USA Cardinal Prevost elected Pope Leo XIV - HABEMUS PAPAM

By Joshua McElwee May 8, 20251:20 PM EDTUpdated 4 min ago


Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost poses after being elevated to the rank of cardinal at the Vatican, September 30, 2023.

VATICAN CITY, May 8 (Reuters) - USA Cardinal Robert Prevost was elected the new pope and leader of the Roman Catholic Church on Thursday and has taken the name Pope Leo XIV a senior cardinal announced to crowds in St. Peter's Square.
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[Großmann]

It's an interesting question. Judas had free will but God knew what Judas would do because he's omniscient.

There’s an interesting philosophical idea known as Molinism, where the gist is that God’s providence works through all possibilities, which means that humanity can exercise its free will but that there is no possibility that God has not planned for. It’s an interesting alternative to Armenianism and Calvinism.

This thread is for discussing the article. If the next pope is going to advocate for my extinction then I'm going to discuss it. You have your Catholics-only circle jerk thread, this one is neutral. You'll kiss the feet of a murderer and shun the victim's family, I'm so fucking sick of you.

You’re not discussing the pope. You’re sperging about white genocide. If it matters to you, then go and spend some simple bucks on everyone’s maiden of whiteness.

 

[insensitive]

Then what's your problem with race mixing? I thought you wanted to genocide other races you libtard!

Why create a new problem instead of dealing with the old one?

At most, that's leveling the playing field. It's whites who have been dropping the ball by having so few kids. We have no one to blame for mass migration but ourselves.

I CAN PUT YOU AND A BURGER AND EAT YOU. You are cattle.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Let’s see what the Daily Beast says

https://www.thedailybeast.com/read-pope-leos-full-speech-here-new-american-pope-trolls-trump-in-very-first-speech/

New American Pope Trolls Trump in Very First Speech​

Pope Leo XIV quoted his predecessor by telling the world to “build bridges,” not walls.​

“We must seek together how to be a missionary Church, a Church that builds bridges, dialogue, [and is] always open to receive—like this square, with open arms—everyone, all those who need our charity, our presence, dialogue, love," he said.

Francis, often called the “People’s Pope,” often countered Trump’s anti-undocumented immigrant campaign slogan “Build the Wall” by urging global leaders to instead “build bridges.”

“‘Build bridges, not walls,’ was an exhortation he repeated many times,” Cardinal Re said when he delivered the late pontiff’s homily.

The new Holy Father payed tribute to Francis in a speech honoring the world’s migrants. Francis, who was a migrant himself having been born in Argentina, was the world’s first Latin American pope.

“Help us too, then, each other, to build bridges... uniting all of us to be one people, always in peace,” Leo XIV added. “Thank you to Pope Francis.”

Read Leo XIV’s full speech below:

In Italian:

Peace be with you all!

Dearest brothers and sisters, this is the first greeting of the risen Christ, the good shepherd who laid down his life for the flock of God.

I too would like this greeting of peace to enter your hearts, to reach your families, to all people, wherever they may be, to all nations, to the whole earth.

Peace be with you!

This is the peace of the risen Christ—a disarmed peace and a disarming peace, humble and persevering. It comes from God, God who loves us all, unconditionally.

We still keep in our ears that weak, but always courageous voice of Pope Francis, who blessed Rome. The Pope who blessed Rome gave his blessing to the world, to the whole world, that morning of Easter Sunday.

Allow me to continue that same blessing.

God loves us. God loves you all. And evil will not prevail. We are all in the hands of God.

Therefore, without fear, united, hand in hand with God and among ourselves, let us go forward.

We are disciples of Christ. Christ precedes us. The world needs his light. Humanity needs him as the bridge to be reached by God and his love.

Help us too, then, each other, to build bridges—with dialogue, with encounter—uniting all of us to be one people, always in peace.

Thank you to Pope Francis.

I also want to thank all my brother cardinals who have chosen me to be the successor of Peter and to walk together with you as a united Church, always seeking peace, justice, always trying to work as men and women faithful to Jesus Christ, without fear, to proclaim the Gospel, to be missionaries.

I am a son of Saint Augustine, an Augustinian, who said: With you I am a Christian, and for you a bishop. In this sense, we can all walk together toward that homeland which God has prepared for us.

