India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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David Floyd George said:
I quite like their caste system. I think we could use one over here.

Now that I have your attention, I notice several times upthread your referencing a second and a third world. Do you know what the second world is? If so, your descriptions of it are very inaccurate.
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Of course this nigga doesn’t know what the second world is all he does is repeat whatever his favorite dirtbag left streamer says like “neocolonialism”
 
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To get an idea how well armed India and Pakistan are when it comes to nuclear weapons:
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dcss said:
You sperging on and on about how niggers are actually muh victims of imperialism because you watch hasan and skimmed through Malcom X’s autobiography while shilling your pan African anti European bullshit is shitting up the threat. Europe won, Africa lost, Africa will always lose, there is no magic soil, and you are a nigger.
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The funniest thing about it is that if you ask Africans about colonialism they will say that Europe should have had it for 50 more years.

So European colonialism works in two stages, each around 50- 75ish years. The first is that you come in and destroy the native culture, and install your own, all while slowly building infrastructure to support your resource extraction. The second half is more "cultural" and you build more infrastructure. So in the first stage you might build a port and a highway, now you're building more highways to connect more smaller industries and more ports. The native people have to have some sort of education so you start building universities and schools. It is around here, in the 2nd phase when revolutionary ideas come up, because the native people are educated, however it is also here where the colony has its own external economy that isn't focused on exporting a single product. What I am trying to say is that the time between the berlin conference and de-colonization was around 75 yeas. In 75 years the Europeans destroyed native African culture, if it continued for another 75 years the continent would look similar to either South America or south east Asia. Poor and disfunctional but not a total disaster. But we also have to remind ourselves that after 2 world wars and a massive depression after both they couldn't afford to maintain their colonial holdings.
 
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I use second world to refer to china and most of central asia after the cold war. alongside a few others. how is it usually defined?
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During the Cold War, when the phrase originated, it referred to the communist world, chiefly the USSR and its eastern Europe client states. As it very much has a definition, your very erroneous usage of the phrase causes confusion at best and makes you sound like a lunatic at worst.
 
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Niggas be communists even tho niggers exist (high trust communities cannot exist with them)
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
The funniest thing about it is that if you ask African's about colonialism they will say that Europe should have had it for 50 more years.

So European colonialism works in two stages, each around 50- 75ish years. The first is that you come in and destroy the native culture, and install your own, all while slowly building infrastructure to support your resource extraction. The second half is more "cultural" and you build more infrastructure. So in the first stage you might build a port and a highway, now you're building more highways to connect more smaller industries and more ports. The native people have to have some sort of education so you start building universities and schools. It is around here, in the 2nd phase when revolutionary ideas come up, because the native people are educated, however it is also here where the colony has its own external economy that isn't focused on exporting a single product. What I am trying to say is that the time between the berlin conference and de-colonization was around 75 yeas. In 75 years the Europeans destroyed native African culture, if it continued for another 75 years the continent would look similar to either South America or south east Asia. Poor and disfunctional but not a total disaster. But we also have to remind ourselves that after 2 world wars and a massive depression after both they couldn't afford to maintain their colonial holdings.
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A prime example of the importance of these stages: during WW1 none of the African colonies revolted, even as the Europeans were not only destroying each other in Europe, but also in the colonies themselves. The new ideas weren't there yet, and attempts to restore the old ways had in previous decades become associated with disastrous cults that claimed to magically shield their followers from bullets.
 
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There are some social media shenanigans taking place.

Misleading posts obtaining millions of views on X​

India's strikes on Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir have unleashed a wave of misinformation online, with unrelated videos purporting to be from the strikes gaining millions of views.

Dramatic clips debunked by BBC Verify have claimed to show attacks on an Indian army base and an Indian fighter jet shot down in Pakistan.

One video, which had more than 400,000 views on X at the time of writing, claiming to show an explosion caused by a Pakistani response was actually from the 2020 Beirut Port explosion in Lebanon.

An expert told BBC Verify that in moments of heightened tension or dramatic events, misinformation is more likely to spread and fuel distrust and hostility.
"It's very common to see recycled footage during any significant event, not just conflict," Eliot Higgins, the founder of the Bellingcat investigations website, said.

"Algorithmic engagement rewards people who post engaging content, not truthful content, and footage of conflict and disasters is particularly engaging, no matter the truth behind it."

One of the most viral clips, which gained over 3 million views on X in a matter of hours, claimed to show blasts caused by the Indian strikes on Pakistan-administered Kashmir. A search for screengrabs from the video on Google found the footage actually showed Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip on 13 October 2023.

While much of the debunked footage has purported to show the immediate aftermath of the Indian strikes, some clips analysed by BBC Verify appeared to be trying to portray the Pakistani response as being more severe than it actually was.

