Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Eventide]

They have been coded as space french.
The Empire is doing the right thing by genociding them instead of inflicting the Space French on an innocent, unsuspecting planet.

Space French/Swiss, but inexplicably with the societal customs of 5th Edition D&D Drow - where Drow are made less antisocial, and just become uppity assholes that look down on surface worlders/farm spiders for industry like making luxury silk fabrics/are surrounded by mineral riches they refuse to let surface worlders mine & will violently kill any non-Drow that enters their domain with the intention of mining said riches.

Actually, upon further thought (I seriously need to stop doing that...), was that one off half-Ghorman character that was friends with Mon Mothma/invited to her daughter's wedding, supposed to be a a joke alluding to half Drow? (...since D&D players love to make their elf characters half-Drow for the dark vision bonus)

Alderaan was a hub of rebel activity. You don't negotiate with terrorists. Especially since Leia had lied to them more than once. She was a rebel spy but denied it. She claimed to do her works under a flag of peace, but in reality, was meant to transport a Jedi General and the Death Star schematics to the Rebellion, which is anything but peaceful.

Would you treat in good faith with a known liar? At least the Empire can trust Jabba to transport their Dark Trooper components.

This. Alderaan had it coming.

 

[Arbiter]

Why does Disney hate Grievous so much? They pretend he doesn't exist and don't sell any merch of him, make almost no reference to him anywhere at their theme parks, aside from his kyber crystal and having his mask displayed on a wall. It sucks. Darth Maul gets an entire section dedicated to him in stores and has character actors. I think he might be in Star Tours as well.

 

[Ghostse]

This is pretty but i love calling out the hypocrisy of woke shit.

It's fascinating that disney would green light andor, a very obvious direct jab at all those people who think the empire is cool and sexy. "hey you chuds! The empire is heckin facists and evil and you can't just like them because they look cool". We know leftists have had a problem with people liking the empire for at least 10 years, and there's 0 chance disney weren't aware of that dynamic when making this shit given. Online culture war garbage has dictated basically every decision they've ever made with this franchise.

Then meanwhile they fill their parks with this shit.
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Kind of feels like they're glorifying something that represents heckin facism just because it looks cool and iconic? They don't have death eaters from harry potter running around do they?

Also why do they let people get assigned to play as facists in their battlefront vidya? I half expect extra credits to pop up and say "You didn't ask for this!!"

It really is just another reminder that leftists will trust a corporation or government entity with things they would never trust a normal citizen with.

There was a really gay Twitter post by the Rage Against the Machine front man going to Galaxy's Edge.
Like nigga you in RATM and you are crowing about getting your dick sucked by one of the most insidious corporations on earth. Post your walmart haul next.

 

[JayseeDenton]

There was a really gay Twitter post by the Rage Against the Machine front man going to Galaxy's Edge.
Like nigga you in RATM and you are crowing about getting your dick sucked by one of the most insidious corporations on earth. Post your walmart haul next.

I was jaw dropped trying to imagine Zack doing this, looked it up and it was tom which is unsurprising. Also he posted this gay shit.


After all these years i'm really starting to wonder exactly what "machine" they were talking about all this time.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

However it does make logical sense for there to be intensity settings, especially since they did a lot of workshopping and prototyping for the project in the actual Canon. It'd make sense to have lower intensity settings simply because in early testing it'd suck up all the power from the strong hypermatter reactor systems, and allignment tests if done wrong would rip the fucker apart.

That, and we saw on Endor the superlaser be used for blowing up warships, which is obviously below the firepower level of blowing up a planet.

Oh yeah, one more Death Star thing that makes it valuable: mobile prison fort. It even got used for that purpose too.

Battlefront 2 had a prison riot level on the Death Star.

As for the Empire bad, well no shit. It's funnier they don't understand that there's always a part of the fanbase that likes the baddies, and are maliciously retarded enough to want them to go away or feel shame in liking the product.

