RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

So... is there anything people here actually liked from RWBY?
I actually liked the angle they were starting with Yang having lost her arm in a fight. They set up a nice slow burn of her being depressed and angry about it, and learning that she can't rely on her berserker semblance to carry her through fights. Then season 5 said "lol, PTSD isn't real, here she goes kicking ass" like nothing happened.
 
So... is there anything people here actually liked from RWBY?
Some of the music is pretty good. Let's Just Live is my favorite song.
I watched the first season when it came out (since I was an RvB fan) and thought it was a fun indie project. I stopped watching and didn't pick it up again until a year or two ago. So I watched straight through all 9 seasons. I do love how you could watch the evolution of a small indie project from the RvB people turn into a fully flushed out, high production value animated toon. I did not follow any of the drama or know anything about Monty, so it was nice to be able to just enjoy it. I did think all the world building was neat and the show held my interest. I didn't start looking at it critically until after season 9 and started watching all the videos and background on the production.

I think the end of the third season was fairly peak RWBY. There was lore being built up, a lot of rising action, main character death .. and despite all the silly parts, it was still an indie series coming into maturity. It's only after you go back that you see all the holes. I was also glad I waited to watch it all at once. If I had watched it as it came out, I would have been so pissed at the constant season cliffhangers. I'm sure people going back and rewatching it to prepare for the next season was another thing that killed it. But I was generally entertained by the whole thing on first watch and found it enjoyable.

I also really liked Weiss's character, and how she started seeming like she'd be a total bitch, but grew to be Ruby's friend with a more level headed temperament and an interesting family backstory. I think she's my favorite of the main four characters.

I actually liked the angle they were starting with Yang having lost her arm in a fight. They set up a nice slow burn of her being depressed and angry about it,
I liked that scene where her dad calls her out about the arm and two of her professors look absolutely horrified before both Yang and her dad started laughing. I know it's a silly comedy cliche, but I thought that was a fun part and showed how close she was to her dad. There were a lot of interesting relationships that could have really been neat, but none of them were really followed through. Son and Blake should have been close, but their entire growth arc was totally discarded at the beginning of the next season and then they end up Lesbo-dyking her and Yang (a relationship with zero buildup or foreshadowing unlike Blake/Son). I also hate how Ruby had no real connections to other leaders or potential love interests. The deeper parts of her character were always missing, and then they made her emo depressed to fill in those spots.

This video is a pretty neat breakdown of the Ironwood v Watts fight. There is a lot going on in that fight I never noticed, and a pretty insane attention to detail around their weapons, tactics and even the number of rounds they both had. There are little pieces of massive detail throughout the show that really made it entertaining, despite a lot of the criticism.


I think RWBY would have been remembered better if they just finished some of the damn stories. Red v Blue had several arcs that finished in 3~4 seasons: discrete segments of stories with a beginning, middle and end. RWBY started down the path of a massive epic with no end in sight. Now there are zero complete stories and a big open ended exit.
 
So... is there anything people here actually liked from RWBY?
Some of the music is pretty good. Let's Just Live is my favorite song.
I started watching from the Red trailer and I've always liked most core elements and aesthetics of the show. Characters loosely based on fairy tales, myths, and works of literature, the color rule, anime rule of cool, every weapon is also a gun, stuff like that. Monty Oum's fights are just fantastic and I first dropped the show because the fights in V4 & V5 were so obviously bad compared to the stuff Monty had made for V1-3. I got back into the show right after V7 finished and that was when I really dove into the plot and worldbuilding and saw a lot of individual things I liked, but were poorly executed. And theory-crafting how to fix media with good ideas but poor execution is like crack to me, so no matter how bad the show becomes, I'm hooked.
 
So... is there anything people here actually liked from RWBY?
Some of the music is pretty good. Let's Just Live is my favorite song.
I think Blake's speech in volume 4 is actually a decent commentary on bigotry and tension between communities. That, no matter how unfair it is, sitting back and letting the worst of your people be the only one speaking for you isn't going to do anything to improve the situation. If you want things to get better, you can't just wait for someone else to make it better for you or for the hateful people to just suddenly have a come-to-god moment.

Of course, the fandom decried this as bootlicking and status quo adherence.

Really, I think volume 4 over all was pretty good, probably like it over some of the early seasons where everything felt a bit aimless.
There are a few characters that look at Jaune like "what's this guy doing here", notably some teachers at the academy. They also make a big deal about his weapon several times as well - as if the person (and bloodline) it came from was extraordinarily powerful.

