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NishiPhsyco said:
to be honest I did not expect David Pakman to be with destiny he sounds like a serious person I did not thnk he wants to accossite with detiny a man who is accused of sharing porn videos without consent
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I wouldnt be surprised if Destiny gaslit him into thinking the lawsuit is BS similar to Ethan. Also I dont think Pakmann is very invested in online drama in general so I dont doubt that he doesnt know a lot of the details.
 
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I'm just glad I'm able to finally post this David Pakman picture I screenshot a while ago
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Destiny had another soothe session about the case in chat last night.

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02:19 parkchan Destiny new court case memes?
02:19 Destiny parkchan at some point the memes have to go ahead and become dreams
02:19 Destiny these people are just filing the most random/non-sense shit
02:19 typez Destiny there is new shit today?
02:19 Destiny typez it's just all meme shit
02:19 Destiny like, filing declarations under seal, without even getting approval from the court
02:19 Destiny as part of these last minute motions
02:19 Destiny and they haven't even made info available to us
02:20 Destiny it's just meme retarded shit
02:20 Destiny like they are literally just ignoring emails from my lawyers
02:20 Destiny like I could be wrong but I think she is just reading this wrong
02:21 Destiny https://i.imgur.com/1Csz3Ap.png
02:21 Destiny the local rule she's citing is saying they can't file anything under seal that hasn't been approved by the court, if they file it, they have to redact EVERYTHING that's the subject of the motion until it's approved, right?
02:21 Destiny but they didn't do that, they just filed the motion with their own redactions
02:21 Destiny and haven't made anything available to us
02:21 Destiny or gotten approval from the Court
02:22 Destiny they are just spamming the docket with actual retarded shit
02:22 Destiny https://i.imgur.com/SIkotBp.png ?????
02:23 Destiny why does she think she can determine this on her own? without the Court even granting it
02:23 Destiny lol
02:22 artur Destiny yes they had to redact all of it it seems lmao
02:23 Destiny artur but they didn't redact it
02:23 Destiny all of those declarations are public
02:23 Destiny just waiting for the magistrate judge to rule on the PI, there's a non-zero chance the case can get tossed there, but we'll see
02:23 Destiny SLEEPSTINY
topthrill Destiny do you have a court date?
02:24 Destiny topthrill sometime next year
02:24 GoodGuy Creeper Destiny is there a point where you could counter sue for defamation because you and Jane Doe know youtubers will talk about it and it would affect your reputation and cause you financial harm?
02:24 Destiny GoodGuyCreeper you can't accuse people of defamation for what they put in a lawsuit, I believe
02:25 ManlyHoN Destiny the first rule sounds like its the reason they can redact stuff prior to a ruling on the ruling on a motion to file under seal. If they havent motioned to file under seal yet, its kind of just a minor procedural error no?
02:25 Destiny ManlyHoN my reading of it is that you have to redact the ENTIRE motion then, until the court rules on it being sealed or not
02:26 ManlyHoN Destiny "All content subject to the motion to file under seal" sounds like specific portions they want to seeal from public record
02:26 Destiny ManlyHoN it's not content subject to the motion that is going to have sealed info?
02:26 Destiny https://www.flsd.uscourts.gov/sites/flsd/files/2020-LocalRulesEffective12-01-2020-FINAL.pdf the full rule is here
02:26 Destiny on page 20
02:28 Damon Destiny doesnt under seal just mean its not public HmmStiny they still have to give to you and your lawyers or am i tripping HmmStiny
02:29 Destiny Damon yes they do
02:29 Destiny they haven't
02:29 Destiny they are just making up rules LULW
02:29 Destiny they said they would provide us, but they haven't
02:29 Destiny and now they're like "actually UHM, we don't have to"
02:29 Destiny “To be clear, because of your client’s statements related to Jane Doe and any potential witnesses, we had to file these under seal.Once the court rules on the motion, we will proceed accordingly. If the court grants the motion you will know their identities. Thankyou.”
02:29 Destiny like wait what, so they're saying, if the court DENIES their motion, they will just withdraw the declarations???
02:29 Destiny without ever providing us unredacted copies???????????????
02:29 Destiny ???????????????????????????
02:30 StarryEyed Wanderer Destiny why would the admission of a seal change the substance of the case? OMEGALUL
02:30 Destiny StarryEyedWanderer I don't think you can just have random, anonymous people filing shit anonymously/redacted with the court
02:30 Destiny just to see what sticks
02:30 Destiny it doesn't allow us an opportunity to present any counter evidence
02:30 Destiny or respond to anythign with substance
02:31 Whatsuplilgup Destiny does it even matter if it’s not accepted ?
02:31 Destiny Whatsuplilgup I mean if it's not accepted they can just withdraw their declarations for free?????
02:31 Destiny that's fucking stupid LULW
02:31 Destiny you can't just spam random shit at the court until something sticks/works
02:31 Whatsuplilgup Destiny i Mean true but it makes them stupid infront of the court no?
02:32 Destiny Whatsuplilgup they've already done that
02:32 Destiny waiting for the judge to finally make another ruling on what's been submitted so far because holy fuck
02:32 Unreal Phonkdev Destiny Susge I wonder what they have on you that they would go to such lengths to keep you from seeing what they have. NAILS
02:32 Destiny UnrealPhonkdev nothing
02:33 GoodGuy Creeper Destiny in regards to " StarryEyedWanderer I don't think you can just have random, anonymous people filing shit anonymously..." I think you should talk to your lawyer because random shit in lawsuits feels like it should be open to defamation and if not perjury
02:33 Destiny GoodGuyCreeper you have no idea
02:34 Destiny waiting to talk more about that until 4 weeks has passed, though
02:34 Jebouh It's JOEVER Destiny's lawyer misspoke https://i.imgur.com/Nfs2YPY.png
02:34 Destiny Jebouh no, he was specifically asking for filings without emoji reactions
02:34 Destiny idiot
02:34 Kden Vernanda Destiny why 4 weeks?
02:35 Destiny KdenVernanda I mean
02:35 Destiny the issue is
02:36 Destiny the case was technically dead until they brought in a new person under seal to testify about receiving some video from me, but that person...hasn't provided any evidence whatsoever that this actually happened
02:39 StarryEyed Wanderer Destiny I would think in a perfect world the judges would just throw out the case if this type of behavior happens because the courts cant just accept the rules from any party PepoG
02:39 Destiny StarryEyedWanderer yeah, I'm hoping there are sanctions or something for the lawyers on the other side
02:39 Destiny the behavior has been ridiculous
 
