Hentai is disgusting.

[NerfEverything]

Or if he takes your advice he might also turn into a liberal with unsuppressed urges that unbans sexual deviancy while partying at gay orgie clubs or worse like one too many I could google for you.

My advice is to find a balance cause he seems a bit to the extreme on one side and even going out of ones comfort zone could be good for him. Finding (naked) girls "gross" is something you're supposed to grow out of. Doesn't mean that you should respect someone who puts themselves out there continously as someone who doesnt, though context and degree matter. But I agree, never go full retard, in either direction.

It's genuine advice for what its worth.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

My advice is to find a balance cause he seems a bit to the extreme on one side and even going out of ones comfort zone could be good for him. Finding (naked) girls "gross" is something you're supposed to grow out of. Doesn't mean that you should respect someone who puts themselves out there continously as someone who doesnt, though context and degree matter. But I agree, never go full retard, in either direction.

It's genuine advice for what its worth.

I basically agree, but he's obviously severely autistic so this is probably better for him tbh

 

[NerfEverything]

I basically agree, but he's obviously severely autistic so this is probably better for him tbh

You have a point though;
Even autists can find love and end enrich each others and thus our lives with their merry escapades.

Plus it pains me to say this, it really does but at least the liberal in our two extremes wouldn't be a hypocrite.

But what's worse, being a hypocrite in private or consciously destroying the social fabric of society? Hah. Maybe the conservative retard edges out still.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Even autists can find love and end enrich each others and thus our lives with their merry escapades.

You know what, I don't disagree.

But what's worse, being a hypocrite in private or consciously destroying the social fabric of society? Hah. Maybe the conservative edges out still.

The conservative in a landslide. I don't care what legal desires someone engages in within the privacy of their own home, that's between them and God. Just crush degeneracy in the public sphere and work on yourself.

 

[NerfEverything]

You know what, I don't disagree.


The conservative in a landslide. I don't care what legal desires someone engages in within the privacy of their own home, that's between them and God. Just crush degeneracy in the public sphere and work on yourself.

We're going a little off-topic but I'll just remind you that in the example the conservative is also changing society towards a over-prude one (theocratic/control freak/what have you) but he's a hypocrite in private to compensate. Now his change isn't destructive per se but its stiffling.

It's not landslide, its a close tossup to what ever degree depending on where you stand yourself.


Edit: I did write "bans sexual deviancy" which could be understood either at home or in public. So the point isn't as strong as if I would've articulated it a bit differently. There's a bigger difference then in favour of your POV. What ever, we're just splitting hairs I think anyway.

 

[NuII's Clitty💦]

young people exploring their sexuality

 

[whatchamacallit]

I mean, at least it isn't funding human trafficking rings, however strange it is the exploitation of real people is far far worse.

 

[Banquet Meal]

Sounds pretty autistic my man

says the nigger who made a 10 page essay about what is and isnt pornography.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

What ever, we're just splitting hairs I think anyway.

Fair enough.

I mean, at least it isn't funding human trafficking rings, however strange it is the exploitation of real people is far far worse.

Even aside from worst case scenarios like human trafficking, at least real people aren't degrading themselves, sinning, and perpetuating a vile industry with hentai. It's still bad but is by far the lesser evil.

 

[Banquet Meal]

Fair enough.


Even aside from worst case scenarios like human trafficking, at least real people aren't degrading themselves, sinning, and perpetuating a vile industry with hentai. It's still bad but is by far the lesser evil.

i dont know about that....a lot of it seems (to me) to feature very young or under age girls, and that is disgusting whether real or drawn. like a loophole just to enjoy child porn almost.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

i dont know about that....a lot of it seems (to me) to feature very young or under age girls, and that is disgusting whether real or drawn. like a loophole just to enjoy child porn almost.

Which is obviously quite immoral and may inculcate actual pedophilic desires, which is why it shouldn't be excluded from a total porn ban (which is what ideally should happen), but the reality is regardless of how obscene and degenerate it is it's still fiction. I'm sure someone will ignore my strongly worded condemnation of it and focus on the fact that I said it's fiction, but that's the brass tacks.

At the end of the day it's not your daughter sucking some nigger's cock to fund her heroine addiction, it's some unrealistic looking Digimon girl fucking a robot monster or something, and so it's simply a lesser evil. I can't stress enough that it deserves a ban too, but I'm not going to equate it with actual pornography in terms of tangible impact on society.