Well, the marketing guys in Disney don't care if you like the rebels or the Empire, just so long as you buy product. The liberal fans and producers, however, do not like it when you stand for the Empire. This isn't the old SWEU where different factions had their benefits and weaknesses. Lucas allowed Karen Traviss to badmouth the Jedi, allowed the SWEU authors to make the Empire half-sympathetic, allowed writers to portray Alliance/New Republic/Jedi characters to be portrayed in shades of gray or even negatively, it's not the same with the new canon where the Empire is either stupid evil or unforgivably evil, because they're afraid of what would happen if people start sympathizing with Space Nazis.

This. Alderaan had it coming.

Alderaan and the Jedi use the flag of peace and truce to hide things or gain an advantage against the enemy. It's basically the equivalent of using medics to assassinate people. If you keep doing that, the enemy will start shooting your medics. So in the same vein, the Empire responded to Alderaan using its status as a core world to hide rebel activity by just blowing them up.

The alternative would've been invading them, and it could've easily turned into a brutal slog like Geonosis was in AOTC.

Space French/Swiss, but inexplicably with the societal customs of 5th Edition D&D Drow - where Drow are made less antisocial, and just become uppity assholes that look down on surface worlders/farm spiders for industry like making luxury silk fabrics/are surrounded by mineral riches they refuse to let surface worlders mine & will violently kill any non-Drow that enters their domain with the intention of mining said riches.

The fact that they've produced luxury goods for a thousand years or more tells me that they should've had enough capital to arm themselves (which means they wouldn't need some Imperial double-agent to help them arm) and they should've had their own private fleet to move things around, like the Trade Federation. The Trade Federation is far younger than them (350 BBY) yet they had an entire warfighting navy and a massive army to go along with it.

The Ghorman response to the Imperial occupation should've been to attack the Empire long enough to cause a ruckus, then evacuate themselves and their spiders on some private fleet that disappears, especially since there's less than a million of them. Then down the line, the Rebel commandos who face the Empire have really stylish threads that are durable and comfy at the same time.

Why does Disney hate Grievous so much? They pretend he doesn't exist and don't sell any merch of him, make almost no reference to him anywhere at their theme parks, aside from his kyber crystal and having his mask displayed on a wall. It sucks. Darth Maul gets an entire section dedicated to him in stores and has character actors. I think he might be in Star Tours as well.

Because Grievous was made into a joke in TCW. Dooku, Maul, Anakin, Kenobi, were still serious fighters, whereas Grievous loses almost every one-on-one fight he goes into unless it's against some mauve-shirt or a one-off character meant to die.

I was jaw dropped trying to imagine Zack doing this, looked it up and it was tom which is unsurprising. Also he posted this gay shit.
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After all these years i'm really starting to wonder exactly what "machine" they were talking about all this time.

The corpo machine BEFORE they took over. Now the "machine" is the Republican establishment and all the rich people who AREN'T woke.

 

[Ghostse]

I was jaw dropped trying to imagine Zack doing this, looked it up and it was tom which is unsurprising. Also he posted this gay shit.
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After all these years i'm really starting to wonder exactly what "machine" they were talking about all this time.

And so you finally learn:
all is faggot

 

[BigBadBastich]

Why does Disney hate Grievous so much? They pretend he doesn't exist and don't sell any merch of him, make almost no reference to him anywhere at their theme parks, aside from his kyber crystal and having his mask displayed on a wall.

Grievous is a character created in a miniseries show by the same guy who made Dexters Lab and Samurai Jack. It predates Disney and was too stylized and cool so therefore it needs to be either ignored or discarded. Grievous for all intents and purposes, outside of ROTS is mostly a EU creation. Darth Maul was specifically retooled to be marketed under Filoni. Grievous meanwhile in his awful show is a joke, Saturday morning villain. They're never gonna show something fun or engaging like this, something that gives characters nuance and personality.

 

[Lorkhan187]

Got a question for everyone here and im curious about the answers.