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Reminder that i am no american lawyer, but its very sadstiny that Destiny might be in the right regarding sealed filing. Page 19 does state, that a sealed filing in civil cases must be approved beforehand by the judge.

Additionally such a law makes a lot of sense, especially regarding witnesses, since otherwise it would be a lot easier for ppl to just claim to be a witness to something without actually being one, as your false claim has no effect towards your private/professional life, if nobody knows that you claim to have witnessed something (wrongly), and as such the incentives to wrongly provide testamony is a lot higher. Also there (at least in my countries understanding of the law) is a big difference between providing false testamony personally in court with your identity attached and not doing so, with the former needing a lot more courage and willingness to lie from the false witness. (Not that im saying that she is a false witness, just that that rule tries to prevent false witnessed).

To add to this, it is basically impossible for opposing counsel to attack a testamony if he only knows its content, but not who made it, as such testamonies often are attacked by pointing out personal interests of the witness (f.e. financial incentives or personal grievancess).

But i hope that im wrong, since i want steven to suffer in this trial as much as possible.

Edit: Im to lazy to comb through the american law to search for this, but there should be a §/Art that introduces additional ruled towards victims of sensitive crimes (f.e. sexual abuse) and especially endangered victims that would allow the court to keep their identity secret from the opposing counsel, but im not to sure if said rule would also apply to civile trials, if there is no criminal conviction and/or at least an ongoing criminal trial.
 
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A. G. Peak said:
Destiny had another soothe session about the case in chat last night.
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One of the interesting effects of the strategy Destiny is employing in this lawsuit is that he can't relax and just let his lawyer handle it. This ultimately is a relatively minor procedural issue about when Pxie's team has to release the witness's names, irrespective of whether they are allowed to be filed under seal. If he loses or wins on when they have to release those names it really is not a big deal ultimately. But he is still extremely stressed about it.

