India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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I think your coming at this with alot of emotion and passion, witch I respect, but I dont think it makes for a super productive conversation.

Im guessing you know a bit more history than some but your much more focused on the military end of things without realizing thats maybe 1/6th possibly less of what goes into running a nation, let alone an empire.

Rome overextend its borders while having to many slaves and a incompetent political system when it was hit by years of Vandal, Mongol, and Germanic raids simplifying it down to one element shows me how much of the larger picture you haven't colored in yet

Even then the east still continued on in one form or another for nearly another 1,000 years
I wouldn't have brought it up, but you made the mistake twice, both in the PM to me and in your post.
Also "Mongol Raids"?
What the fuck are you talking about?
I was unaware that the fucking Mongol Empire invaded Rome. Did Genghis Khan perhaps use his fucking time machine?
You fucking retard.
 
Is this war an actual war yet? I haven't seen anything in the MSM about updates, is this just another glorified border skirmish?
Well you don't usually have aircraft combat losses in border skirmishing, so whatever label you want to stick on it is above that at least. While I'm bullish on calling it a war and expect it to keep escalating, my arbitrary line for that is still an actual troop movement over the border from either side. If the troop movement occurs in the disputed region, I bump that up to being a "Major" troop movement, as opposed to just a company or two seizing some bumfuck border hovels.
 
I wouldn't have brought it up, but you made the mistake twice, both in the PM to me and in your post.
Also "Mongol Raids"?
What the fuck are you talking about?
I was unaware that the fucking Mongol Empire invaded Rome. Did Genghis Khan perhaps use his fucking time machine?
You fucking retard.
Huns buddy, huns, sorry to confuse ya, I also could have been more clear by saying "roman territory".
 
Well you don't usually have aircraft combat losses in border skirmishing, so whatever label you want to stick on it is above that at least. While I'm bullish on calling it a war and expect it to keep escalating, my arbitrary line for that is still an actual troop movement over the border from either side. If the troop movement occurs in the disputed region, I bump that up to being a "Major" troop movement, as opposed to just a company or two seizing some bumfuck border hovels.
So the plane thing is actually true? I assumed it was bullshit like the Ukraine/Russia Prop of each side blowing up a 1000 planes and tanks a day.
 
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Guess who people do remember,
Vlad the Impaler.

I get it, it's a cool idea to think that only the people living in the golden mean will be remembered as the great people of history, but it is not true. Let's not even get into all the morally upstanding and strong people who were killed because they stopped seeing the other person as an enemy just for a moment.
 
Vlad the Impaler.

I get it, it's a cool idea to think that only the people living in the golden mean will be remembered as the great people of history, but it is not true. Let's not even get into all the morally upstanding and strong people who were killed because they stopped seeing the other person as an enemy just for a moment.
Hitler, Mao, Emperor Leopold, Attila, Vlad, any spartan

read whole statement my man, some of the "mean ones" are remembered

but they never built anything, they have no great works they funded, they have no great accomplishment to point to, they come from dust and return to dust with no one but their slain to remember them beyond name and kill count
 
You think when Washington was in Valley Forge he was like "Yea its cold and im starving but thank god I dont have any men in dresses I need to deal with"
Yes.
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Does anyone remember Caracalla or how about Galba? No they dont, the ones that do are the sick puppys wanting to emulate them or the nerd losers trying to learn from history. Guess who people do remember, Julius Caesar, Markus Aurelius, Augustus. Why? was it beacuse they were the most feared or hated or most physically powerful?

No! it was they were kind, compassionate, forgiving while also being cunning, strong, and capable. Goodness does not mean weakness, I know it sounds lame and gay and like a fake Disney plot line but check the scoreboard and see just how many of the "mean people" history cares to even remember, the few that do are given no more than a kill count and a name.

