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Should be a wild four years.

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Catch The Rainbow said:
It's hilarious seeing the cope in real time from people who complain about Israeli lobbying. Qatar has now outspent Miriam Adelson by 4x with this single plane. US also profits from its military aid to Israel by about 2 billion dollars yearly.
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Don't care Jew. Israel can get their own money and military industrial complex. An entire nation with their whole foreign policy built on guilt tripping can suck my dick forever.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
It's hilarious seeing the cope in real time from people who complain about Israeli lobbying. Qatar has now outspent Miriam Adelson by 4x with this single plane. US also profits from its military aid to Israel by about 2 billion dollars yearly.
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I'll care once we start fighting wars for Qatar's benefit.
 
A relationship built on nothing more than good old fashioned bribery is substantially more honest than the one between Israel and the USA.
 
cheese shaped mouse said:
The seeming "radicalization" towards pushing 2A rights so rapidly after decades of minimal progress on gun control from the left is interesting. I don't think it's going to be shocking to anyone if things escalate, particularly with how upsetting it seemed people found the recent Massachusetts footage.
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Maybe they feel now that the uniparty has taken a loss, that they're going to need to revert to Days of Rage, Weather Underground style politics again. Lot of the same people.

marvlouslie said:
You guys really want the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT to have an insecure server (that can be easily hacked) that stores digital IDs of US CITIZENS and their own personal weird sexual fetishes?
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Spot the person who didn't read my technical explanation. The verifying server doesn't have access to the data of the site the user is going to. It just receives a request token, authorises it, and sends a response token. At most it would know where the request came from but there's no functional requirement it needs to log this stuff. Audits would be mandatory. This is entirely possible to do.
Dammit Mandrake! said:
Qatar?

They are going to have to take the whole thing apart to check for fuckery.
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It's a Boeing. It will take itself apart.
 
Dr J said:
You're on a database but that database doesn't include information about your private sexual preferences and fetishes
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I don't care about the privacy of porn consumers. Also ID regulations won't lead to anything because policy that ID requirements would lead to would already have been implemented by the Left with or without the initial regulations as we have seen many times.
 
Dr J said:
You're on a database but that database doesn't include information about your private sexual preferences and fetishes
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The alternative is just not to use internet porn. But I know that won’t be popular with certain groups. I really do my best to avoid “common good” arguments because I know where those things lead.
But we’ve gotten to the point where the damage being done by the status quo is so rampant that I’m seriously considering a “common good” argument here.
If I’m being completely honest with you, what I would like to see is parents doing their fucking jobs. But as anyone will tell you, especially those born after 2000 is that modern parents have absolutely dropped the ball on this.
So I find myself in a difficult position here. But ultimately when it comes down to it I’d choose the general wellbeing over free access to pornography.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
When I buy booze they scan my State ID and a government provided system tells them if I am ok to buy booze. They don't keep my ID on file.

Why couldn't this be made available to adult content providers? No, I won't provide you my ID Mr. Pornsite, I will however provide it to GovIDCheck.GOV and it'll return an API call saying yes or no, and rather than my ID you can just store that. Mandate a reasonable re-check (my local candy store cards me every time despite knowing me, cause they have to) of say, once every 14 or 30 days, and we're good. Problem solved. (Right now they take a credit card and put a $1 hold on it to do more or less the same thing.)

The only catch is, this would create a small stumbling block on getting access to the porn, and as an addictive vice, that's a no go. They NEED you to be thinking with your dick and click click click rather than being pulled out of it to be carded.

Edit: Realization: They could do this to keep kids off of Twitter, force safesearch mode on, and keep them out of 18+ Discords, too.
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That would actually help keep kids off 18+ shit, which is why certain people don't want it. I'm still confused why some users aren't peeved about needing an ID to fly or vote, but lose it at accessing porn.
 
TJT said:
Israel can get their own money and military industrial complex.
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israel has one. The current US military aid is a percentage of the IDF military budget. As I have repeatedly stated in my posts arguing for cutting off US aid, Israel will not miss it.

TJT said:
An entire nation with their whole foreign policy built on guilt tripping can suck my dick forever.
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it's amazing how continually retarded people like you are that genuinely think that the US supports Israel because of the holocaust or muh guilt tripping. It takes a complete idiot to look at the United States blockading Israel for 15 years, condemning Israel in the 50s, and only changing paths to support israel under Kennedy to assume that muh holocaust is the answer. Israel is a consistent US ally and has been one historically.

quaawaa said:
I'll care once we start fighting wars for Qatar's benefit.
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Again, I have pointed out multiple times how Ariel Sharon and the Israeli government advised Bush not to invade Iraq. This is backed up by both American and Israeli sources such as Danny Ayalon, then Sharon’s foreign policy adviser (and later Israeli ambassador to Washington); Raanan Gissin, a senior communications and policy aide to Sharon; and Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell..