To the Church of Rome—a special greeting. We must seek together how to be a missionary Church, a Church that builds bridges, dialogue, always open to receive—like this square with open arms—everyone, all those who need our charity, our presence, dialogue, love.

And allow me also a word, a greeting to all those, in a particular way, to my beloved Diocese of Chiclayo:

In Spanish:

To all those and in a particular way to my beloved diocese of Chiclayo in Peru, where a faithful people has accompanied their bishop, has shared their faith. So much, so much to continue being a faithful church of Jesus Christ.

To all of you, brothers and sisters of Rome, of Italy, of all the world, we want to be a synodal church, a church that walks together, a church that always seeks peace, always seeks charity, always seeks to be close especially to those who suffer.

On the Day of Supplication to Our Lady of Pompeii, Our Mother must always walk with us, be close, help us with her intercession and her love. Now I would like to pray with you, let us pray together.

In Italian:

From Italy, from all over the world, we want to be a synodal Church, a Church that walks together, a Church that always seeks peace, always seeks charity, always seeks to be close especially to those who suffer. Today is the day of supplication to Our Lady of Pompeii.

Our Mother Mary always wants to walk with us, to be close, to help us with her intercession and her love. So I would like to pray together with you.

Let us pray together for this new mission, for the whole Church, for peace in the world, and let us ask for this special grace from Mary, our Mother. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

 

[French Dip]

There’s an interesting philosophical idea known as Molinism, where the gist is that God’s providence works through all possibilities, which means that humanity can exercise its free will but that there is no possibility that God has not planned for. It’s an interesting alternative to Armenianism and Calvinism.


You’re not discussing the pope. You’re sperging about white genocide. If it matters to you, then go and spend some simple bucks on everyone’s maiden of whiteness.

This discussion is exactly about the pope and what he wants for my people. It does matter to me and I do plenty to help my people. It's not exactly wise to talk about who you've donated to these days if you're white, btw. I could get fired, which means it will be even longer before I can afford to have kids.

 

[Justice Tony]

So if the Nigerians were going extinct would you be upset?

Are they being replaced by Catholics? If so, I don't give a shit. If not and the Nigerians in question are Catholic, then yes.

All I want is safe homelands for my people. I just want my people to be left alone. If this was happening to anyone else you'd care but when it happens to white people, you tell them they deserve it. I don't even want anything bad to happen for foreigners, I just don't want them in my homeland. Why is that so evil that it justifies your hatred?

You're wrong. I literally only care when this happens to Catholics. I literally, could not give any less of a fuck about race. I hate 1488 faggots, or rather I struggle to love 1488 faggots, such as yourself because you stand in the way of what I want: a Catholic world.

Why create a new problem instead of dealing with the old one?

Race mixing is a problem?

I CAN PUT YOU AND A BURGER AND EAT YOU. You are cattle.

The fuck does that even mean?

I could get fired, which means it will be even longer before I can afford to have kids.

So money is more important than saving the white race? If you really wanted to save the white race you'd just go on welfare and pump out kids. Sure, they may grow up to be little shits but hey this is a numbers game.

 

[French Dip]

Are they being replaced by Catholics? If so, I don't give a shit. If not and the Nigerians in question are Catholic, then yes.

You're wrong. I literally only care when this happens to Catholics. I literally, could not give any less of a fuck about race. I hate 1488 faggots, or rather I struggle to love 1488 faggots, such as yourself because you stand in the way of what I want: a Catholic world.

Race mixing is a problem?

The fuck does that even mean?

So money is more important than saving the white race? If you really wanted to save the white race you'd just go on welfare and pump out kids. Sure, they may grow up to be little shits but hey this is a numbers game.

>what does that mean
Your lack of understanding is the perfect response. You are the definition of cattle. Get in the burger.

 

[Sho'nuff]

No, I was just confused by the way you worded your post. You're saying you like him because he's not doing it out of ignorance but of malevolence, right?

I think you mean benevolence but yes.
And I don't know him enough to like him or not, I can respect his opinion more because I believe it comes from an actual place of good, I hope. Again I don't know him but I give men and women of the cloth the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

 

[Justice Tony]

>what does that mean
Your lack of understanding is the perfect response. You are the definition of cattle. Get in the burger.

I understand what the words mean faggot I just didn't expect to be dealing with a cannibal. I will admit it is hilarious though.