Love is unironically creation
Hate is unironically destruction
This is without a doubt one of the dumbest posts I've ever read on this website, even dumber than that retarded gay communists posts about "muh neo-colonialism". It's so stupid I'm half convinced you're a troll, but there's a chance I could be wrong and you're just a genuine idiot, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Caesar waged a civil war for power after illegally invading Gaul, attacking Roman allies and enslaving hundreds of thousands. Augustus had political enemies killed to gain power and become the first emperor of Rome. They were not kind, compassionate or forgiving. They were "mean people" who did what they had to to achieve their goals. History is full of men like this. Trajan, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, I could go on and on. The world shakers were not nice people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sperg about how hate is totally cool and awesome like some edgy faggot, it's far more complicated than that, but boiling it down to "LOVE = GOOD! HATE = BAD!" is stupid. You don't know your history, you're talking out your ass and it shows.
doe that mean universal acceptance and tolerance of everything without question or evaluation? absolutely not. It means when you find yourself at an impass of opinion with another person or group and you feel the animosity boiling into hate Id challenge you this, try to find the single thing in this apparent "opponent" you could see in yourself. It dosent have to be big at all, maybe you can just think for a moment to a time when you might have been to caught up in a personal issue it felt others were not understaning and became unreasonable as a result, are the situations comparable? hell no but in that moment you stopped seeing the other person as an enemy just for a moment and were able to empathize, if not agree with, a very human mindset.
Have you been to a major city within the last 15 years? Have you been in the military or spoken with veterans? Have you met people who are not from your own background? I have. I applaud you for your kindness. Genuinely. I wish it was something I hadn't lost, but the fact of the matter is there are people out there who westerners have NOTHING in common with. I have nothing in common with an Afghan goat herder who practices Bacha Bazi, I have nothing in common with an Iraqi who believes child marriage is ok, I have nothing in common with a Pakistani who tells me my people are inferior to his and he's praying to his god for the downfall of my country despite having lived here for 21 years. Fact of the matter is every other group out there has a tribalistic mindset where their religion, people and culture take precedence over mine, and I'm in the wrong for thinking I have nothing in common with these people?
Civil rights? Trannys? these are the hills you die on in the name of anger and bitterness? Social domestic issues? 80 years ago guys were bleeding out in muddy trenches to stop people they would never meet from being exterminated and you wanna cry about DOMESTIC SOCIAL ISSUES?

What men like Metternich and Bismark would have done for those challenges instead of crumbling monarchies and collapsing empires.

You think when Washington was in Valley Forge he was like "Yea its cold and im starving but thank god I dont have any men in dresses I need to deal with"

Wonder if during the Bronze Age Collapse the 8-10% of remaining humanity from the destroyed regions was huddled in a ramshackle campsite saying "well at least we dont have to deal with darkies asking for rights"
What the fuck kind of dogshit point are you trying to make? Foreigners coming to my country and demanding the institution of Sharia Law isn't an issue because there are wars happening? People being murdered in my country's street isn't an issue because you think it's not as serious as a world war or a rebellion? Children as young as 10 being groomed into believing they're girls instead of boys or vice versa because they played with a barbie instead of a fire truck once isn't an issue because there were worse events throughout history? Take a look at crime statistics, take a look at who's committing them and why they're committing them, take a look at the donations on Karmelo Anthony's page, look at what they say and tell me celebrating a murder because of the victims race isn't an issue.
 
If an Iranian fighter jet flew over my city and bombed it before the pilot had to bail out from the jet and parachuted down and I found him wounded on the ground like in the video I would try and do all I could to render the man aid and get him to medical help.

Its about being better than the people you claim to hate, anyone can be cruel especially when its considered acceptable by most, its when you decide to show compassion and kindness when it isent deserved that you can make a difference.

Dont tell me how to understand what I saw with my own eyes, when push comes to shove humanity almost always shows up even if its only in the smallest of ways, dosent matter if its in Shreveport or in Basra. These people may have diffrent cultures and diffrent lifestyles than us and you may look down on them for that or other reasons but dont for a moment forget these are your own brothers in life and no amount of hate will ever change the DNA that binds us all together as a species.

You must be made of something else buddy, cause I wept like a little girl carrying that heavy box out of the vets office, you think I have any less capacity for my fellow man?

No one every built a lasting empire on death and hate, only by forgiveness and diplomacy.
why are you here? Fuck it, anyone that bombs me is going to get his nails pulled out and sodomized with a spiked board.
 
That is 100% a valid concern, however, Devil's advocate here, if someone IS going to lob a nuke I think a lot of people would rather it be one shithole at another. "And nothing of value was lost" as the meme goes.
Probably a retarded opinion, but out of all the countries apart from the US, on a global scale India and Pakistan are probably the two countries I feel safest about using nuclear weapons.

One of the big concerns with Nuclear Weapons isn't just dropping them on the enemy they've targeted, but its someone deciding that this is their death knell and firing a few off at anyone else they have a grudge against. India and Pakistan hate each other so much that I'm fairly confident they would dump their entire arsenals into each other without bothering to toss one over at China/Japan/Australia/SEA, etc.

In other words: Total Jeet Death.
 
going to keep it a buck im BLOWN away how well the pakis were treating him in this video
That's the only reason you're seeing the video. Remember all the reatards on tiktok who fell for the "OMG look at how nice that hamas terrorist is when releasing that woman he kidnapped at gunpoint from a peace festival where they murdered 1000 civilians and raped dozens!!! They must be the good guys!"

I think in actuality people are wise to this by now but that won't stop them from trying the same tactics.
 
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Indian drones dropping munitions on Lashkar e Taiba camp in Kotli

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Pakistan using Chinese-supplied 155mm SH-15 howitzers to fire on Indian military positions along the Line of Control
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Attacks on Pakistani posts

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Pakistan's air defence forces intercepting India's Israeli-origin Harop kamikaze drone attack over Lahore

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India intercepting Pakistani missiles/drones

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Chinese PL-15E long range air-to-air missile recovered almost intact from Hoshiarpur in Indian Punjab
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Did that chinese missile just fail to work or was it shot down?
 
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