Recently got into a good debate with a friend want to hear other peoples voices on this. when Mace Windu and the other jedi masters went to arrest Palpatine, when Mace realized he was to dangerous to be left alive and tried to kill him, was he still acting within the Jedi code. I've had the argument where people have told me no because Mace is taking a life and not doing everything he can to try and preserve his life, but then there's the matter of practicality where he is right in everything he says, not only is he to strong to be contained (he killed 4 jedi masters in 2 seconds, two of which were some of the strongest duelists of the era or at least top ranked fighters), he has full power over the senate, and the courts (if not near absolute control) and that's no including the other groups and the CIS which he still has under his influence. So at that point there is a argument to be made on that ground alone that Mace was in the right. But theres also the matter of the greater moral good, where Mace killing Palpatine now will obviously save more lives in the short term and long term future of the galaxy because that means Palpatine and his agents will be swiftly wiped out and the galaxy will return to some level of normalcy, in addition he will have killed the last sith lord from the rule of two, ending 1000 years of subversion of the galaxy and its societies.

For the sake of the argument lets ignore the fact Palpatine can revive himself as much as he wants with essence transfer to clones, and we cant use the logic of what happens after the scene where he dies. Is Mace Windu still acting within the jedi code, or was he being a maverick and acting out of line for the jedi code.

I personally stand by he didnt on the basis that Mace is acting as someone who already tried to do things peacefully, and in addition to that he is now wiping out a sith who has and will continue to kill people and is not willing to redeem himself.

But what does everyone else here think?

 

[GlupShitto]

Why does Disney hate Grievous so much? They pretend he doesn't exist and don't sell any merch of him, make almost no reference to him anywhere at their theme parks, aside from his kyber crystal and having his mask displayed on a wall. It sucks. Darth Maul gets an entire section dedicated to him in stores and has character actors. I think he might be in Star Tours as well.

I think it ultimately comes down to complexity of design and as such, the expense of creating merchandise based on him. At a quick estimate, a fully articulated Grievous action figure has about forty points of articulation, which is more than double what you see on a normal figure (looking at my Black Series Luke, he has fourteen by my count). That alone makes him more expensive to produce as an action figure, which is why they're almost always priced around ten dollars more than standard action figures. Also as the owner of a Black Series Grievous I don't even dare to breathe near, I can say with confidence that his design does not allow a toy of him to stand stably.

Similarly, a theme park walk-around would be borderline impossible because he's a CGI character who cannot work in the real world as anything more than a statue. There are cosplayers who have done Grievous, but none of them look right and afaik the Disney park characters wear 1:1 recreations of on screen costumes (I think I saw somewhere that the Stormtrooper armor is made from the same molds as the armor used for the new movies and shows) so anything short of perfect accuracy is unacceptable there.

Finally, I think a big part of why he's underutilized in fiction is because of that gay ass he can't meet Anakin before ROTS rule and 90% of prequel era stories are about Anakin. I will never understand that rule since ROTS implies he's also never met Obi-Wan.

 

[GlupShitto]

It's also probably because Maul was the face of the franchise between 1999 and 2002 so he's probably the third most recognizable Star Wars character behind Darth Vader and Baby Yoda/Grogu.

 

[Gondolindrim]

Grievous is a character created in a miniseries show by the same guy who made Dexters Lab and Samurai Jack. It predates Disney and was too stylized and cool so therefore it needs to be either ignored or discarded. Grievous for all intents and purposes, outside of ROTS is mostly a EU creation. Darth Maul was specifically retooled to be marketed under Filoni. Grievous meanwhile in his awful show is a joke, Saturday morning villain. They're never gonna show something fun or engaging like this, something that gives characters nuance and personality.

Grievous is a lot like Blade: He's just cool. Everything about him was designed to make little boys jump and scream in excitement or fearful awe. So naturally he's not allowed to be cool anymore. They've spent a very long time making him a joke and they even made him do a genocide just in case you didn't get the memo that he's not an approved character to like.

 

[Bulk Bogan]

the Covenant from Halo

Imma take issue with this, though I do see a bit of a theme with the Protoss (but I don't care about Starcraft). The Covenant looks like an army of candy striper space crabs/monkeys/crab monkeys, and is directly opposed by the faction with super slick clamshell armor and some of the most iconic helmet designs in fiction. Going by the Stormtrooper/Rebel slick threads scale the UNSC wins hands down, unless you like the amount of skin the Elites show, I guess. Going by weapon designs you have weird claw guns vs megabullpups, and again the UNSC wins.

was he still acting within the Jedi code.