 

[TrinityReformed]

I think you mean benevolence but yes.
And I don't know him enough to like him or not, I can respect his opinion more because I believe it comes from an actual place of good, I hope. Again I don't know him but I give men and women of the cloth the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

But did you not just say illegal immigration is a political tool that causes damage to communities and the tax base? Why would you say benevolence then?

 

[Chuckwagon]

The vatican didn't stand up because they had balls, they stood up because they knew they had the upper hand with the people's wide support and were nigh untouchable. Its extremely fucking easy to act all high and mighty when you're untouchable. It was basically

Its the equivallent of a toddler that knows his parents aren't actually going to sell him to the gypsies continuing to throw a fit after not getting his candy because he knows all the threats are empty.

The orthodox churches bent the knee to the ottomans and the soviets because neither of them would have a problem executing every single person involved, razing the churches to the ground and melting all the relics for gold.

Put the vatican in a non favourable sitiuation like the orthodox churches was and you'll see how quickly it would have folded too.

The Vatican actually didn't have 'widespread' support at that time though. Italian society was divided and if anything, leaning towards the side of the secular authority of the Italian Kingdom; not only were the Italians able to capture Rome itself by force fairly easily (if Pope Pius IX had enjoyed the same sort of massive popular support medieval Popes like Innocent III could've called upon, the army defending Rome would've been much larger and had more actual Italians instead of having such disproportionately large contingents of Catholic volunteers from abroad, both the Swiss Guard and the Pontifical Zouaves) but, obviously, Italy did not experience any civil war or even small revolts in support of the dethroned Popes until the Lateran Treaty. This, even though the royal government did pass anticlerical legislation, such as refusing to extend civil recognition to parish weddings.

Also no less a hero of the national unification campaign than Garibaldi himself ended up wanting to abolish the Papacy entirely. Many Italian liberals of his time, whether accomodationist toward the monarchy or of a more firmly republican persuasion, thought much the same way since Pius IX refused to be their puppet during the failed 1848 revolution and especially since he quadrupled down on rejecting Italian state authority even after being defeated militarily.

There have also certainly been other instances of both the Papacy itself and entire country-sized Catholic communities resisting secular tyranny which they had little chance of fighting off effectively, to the death if need be. While it was still under Byzantine authority and threatened by the barbarian Lombards (who were Arian heretics at the time) - a temporal situation arguably worse than what the Prisoners in the Vatican dealt with - the Papacy consistently opposed the Emperors' adoption of the Monothelite heresy throughout the 7th century even at the cost of Pope Martin I being tortured, nearly executed and finally deposed & exiled to die in Crimea, and eventually won that struggle.

Under Popes like Gregory III they were similarly consistently hostile to Iconoclasm from start to finish a century later (and even before the Franks grew strong enough to be of any help to them - they were still under Byzantine suzerainty for much of this time period), which got Papal properties in southern Italy & jurisdiction over the Church in the western Balkans (Illyricum) seized and handed over by the arch-iconoclast Emperor Leo III to the latter's lapdog, Patriarch Anastasius; of course, the iconoclast side lost in the end, as can be evidenced from the Orthodox's own lovely icons. And Japan's probably the most famous case of a Catholic community being repressed to the point of public extermination from the 17th century onward, with not even any negotiations or compromises attempted with the Vatican, yet still some Catholics chose to linger in secrecy at great risk to themselves all the way to the re-legalization of Catholicism in that country in the 19th century.

 

[Positron]

 

[Sho'nuff]

But did you not just say illegal immigration is a political tool that causes damage to communities and the tax base? Why would you say benevolence then?

Because I don't think his support is political. I also think that the full breadth of his beliefs brought to reality would negate the reasons why illegal immigration is actually harmful.

 

[X Prime]

Well of course the new Pope won't fuck Loomer, she's a legal adult!

 

[Justice Tony]

Well of course the new Pope won't fuck Loomer, she's a legal adult!

Weird way to say he is celibate and she is ugly.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

The Vatican actually didn't have 'widespread' support at that time though. Italian society was divided and if anything, leaning towards the side of the secular authority of the Italian Kingdom;

Divided between theocrats and religious secularists is still a hillariously superior position to be in than "Atheists that want to raze you to the ground" and "Muslims that want to rape you and then raze you to the ground."

