Hentai is disgusting.

I dont get this need to hold our ancestors up this untouchable ideal.
There isn't a need to uphold anything. You're trying to pretend the very idea of painting someone in the nude is pornographic in nature when it isn't. Some is. Some. You're not fully understanding your own article that you cited. The article full of big words to sound smarter than it actually is.

Our ancestors were horny, yes, but pretending liking the female (or male) figure, even in the nude, is inherently pornographic is stupid.
 
There isn't a need to uphold anything. You're trying to pretend the very idea of painting someone in the nude is pornographic in nature when it isn't. Some is. Some. You're not fully understanding your own article that you cited. The article full of big words to sound smarter than it actually is.

Our ancestors were horny, yes, but pretending liking the female (or male) figure, even in the nude, is inherently pornographic is stupid.

And where the fuck did I say all of it was?
 
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And where the fuck did I say all of it was?
right here
It's all pornography.There's no difference between this vintage 1960's playboy pornography.

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And this

Here's someones more informed opinion.
Lmao. I figured you were trying to do some kind of appeal to authority by quoting some art history Postdoc but it really is just some random guys website. Is it your website?
I regret not experimenting and letting loose a lot more when I was young.
You should just divorce your partner and go have all that gay anonymous chem sex and go to all the piss parties you missed out on before your midlife crisis and spare them that much more pain.
 
right here

All that's been posted by me so far. This isn't pornography
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Because it has symbolic value. But if you were capable of any complex thought you'd understand the difference.
A woman laying on bed showing everything except her couchy in a more or less mundane situation together with the literary analogue of infatuation (Cupid) sitting naked beside couldn't be any more obvious. Its staring you in the face, if you weren't blind you could see it.


Lmao. I figured you were trying to do some kind of appeal to authority by quoting some art history Postdoc but it really is just some random guys website. Is it your website?
I wish it was.
Unlike you I've since at least Covid learned not to worship a title but take the message for what its worth. Your appeal to authority and of shooting the messenger is noted.
 
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All that's been posted by me so far. This isn't pornography
so youre just a pedantic asshole and a 2025 account but i repeat myself. got it.
I wish it was.
you should aim to shoot higher than a dead website with broken links in the about me page that amassed less than 200 facebook followers. but whatever good luck on the imminent midlife crisis fag and/or troon out. i hope you dont have kids so they dont have to suffer through it.
 
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so youre just a pedantic asshole and a 2025 account but i repeat myself. got it.

you should aim to shoot higher than a dead website with broken links in the about me page that amassed less than 200 facebook followers. but whatever good luck on the imminent midlife crisis fag and/or troon out. i hope you dont have kids so they dont have to suffer through it.
Appeal to authority, shooting the messenger and now Appeal to Popularity and ad hominem. One more and I got bingo.
 
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What a weird question.
It comes down to intent and context. The problem is that 90% of the nudity we see, nowadays, is directly intended for you to use as spank material.
And where the fuck did I say all of it was?
You gave examples of actual porn alongside non-porn and claimed it was all pornographic. You then linked some Literally Who's article where they didn't actually agree with what you were stating in the current conversation you were having.

You should look into and practice the art of proper hermeneutics. A good chunk of the things you're interpreting as pornographic simply aren't. A fertility goddess being depicted in the nude is inherently sexual but it is not inherently pornographic.
Furthermore, you, yourself, claim, rightfully, that our ancestors were less worried about nudity (and related) than we are, today. That's important context. I'll leave you to imagine why.
 
What a weird question.
It comes down to intent and context. The problem is that 90% of the nudity we see, nowadays, is directly intended for you to use as spank material.
But you didn't say "nudity", you said "sexual". While nudity isn't necessarily sexual, it's not weird to ask how something sexual isn't pornographic.
 
But you didn't say "nudity", you said "sexual". While nudity isn't necessarily sexual, it's not weird to ask how something sexual isn't pornographic.
Nudity is sexual, you dingus. An outfit can be sexual. Underwear models can be sexual. They're not inherently pornographic.

If your view is that something sexual is pornographic automatically then you're either completely lost to the coom or you've grown up with such a conservative mindset (I don't mean American politics conservative) that your view is skewn beyond repair.

The old style art that was being shown. Depicting people in the nude wasn't just a pornographic choice but also a stylistic one. A good portion of that art isn't pornographic but it is all sexual, by nature.
 
What a weird question.
It comes down to intent and context. The problem is that 90% of the nudity we see, nowadays, is directly intended for you to use as spank material.