One video, which has racked up almost 600,000 views on X, claimed to show that the "Pakistan army blew up the Indian Brigade headquarters". The clip, which shows blasts in the darkness, is actually from an unrelated video circulating on YouTube as early as last month.

Elsewhere, one set of photos purported to show an operation carried out by the Pakistan Air Force targeting "Indian forward air-bases in the early hours of 6 May 2025". The images - which appeared to be captured by a drone - were actually screengrabs taken from the video game Battlefield 3.

The Pakistani military says it destroyed five jets on Wednesday morning local time. That announcement has led to some users sharing unrelated clips which they claimed showed the wreckage of Indian fighter jets. Some of these videos have obtained millions of views.

But two widely shared images actually showed previous Indian air force jet crashes - one from an incident in Rajasthan in 2024 and another in the Punjab state in 2021. Both crashes were widely reported.

Prof Indrajit Roy of York University said that the images "are being generated with a view to get support for the military in Pakistan". One clip circulated by the Pakistani military itself was later withdrawn by news agencies after it turned out to be from an unrelated event.

"We have jingoists on both sides of the border, and they have a huge platform on Twitter (X). You can see how fake news, as well as some real news, gets amplified, distorted and presented in ways designed to generate hostility, animosity and hatred for the other side."

The conflict in Kashmir has long attracted a high degree of misinformation online. In the aftermath of the deadly militant attack on Indian tourists in Pahalgam last month, AI images circulated - with some seeking to dramatise actual scenes from the attack.

Vedika Bahl, a journalist with France 24, said the Pahalgam attacks had prompted a sharp "uptake in misinformation from both sides surrounding the conflict".

"Lots of this misinformation begins on X," she said. "Eventually this trickles down over time from X to WhatsApp which is the communication tool which is most used in South Asian communities."
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
In 75 years the Europeans destroyed native African culture, if it continued for another 75 years the continent would look similar to either South America or south east Asia. Poor and disfunctional but not a total disaster. But we also have to remind ourselves that after 2 world wars and a massive depression after both they couldn't afford to maintain their colonial holdings.
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There's also other ways to improve Africa
Genocide-bros keep your blood-diamond hands strong because we're going to the moon!!

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A prime example of the importance of these stages: during WW1 none of the African colonies revolted, even as the Europeans were not only destroying each other in Europe, but also in the colonies themselves. The new ideas weren't there yet, and attempts to restore the old ways had in previous decades become associated with disastrous cults that claimed to magically shield their followers from bullets.
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Possibly the best example of colonialism working would be the Spanish colonies, India/Pakistan (yes, I know but all memes aside, they are functioning countries), I would say South Africa but it is hard to say because once the NP got in power in 1947 the aparthide stuff really fucked over south Africa in the long run. I guess one could also say Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. Really if you look at it the British were the only ones make some progress because their whole idea was "hands off". If you want to talk about Europeans that did zero nation building, you have to look at the French/Belgiums. The Dutch sorta let their native people do their own things, and the Portuguese actually made their colonies part of their country proper. I think it was a massive mistake to revolt against Portuguese rule, as the Portuguese made everyone in their colonies full citizens (no different than those from Portugal itself).
 
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
The funniest thing about it is that if you ask Africans about colonialism they will say that Europe should have had it for 50 more years.

So European colonialism works in two stages, each around 50- 75ish years. The first is that you come in and destroy the native culture, and install your own, all while slowly building infrastructure to support your resource extraction. The second half is more "cultural" and you build more infrastructure. So in the first stage you might build a port and a highway, now you're building more highways to connect more smaller industries and more ports. The native people have to have some sort of education so you start building universities and schools. It is around here, in the 2nd phase when revolutionary ideas come up, because the native people are educated, however it is also here where the colony has its own external economy that isn't focused on exporting a single product. What I am trying to say is that the time between the berlin conference and de-colonization was around 75 yeas. In 75 years the Europeans destroyed native African culture, if it continued for another 75 years the continent would look similar to either South America or south east Asia. Poor and disfunctional but not a total disaster. But we also have to remind ourselves that after 2 world wars and a massive depression after both they couldn't afford to maintain their colonial holdings.
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I want to add on that if you ask Africans what their main problem right now is they won't say "muh whitey" or "muh colonialism" or "muh euope" it's "muh corruption".

Seriously, the corruption is what is destroying their countries, not the Europeans. if the Europeans could air drop in a division and end the corruption, they would support that in a heartbeat. But these facts don't fly in lefty "educated" commie circles. Long story short, if the African's want Western Democracy it is not the west which stops them, but the African's themselves. Seriously many African states need to follow El Salvador they are that fucked up.
 
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