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

Saw this on the tv earlier at a hotel... not surprised at all, but still highly disappointed. Another pro child rapist, invader loving, Muslim worshipping heretic is now pope, and to top it off he isn't actually American, he's a fucking "Peruvian". What a god damned tragedy. Can't wait to see him offer choir boys as fuck meat to mudslime invaders! Gotta make sure heretics are nice and comfy.

RIP Catholic Church at this point, one of the first things I saw was him gushing over "inclusivity". I wonder if Catholics will grow the spine to oust the Pope, or if they will eagerly take another few decades of a worthless cunt corrupting everyhing about the church.

 

[GettrGriftr]

Question: Prevost's predecessor in name, Leo XIII, was a full supporter of, and stated as dogmatically as one can get, the l-o-n-g-held (going back even before Trent) declaration of extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. Now I'm told that that's no longer dogma in the Roman church (I even heard that nun what founded EWTN say it was a "heresy" in the church).

If the Authentic Magesterium is considered binding throughout time and, since the First Vatican Council, that the Bishop of Rome is infallible when speaking on matters of faith, doctrine, and morals, is extra Ecclesiam nulla salus still binding on the Roman church? If so, how is that answer squared with the documents that came out of the Second Vatican Council and the subsequent statements and actions of the post-VC II bishops of Rome.

If not and church has changed its mind on that, doesn't that rather soil the Magesterium and even mean that the dogma of papal infallibility is wrong?

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Fun fact: many lolcows are direct descendants of Judas. Chris Chan, Cyraxx, Danderson. Not Bossmanjack though. BMJ is based.

If Judas was truly BMJ's ancestor he would have gambled those 30 pieces of silver instead of killing himself out of regret.

disproportionately large contingents of Catholic volunteers from abroad, both the Swiss Guard and the Pontifical Zouaves

There is more reasons to use the Swiss Guard than just unable to recruit locally. Using locals as your bodyguards is a very bad idea because they are way more invested in the local politics because they often have powerful friends and relatives who would use their help to make powerplays. It is one of the reason why the Pretorians kept killing Emperors and doing their own thing. Hiring foreigner mercenaries of your own faith tend to be safer because they are removed from the local squabbling and are only loyal to their employer because he pays them, is the head of their faith, and they pride themselves on their reputation of being elite bodyguards. It's why the Swiss and Varangian guard have a much better track record than the Pretorians.

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

No he wasn't. He was talking about building his church on the rock, Peter.

no he wasn't. The rock he was talking about was Mt hermon. Read matthew.

the old testamebt specifically says christ is the cornerstone.

Jesus was talking about Mt hermon. That's where they were standing

He gave Peter the keys to heaven as the leader of the church while Christ reigned in Heaven.

The Word is the key to heaven. The epistles

Christ isn't on earth you dope.

He doesn't need to be. First, He is I'm all places at once. That's what omniscience is. Second, He doesn't need to be here to fulfill His role. He tells us this and Paul explains this in Hebrews

Christ said He fulfilled the law. The need for an earthly priest us an old covenant law. Christ fulfills that. The veil is torn. "It is finished"

He isn't speaking to you, you don't hear him,

He has but even if He hadnt, His words are documented for all to read

so whatever you think he's telling you is schizophrenia.

yeah thats what the pharisees tried to say about those He helped and healed. They thought it was witchcraft and possession

You have no faith and thats why you need a snake priest to be the keeper of your religion

He left learned people to guide you to him

Indeed. Those people are no longer living. Tge learned people He left behind were apostles, who wrote down everything we need.

and follow in his ways because he knew that the church would splinter

right. Catholics did that

Thats why jesus called peter satan. Jesus foresaw the heresies that would be committed un Peter's name

the church wasnt splintered until europeam pagans started making up theirvown laws and acting like pharisees

and die without leadership

Jesus was the leader.

and knowledge in a world where less than 5 percent of the whole human race was literate.

Yes catholics burning people for having non Latin bibles certainly helped

Christ aleady accounted for illiteracy of the time and he knew when that would no longer be an issue. That's why He came when he did at that specific place. He set that in motion at the beginning of time.

That is by His design, he didn't need a roman pagan to hold His hand through it.

He called catholics vipers. Good enough for me

 

[The Saltening]

another pope coming in to tell white people to import infinity niggers into their countries so they can be raped, murdered, and replaced.

FUCK this guy. FUCK francis. They can both burn in hell.

FUCK OFF