manage its fire and defense array.

At the site, the IDF struck Hezbollah terrorists, weapons, and tunnel shafts. This infrastructure is part of a significant underground project that, due to IDF strikes, has been rendered inoperable.

The existence of this site and the activities conducted there constitute a blatant violation of the understanding between Israel and Lebanon.

The IDF will continue to operate in order to remove any threat to the State of Israel and will prevent any attempt by Hezbollah to reestablish and rebuild itself.
 
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