They clearly wanted to have weapons have more significance they wound up having - Jaune's being teased out several times (and Ruby using a Scythe instead of gauntlets).
And you had that moment in Volume 4 where Tyrian, out of nowhere, has a specified interest in Jaune after only just meeting him and Jaune doing nothing to attract attention, implying that there's some hidden connection there.
 
So... is there anything people here actually liked from RWBY?
Some of the music is pretty good. Let's Just Live is my favorite song.
I recently rewatched Volume 9 and ended up liking it even more than I did the first time around. It's much better on a binge since it's more like a movie than the other volumes are, and it follows a smaller cast and has a single linear story that really favors that smaller cast. The volume ends up much more cohesive than most other volumes because of that. Most of the problems I had when I watched it while it was airing didn't come off nearly as bad to me either upon rewatch and I now believe Volume 9 to be either the second or third best volume of the show.

Also in general I've softened up on RWBY quite a bit. There are so many worse things out there to compare it to and most of those other shows and franchises had way more money and professional involvement and time to develop things in them than RWBY ever did. RWBY is still fun, it's still cute, it still has good music, and Weiss is still one of my favorite characters from anything ever. Just because other things are worse doesn't make RWBY "good" but it puts shit in perspective.
 
So I watched straight through all 9 seasons. I do love how you could watch the evolution of a small indie project from the RvB people turn into a fully flushed out, high production value animated toon. I did not follow any of the drama or know anything about Monty, so it was nice to be able to just enjoy it. I did think all the world building was neat and the show held my interest. I didn't start looking at it critically until after season 9 and started watching all the videos and background on the production.
Really? Because I can only see a show degenerating more and more into woke shitfest with every season, to the point I had to drop it because it was too stupid and painful to watch.

This video is a pretty neat breakdown of the Ironwood v Watts fight. There is a lot going on in that fight I never noticed, and a pretty insane attention to detail around their weapons, tactics and even the number of rounds they both had. There are little pieces of massive detail throughout the show that really made it entertaining, despite a lot of the criticism.
Like this one: It felt weird that the strong, cybernetically enhanced general used a pair of lame, weak-sounding guns as a weapon (that's also a cheap copy of Ruby's shtick to boot), and he has such trouble against a skinny scientist who can keep up with him even with no Aura, while Tyrian, the alleged professional assassin, is always owned in 2-3 punches tops. That season is where I dropped it as writers dropped the ball, by having Ruby behave like a complete moron, betraying Ironwood and justifying his paranoia, then having the nerve to prove him right again in front of his fucking face. Another funny thing is how that scientist pretty much betrayed humanity and joined she-Satan because a black dude stole his job and/or his woman, it was unclear, talk about being petty.

Season 4 is when things began to break down quickly, with the constant retcons, with Blake being one of the worst, as the "lol-evil" Fang terrorist group ends up becoming her dad's problem for not intervening when it became obvious their "liberation army" became a terrorist gang. Then there's the fact the Faunus, supposed to be poor and isolated in not-Australia, had a bitchin' tropical island that looked quite good, so their reasons to complain about their mistreatment grew weaker. I also loved how Blake behaved like the average politician and used her burning home (the one she set on fire herself*) as a point to use against these terrorists.

*Because despite being a cat who can see in the dark, fighting against a loud woman who used flashy attacks was too hard, so rather than dropping a flare or something, Blake had the brilliant idea of setting her house on fire and nearly killing herself and her dad for doing so.
RWBY should have finished in Season 3. Oh, and of course, the fans are rabid and psychotic and will scream at you at the slightest provocation, real or imagined.
 
So, I got some news for you. Remember Ruby Rose's VA Lindsay? Today she came out as, trans? She claims she is just being "non-binary", but came out with a male identity , and the totally normal non anime male name "Jax" so idk. You be the judge
No fucking way, hahaha. I guess all that fucking homophobic Ruby fanart really got to her and made her troon out?
Then season 5 said "lol, PTSD isn't real, here she goes kicking ass" like nothing happened.
Hey now, her arms shook a couple times after the fight. That means it's still lingering, you see. Then she and Blake killed Adam and somehow this helped her PTSD go away rather than made it worse.
Season 4 is when things began to break down quickly, with the constant retcons
Season 4 is basically a full reboot, complete with art style change. The show shares almost nothing in common with the first 3 volumes by the time 4 roles around. The writing, tone, characters, structure, and overall goal of the show is completely different.

It is kind of insane. I don't know if it was because Monty died and Miles and Kerry just decided to completely overhaul everything going forward or what, but binge the series sometimes and the whiplash between beginning RWBY and later RWBY is so severe it'll probably break your neck.
 