I can tell Destiny thought out what he was going to do and I think he is realizing that it is one thing to execute a strategy on paper and a whole other level of unpleasantness to actually enact it in real life.
 
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do ut des said:
Reminder that i am no american lawyer, but its very sadstiny that Destiny might be in the right regarding sealed filing. Page 19 does state, that a sealed filing in civil cases must be approved beforehand by the judge.
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But they didn't file anything under seal; that's where Destiny appears to be mistaken. They just filed redacted versions of the documents. If they had filed the documents under seal, the public wouldn't have access to them.
 
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SchizoNerd420 said:
But they didn't file anything under seal; that's where Destiny appears to be mistaken. They just filed redacted versions of the documents. If they had filed the documents under seal, the public wouldn't have access to them.
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Couldnt this filing be considered as filed under seal, as important information isnt made availible to the public? I have difficulties evaluating said rule since this option for the public to see basically every filing within every case is a (to my knowledge) US-unique rule, as in most countries, you only get to see the verdict, which summarizes the claims from both parties and the facts of the matter that the court assumes after hearing all pleadings and the evidence.

This btw is imo (at the risk of going on a side rant) a much better rule than the american one, since the value of a very transparent court procedure doesnt remedy/justify the complications this brings (especially regarding the right to privacy of parties and witnesses), while the publication of the rulings as well as the possibility of every citizen to attend the court procedure in person guarantees the lawfulness of the court procedures in a satisfactory amount while also giving public enough possibilities to control the courts. Of course such continental law systems wouldnt provide us the content we get rn so thats obviously a benefit of the united states solution.

Edit: i cant wait for the lawtubers to evaluate this case and filings in detail, the insights into US law will be very interesting!
 
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do ut des said:
Couldnt this filing be considered as filed under seal, as important information isnt made availible to the public?
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I understand the impetus to think this way, as redacted filings may be functionally similar to sealed filings, but there's literally a different mechanism for filing documents under seal in CM/ECF (the electronic federal filing system). Such documents are not available to the public, even those with a Pacer account, regardless of whether they are redacted. And the local rules seem to make a distinction between documents filed under seal, and redacted documents that are the subject of a motion to seal. Destiny even seems to acknowledge this distinction, but his position is just that the entire declaration should have been redacted, not just the identity of the declarants.
 
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I don't care about any of the legal technical shit because it doesn't really change my opinion of anything. But just to clarify, is the main complaint from Epstiny's side that Pxie's team motioned for permission to file under seal without having first redacted everything in the document(s) relating to content concerning the thing that's motivating them to want to file under seal? Is it necessary to redact literally everything that even references it?

I don't know the in and outs of who gets to see what between different legal teams when it comes to parameters like this, but if the only thing that is being redacted is the name of the person, and you already know who it is, plus know what is being alleged because it isn't fully redacted, then what the fuck is the problem? lol

StrangerMe said:
Also Datman, mind messaging me if you have made any progress regarding Lauren Southern's dox, tell me if you've found the Starbucks already, if you haven't I can look for it later today as I'm no longer busy with stuff.
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Oops, sorry, I didn't see your message.
Unfortunately no, I haven't been able to locate it. According to her website, her potential po-box locations would be in West Vancouver, and I couldn't find a match there (amongst other area's in Vancouver I looked).

I'm currently working on compiling all of the available information I can scrap into one big "dox folder", sorting through it, and just releasing it all as one lengthy post - Don't get to excited, it will probably still be a pain in the ass to properly dox any of her locations, although I'm feeling pretty good about the probability as it pertains to one location in particular.


Edit: Destiny loves women for their "womanly intuitions".
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actual irl loser said:
still can't get over the "implied consent" talking point.

"why yes i forcibly had sex with her, but she had sex with other men, so i had implied consent."

amazing that Destiny unironically used this implied consent thing, but it's even more amazing how many people ate it up
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Yeah its absolutely absurd. He should be called out on this bullshit everywhere he goes.
The biggest concession you could make here is that Destiny believed that he had her consent and did not knowingly violate it, but have violated it nonetheless.
Even if footsies are somehow capable of looking past the pixie stuff, him defending the "implied consent" shit should be a massive red flag.
Its such an insanely rape'y thing to say its unreal.
 
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