Yes, full stop. Anakin was grasping at excuses to keep his precious Padame lifeline alive, not adhering to dogma.

 

[Arbiter]

I think it ultimately comes down to complexity of design and as such, the expense of creating merchandise based on him.

It's also probably because Maul was the face of the franchise between 1999 and 2002 so he's probably the third most recognizable Star Wars character behind Darth Vader and Baby Yoda/Grogu.

Yeah it still makes me mald though. Like at least put him in Star Tours with all of the other literally whos since that's fully CG. At least sell me some chinese crap with his face on it. I don't need a fully articulated fig, I already have the black series one (can confirm, it's hard to get it to balance). I just want a dumb plushie, or t-shirt, or ears, anything. They were even selling Babu Frik and Dok-Ondar dolls. I'll have to resort to etsy.

 

[William Murderface]

Got a question for everyone here and im curious about the answers.


Recently got into a good debate with a friend want to hear other peoples voices on this. when Mace Windu and the other jedi masters went to arrest Palpatine, when Mace realized he was to dangerous to be left alive and tried to kill him, was he still acting within the Jedi code. I've had the argument where people have told me no because Mace is taking a life and not doing everything he can to try and preserve his life, but then there's the matter of practicality where he is right in everything he says, not only is he to strong to be contained (he killed 4 jedi masters in 2 seconds, two of which were some of the strongest duelists of the era or at least top ranked fighters), he has full power over the senate, and the courts (if not near absolute control) and that's no including the other groups and the CIS which he still has under his influence. So at that point there is a argument to be made on that ground alone that Mace was in the right. But theres also the matter of the greater moral good, where Mace killing Palpatine now will obviously save more lives in the short term and long term future of the galaxy because that means Palpatine and his agents will be swiftly wiped out and the galaxy will return to some level of normalcy, in addition he will have killed the last sith lord from the rule of two, ending 1000 years of subversion of the galaxy and its societies.

For the sake of the argument lets ignore the fact Palpatine can revive himself as much as he wants with essence transfer to clones, and we cant use the logic of what happens after the scene where he dies. Is Mace Windu still acting within the jedi code, or was he being a maverick and acting out of line for the jedi code.

I personally stand by he didnt on the basis that Mace is acting as someone who already tried to do things peacefully, and in addition to that he is now wiping out a sith who has and will continue to kill people and is not willing to redeem himself.

But what does everyone else here think?

Palpy was still a threat. He loses his lightsaber and goes immediately to force lightning. It was powerful enough to melt his own face when turned back on him. Anakin shows up, Paply does the "I'm so weak so help me" plea, acts like he's on the last ropes, and the second Anakin lops off Windu's arm, Palpy's right back to blasting Windu out the window and then stands right back up like nothing ever happened. Windu was right. Palpy was simply too dangerous to be left alive.

 

[Lorkhan187]

Palpy was still a threat. He loses his lightsaber and goes immediately to force lightning. It was powerful enough to melt his own face when turned back on him. Anakin shows up, Paply does the "I'm so weak so help me" plea, acts like he's on the last ropes, and the second Anakin lops off Windu's arm, Palpy's right back to blasting Windu out the window and then stands right back up like nothing ever happened. Windu was right. Palpy was simply too dangerous to be left alive.

See that was my first thought on it to. One of the things my friend argued was if the Jedi are suppose to be a police force then Windu basically tried to execute a criminal after two gunfights. But i think hes just forgetting that his analogy doesnt work because Mace proceeds to sever both his hands Palpatine can still shoot out lightning whenever he feels like it. Then on top of it Mace is clearly not gunning to kill Palpatine out of any sense of emotion because hes there literally responding to Anakins flimsy excuses and then a moment after where hes still considering it.