I don't blame them because they had bigger fish to fry. But it's insane the amount of money WB lost by just not firing Miles and Kerry for someone competent.

I won't pretend it was ever a big shot franchise. But it did have the potential to be one.
 
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I don't blame them because they had bigger fish to fry. But it's insane the amount of money WB lost by just not firing Miles and Kerry for someone competent.

I won't pretend it was ever a big shot franchise. But it did have the potential to be one.
They had copious amounts of "trust me bro" energy. Or Zazlav, being a Disney plant, didn't bother.
 
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I don't blame them because they had bigger fish to fry. But it's insane the amount of money WB lost by just not firing Miles and Kerry for someone competent.

I won't pretend it was ever a big shot franchise. But it did have the potential to be one.
They had copious amounts of "trust me bro" energy. Or Zazlav, being a Disney plant, didn't bother.
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"

Guys, RT was a MINOR subsidiary of a subsidiary. I guarantee WB had no clue it existed and its impacts on their ledger were minimal at best compared to other money pits. The entire reason they were able to putter along after spending years failing is because they were so small nobody of consequence noticed until they had butchered all of WB's bulls and were making their way to the calfs.

I am getting tired of repeating myself every few months about something so obvious.
 
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"

Guys, RT was a MINOR subsidiary of a subsidiary. I guarantee WB had no clue it existed and its impacts on their ledger were minimal at best compared to other money pits. The entire reason they were able to putter along after spending years failing is because they were so small nobody of consequence noticed until they had butchered all of WB's bulls and were making their way to the calfs.

I am getting tired of repeating myself every few months about something so obvious.
As true as that is, it’s still pretty funny RWBY of all things was able to get a Justice League crossover.
 
As true as that is, it’s still pretty funny RWBY of all things was able to get a Justice League crossover.
Is it though? DC has a long and storied history of making crossovers with many different IP's, some of which aren't even owned by WB and are even smaller than RWBY in terms of cultural impact. Its not a high bar.

Its not like this is the Witcher, where that would genuinely be completely out of left field if RWBY did a crossover.
 
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Is it though? DC has a long and storied history of making crossovers with many different IP's, some of which aren't even owned by WB and are even smaller than RWBY in terms of cultural impact. Its not a high bar.

Its not like this is the Witcher, where that would genuinely be completely out of left field if RWBY did a crossover.
I think it is, if you see RWBY as this web show that the suits didn’t care about until IP cancelling time came around.
 
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As true as that is, it’s still pretty funny RWBY of all things was able to get a Justice League crossover.
Is it though? DC has a long and storied history of making crossovers with many different IP's, some of which aren't even owned by WB and are even smaller than RWBY in terms of cultural impact. Its not a high bar.
Crossovers are not a high bar. They're probably the absolute lowest bar.

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"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"

I know. That's why I said I knew they had "bigger fish to fry." Still, this is the nicest thing I'll say about RWBY today. If it had reached its full potential, it wouldn't have been a small potatoes franchise from a no-name subsidiary.

As for the crossovers, I don't think they represent a low bar. I mean, the storytelling is often poor, but there's usually a lot of money behind the scenes. They might seem like a sign of desperation from one party, but WB's business is literally selling their IP's in some form, and crossovers are actually some of the more expensive ways they do it.

Even with crossovers, companies are anal-retentive about ensuring their IPs are respected so they don't get devalued.

In my opinion, the Justice League crossovers are proof WB did try, as a last resort, to save RWBY, and it still failed. It was an attempt to boost something unpopular with something popular.
 
Anybody who doesn’t see them as a comedy duo practically ships them.
I'm not a shipper myself but Weiss/Ruby is literally the only Team RWBY lesbian ship that even remotely makes sense.

@WitchOfDarkness the reason Bumblebee happened is because Yang and Blake's VAs have a real life lesbian crush.
 
I actually liked the angle they were starting with Yang having lost her arm in a fight. They set up a nice slow burn of her being depressed and angry about it, and learning that she can't rely on her berserker semblance to carry her through fights. Then season 5 said "lol, PTSD isn't real, here she goes kicking ass" like nothing happened.
It's messy and it tangles up the Adam/Blake/Weiss thread by adding in a previously unaffiliated third party. The person who should have been crippled in that fight is Weiss, not Yang. Yang being crippled by Adam really robs Weiss and Blake of serious narrative capital, there were better ways for Yang to have a personal crisis due to the Fall of Beacon and better ways to tell her that maybe just going berserker and brute forcing your way through everything isn't the best thing to do.
 
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