You gave examples of actual porn alongside non-porn and claimed it was all pornographic. You then linked some Literally Who's article where they didn't actually agree with what you were stating in the current conversation you were having.

You should look into and practice the art of proper hermeneutics. A good chunk of the things you're interpreting as pornographic simply aren't. A fertility goddess being depicted in the nude is inherently sexual but it is not inherently pornographic.
Furthermore, you, yourself, claim, rightfully, that our ancestors were less worried about nudity (and related) than we are, today. That's important context. I'll leave you to imagine why.


Well that's like your opinion dude.
All the stuff I did post *was* and *is* pornographic because it demonstratably was and is intended to titilate based on obvious parallels to Playboy, the fact that there's a fucking naked Cupid in the picture or in the case of the other woman laying alone in bed based on both the analysis provided by the blog AND by the fact that it was a gift to a guys young bride without any symbolism present other than one of sex and fertility due to the fact that it is Venus, the goddess of sex and fertility.


So those are my arguments. What arguments except "no it isn't" do you have? Hmm?
 
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Well that's like your opinion dude.
All the stuff I did post *was* and *is* pornographic because it demonstratably was and is intended to titilate based on obvious parallels to Playboy, the fact that there's a fucking naked Cupid in the picture or in the case of the other woman laying alone in bed based on both the analysis provided by the blog AND by the fact that it was a gift to a guys young bride without any symbolism present other than one of sex and fertility due to the fact that it is Venus, the goddess of sex and fertility.


So those are my arguments. What arguments except "no it isn't" do you have? Hmm?
My man, you posted more than just your, "gotcha," of Venus on a bed so stop acting like that's the only thing we're discussing.
 
My man, you posted more than just your, "gotcha," of Venus on a bed so stop acting like that's the only thing we're discussing.


I posted two pictures of Venus (Cupid and not Cupid), the playboy porn and two pictures of Japanese porn which you already agree Null is wrong about. What more? The 10 000+ year old statues? I'll give you that none of us probably know what the fuck cavemen were thinking precisely.

So anything else?
 
I posted two pictures of Venus (Cupid and not Cupid), the playboy porn and two pictures of Japanese porn which you already agree Null is wrong about. What more? The 10 000+ year old statues? I'll give you that none of us probably know what the fuck cavemen were thinking precisely.

So anything else?
So you're going to, now, pretend like you weren't presenting those statues as pornographic because it's your weak point in your, "look at all this ancient porn I just found and posted?"

Got it. You're not here to talk, you're here to think you're right. Bye.
 
So you're going to, now, pretend like you weren't presenting those statues as pornographic because it's your weak point in your, "look at all this ancient porn I just found and posted?"

Got it. You're not here to talk, you're here to think you're right. Bye.
No, I was presenting those statues as pornographic. But I thought our discussion was centered on the reneissance painting.

If I thought you were talking about the statues I'd conceded the point earlier - which is that I'm not sure but I can still make the argument that this is the best some horny caveman could do. Don't get so upset. You kept arguing with me through the venus postings without mentioning the statues.

So maybe you're just using them as a fallback now, but thats fine.
 
FINE, I'LL JERK IT TO RENAISSANCE PAINTINGS AND STATUES OF WOMEN. Just stop with the sperging, in your fantasy land of porn being banned how do you deal with the people who use it as an outlet because they're fuck ugly, inbred and retarded, like the brown people who are on gibs in White people countries?
 
Nudity is sexual, you dingus.
Don't have kids then, changing an infant's diapers shouldn't be a sexual experience. Seeing naked toddlers in a commercial or movie taking a bath isn't sexual imagery. You're calling names and getting really heated because you're an incorrect retard.

Don't get so upset.
He's raging so hard :story:

Without neko shota the kiwi farms wouldnt exist, so be a bit more appreciative.
I hate that this is technically correct due to the butterfly effect.
 
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Don't have kids then, changing an infant's diapers shouldn't be a sexual experience. Seeing naked toddlers in a commercial or movie taking a bath isn't sexual imagery. You're calling names and getting really heated because you're an incorrect retard.


He's raging so hard :story:


I hate that this is technically correct due to the butterfly effect.
Its an unusual thing Ness, I think that we probably stand somewhat apart on our opinions on this topic but we agree completely on the definitions and framework of it while most posters struggle with the latter part. Why do you think that is?
 
If I thought you were talking about the statues I'd conceded the point earlier - which is that I'm not sure but I can still make the argument that this is the best some horny caveman could do.
these were fertility symbols, you retard....they were used by men and women in hopes of being able to have children. in fact, a lot of them were made by women.
 
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