 

[ThatAnimalBlundetto]

This is pretty but i love calling out the hypocrisy of woke shit.

It's fascinating that disney would green light andor, a very obvious direct jab at all those people who think the empire is cool and sexy. "hey you chuds! The empire is heckin facists and evil and you can't just like them because they look cool". We know leftists have had a problem with people liking the empire for at least 10 years, and there's 0 chance disney weren't aware of that dynamic when making this shit given. Online culture war garbage has dictated basically every decision they've ever made with this franchise.

Then meanwhile they fill their parks with this shit.
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Kind of feels like they're glorifying something that represents heckin facism just because it looks cool and iconic? They don't have death eaters from harry potter running around do they?

Also why do they let people get assigned to play as facists in their battlefront vidya? I half expect extra credits to pop up and say "You didn't ask for this!!"

It really is just another reminder that leftists will trust a corporation or government entity with things they would never trust a normal citizen with.

It's only a matter of time before the nu-fans start going after charity cosplayers for dressing up in realistic Imperial uniforms. The finger-wagging towards Empire fans has become absolutely insufferable since season 2 of Andor came out. These people cannot separate fiction from reality.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It's only a matter of time before the nu-fans start going after charity cosplayers for dressing up in realistic Imperial uniforms. The finger-wagging towards Empire fans has become absolutely insufferable since season 2 of Andor came out. These people cannot separate fiction from reality.

You're talking about the same people who named their daughters "Khaleesi" because they wanted their girls to grow up confident and strong, only to get distraught when the actual Khaleesi burned down her father's capital city.

These people need help.

 

[Adamska]

have told me no because Mace is taking a life

I hate this take so fucking much. Pacifism does not mean lie down like a bitch and take it. It doesn't mean you can't take a life if said life will go on to do more damage and has already attacked you. It means you don't start shit, you try other methods first, and then if that fails you fucking finish it.

One of the best quotes I remember from one of the people that worked on these was that pacifism is not just taking the other cheek, it's the ability to defend one's self and others. They have those sabers for a reason; that reason being that when talks won't work or if harm is to be done, you fucking end it.

What's next? Is Obi Wan supposed to anime talk Maul to death after he fucking killed Qui-Gon? Was he supposed to take that fucker in?

Awful take made by idiots who don't get that pacifism doesn't mean being a wall eyed cow fit for slaughter begging for its life. This is the same tard take the acolyte tried to gurgle about the Jedi before whining that they're the villains. You know, as written by the rape assister.

 

[Turkey Beef]

A friend of mine noted earlier today that normalfags, and especially zoomers, seem to like Revenge of the Sith a lot these days.

It's the better movie of the prequel trilogy, I guess. After two movies of pointless meandering, George actually gave the public some of the things we wanted to see.

Although Lucas went boomer tard mode and made Anakin kill the kids and the Clone Troopers kill the Jedi when it should have been the other way around. The original trilogy even says it was Anakin that hunted down the Jedi. Clone Troopers wouldn't have the skill to kill Jedi, but they could kill the younglings.

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

This is pretty but i love calling out the hypocrisy of woke shit.

It's fascinating that disney would green light andor, a very obvious direct jab at all those people who think the empire is cool and sexy. "hey you chuds! The empire is heckin facists and evil and you can't just like them because they look cool". We know leftists have had a problem with people liking the empire for at least 10 years, and there's 0 chance disney weren't aware of that dynamic when making this shit given. Online culture war garbage has dictated basically every decision they've ever made with this franchise.

Then meanwhile they fill their parks with this shit.
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Kind of feels like they're glorifying something that represents heckin facism just because it looks cool and iconic? They don't have death eaters from harry potter running around do they?

Also why do they let people get assigned to play as facists in their battlefront vidya? I half expect extra credits to pop up and say "You didn't ask for this!!"

It really is just another reminder that leftists will trust a corporation or government entity with things they would never trust a normal citizen with.

The easy solution would have been to make the good guys look cool too and give them their own super soldier power armor but they keep wanting to portray rebels as having awkwardly curved helmets and soft clothing despite having already defeated the Empire.