 

[whatchamacallit]

i dont know about that....a lot of it seems (to me) to feature very young or under age girls, and that is disgusting whether real or drawn. like a loophole just to enjoy child porn almost.

meanwhile on pornhub:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/pornhub-parent-company-admits-receiving-proceeds-sex-trafficking-and-agrees-three-year

https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/lawsuits-claim-pornhub-visa-hedge-funds-profited-child-abuse-2024-06-14/

They had to BALEET 80% of videos on their website over this and this is only the tip of the iceberg. The porn industry is straight up evil and some jap's drawings simply cannot compare.

 

[TenMilesWide]

Not exclusive to hentai but some of the most fascinating examples I've seen posted around are those where what could have been a quite chilling horror plot gets squandered as backdrop for coom fantasy instead.
It's like if I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream veered off after the first few pages into everybody raping Ellen in graphic detail, or if Stephen King's It had a child gangbang every time the clown appeared instead of just the one.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

Why on god's green earth are you people trying to fit chickens into business attire?

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Why on god's green earth are you people trying to fit chickens into business attire?

Because the internet has ruined people.
When naked ape stops doing business to become degenerate; someone must put the tie on and become responsible.

 

[Staticness]

If it’s an English dub and you see Pete Meat in the VA credits, just turn the screen off and listen. The roster of VAs for those turn every production into Ghost Stories-lite. Someone sounding like a bad Grey DeLisle impression declaring “this is the infamous bondage mansion” completely seriously with half-hearted grunts in the background is peak comedy.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

It's all pornography.

A nude body is not pornography, in and of itself. That's a purely modern mindset, influenced heavily by modern church mentalities.
Pornography is mostly about intent. Those old paintings of mundane activities with nude bodies were not made that way to tittilate your little pee-pee.

That being said, the direct image of penetration and the obvious tentacle rape are definitely pornography and I don't know what Null is smoking.

 

[NerfEverything]

A nude body is not pornography, in and of itself. That's a purely modern mindset, influenced heavily by modern church mentalities.
Pornography is mostly about intent. Those old paintings of mundane activities with nude bodies were not made that way to tittilate your little pee-pee.

That being said, the direct image of penetration and the obvious tentacle rape are definitely pornography and I don't know what Null is smoking.

I disagree with you on that first point. Here's someones more informed opinion.

https://www.fondthinker.com/art/was-renaissance-art-pornographic/

"The goddess Venus is depicted. Venus of Urbino is the title of the painting yet without the title one would never know it was Venus. Here there is no allegory or parable or sublimation even making use of myth. This painting has a different function to that of David and The Sistine Madonna: to arouse. The “hook” and halo effect are reasons for Michelangelo and Raphael, but excuses for Titian. What is rationalised as a mythic work of a Goddess has all the domesticity of a mortal. Consider the pet dog, the fleeting nature of beauty symbolised in the roses she holds (not the immortality of an immortal being in heavens), and the anonymous maid and maiden figuring in the background. For an Italian audience, the Greek subject is even put into the Italianate countryside. She gazes askance and invitingly for men"

TLDR; Purpose is titilation, thus its porn by the webster definition of the word and your own. Past men wanted their pee-pee to be titilated as much as present ones and sex has always sold.



Null isn't smoking anything his views aren't informed by objective reality but by a disgust for our deviant world and for the need of going back to a more innocent one in the past. So he sees history through rose tinted glasses so he can advocate a return to it. Anything that doesn't fit into this is disregarded.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

Here's someones more informed opinion

Literally who?
There's a lot of word salad in there.

The first few paragraphs even exemplifies my own point:

Some Renaissance art was pornographic, some erotic, and some spiritual – yet all were sexual.

Sexual is not inherently pornographic. Some were, some weren't. You're taking this piece and literally saying it's all pornographic. You are wrong by the literal definition of the word and by your own citation.

 

[NerfEverything]

Sexual is not inherently pornographic. Some were, some weren't. You're taking this piece and literally saying it's all pornographic. You are wrong by the literal definition of the word and by your own citation.

No, I'm taking this piece and saying the naked Venus chick is porn and the naked venus chick basically looks like my naked chick+Cupid one as well as it being similar to the Playboy vintage.

Some Renaissance art was pornographic, some erotic, and some spiritual – yet all were sexual.

Apparently the guy literally bought it to his young wife to hang in their room potentially to teach her how he wanted her. You dont get more titilating than that.

"The purpose of the artwork is sexual pleasure. This is evident even in its commission for a wedding box – it was to serve as a “model” to the Duke Commissioner’s young bride. If there is a message in that, it is probably for an actual woman to provide as much sexual pleasure as the painted nude; a very different meaning from the sublimated erotic in the prior works of Raphael and Michelangelo."

lol. Anyway I dont get this need to hold our ancestors up this untouchable ideal. They were as horny as us if not more simply cause there was less to do. They just didn't go full degen the way Hentai does.