In early January 2002, four months after the September 11 attacks, Israeli national security council director Uzi Dayan met in Washington with his American counterpart Condoleezza Rice. She told him — to his surprise, he later told me — that President Bush had decided to invade Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein. A month later Dayan’s boss, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, met with Bush in the White House and offered some advice, based on decades of Israeli intelligence.

Removing Saddam, Sharon said, according to three sources with direct knowledge, will have three main results, all negative. Iraq will implode into warring tribes of Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. You’ll be stuck in an Iraqi quagmire for a decade. And Iran, a far more dangerous player, will be rid of its principal enemy and free to pursue its ambitions of regional hegemony. Bush didn’t agree.
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explain to me how a war that was warned against by the government of israel is an israeli war
 
mindlessobserver said:
No. The Mormons actively fought against the United States. They thought that they could form a new zion out in the territories of the USA secured from France and Mexico.

They then began to exercise sovereignty. The Mountain Meadows massacre was the last straw. Not only were the Mormons doing a LARP about their new zion, now they were killing Americans in cold blood and severing Washington DC from its holdings in California and Oregon.

The US Army was sent in. Not to suppress religion. But to assert America's sovereignty over its own interior. And to also find the Mormons responsible for the Mountain Meadows massacre. Alas, the civil war interrupted proceedings. So when the Feds finally got around to it, only one of the Mormons responsible for the Utah War was tied to a post, presented to the firing squad and executed.
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Mormon history is unironically one of the more interesting yet lesser know parts of American history.
Straight up, just read into that shit. We have the Mormon Battalion Monument near ABQ, and dude the history of the Mormon Battalion is nuts.
When I say they’re basically White People Nice Islamists, it’s real. They did goon shit following a sketchy dude but, like Whites do, they got it out of their systems and chilled out.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
That would actually help keep kids off 18+ shit, which is why certain people don't want it. I'm still confused why some users aren't peeved about needing an ID to fly or vote, but lose it at accessing porn.
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You know what, I think I see the disconnect. Most of the people strongly advocating for the government to require ID to access porn sites seem to only mention it in the context of Pornhub or Xhamster or something. But the issue is about requiring an ID to access content that falls under the definition of "obscene". Not JUST porn. Something can be "obscene" and NOT be porn to goon too. Stinkditch pictures on this site, for example, are pretty fucking obscene by any definition.

You have to remember that we're basically telling the fucking morons on capitol hill to define what is obscene or not. Do you REALLY think Sen. Dumfuck is going to say "No, that's ok. We don't need to put Kiwifarms on the age check list. Those pictures of rotten neo vaginas are for criticism only, not jerking off to". They are wanting to expand the definion of what "obscene" is to modernize it for the internet. How much shit do you think is going to be called obscene that isn't strictly porn?
 
The way to actually curtail pornography is to first enforce already existing laws. These companies knowingly host illegal rape, incest, and child pornography on their sites and servers. If the laws were enforced, the porn sites could not make money until they cleaned up their act on that front.
Second, there are laws to verify age. Those have been interpreted as the stupid “R U 18?” page, but hey I have to upload a pic of my ID to buy cigars online why shouldn’t it be the same for another 18-or-up vice?
The main thing stopping the older generations from major access to porn was the ID question, it was only physical shops that had it. Yeah people found their older brothers stash, but what we have now is a different level of exposure even compared to that.
 
Rome's rightful successor said:
Fetterman and that Arizona astronaut guy would unironically be the democrats best option.
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Can a white guy even get elected on the DNC's platform anymore? I mean Biden did but it took an unprecedented level of fraud and corruption to just barely get him over the finish line and the parties have only hardened along racial and gender lines since 2020.
 
CaliforniaRaisin said:
You know what, I think I see the disconnect. Most of the people strongly advocating for the government to require ID to access porn sites seem to only mention it in the context of Pornhub or Xhamster or something. But the issue is about requiring an ID to access content that falls under the definition of "obscene". Not JUST porn. Something can be "obscene" and NOT be porn to goon too. Stinkditch pictures on this site, for example, are pretty fucking obscene by any definition.

You have to remember that we're basically telling the fucking morons on capitol hill to define what is obscene or not. Do you REALLY think Sen. Dumfuck is going to say "No, that's ok. We don't need to put Kiwifarms on the age check list. Those pictures of rotten neo vaginas are for criticism only, not jerking off to". They are wanting to expand the definion of what "obscene" is to modernize it for the internet. How much shit do you think is going to be called obscene that isn't strictly porn?
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First they required ID to buy a gun and I said nothing. Then they required ID to buy alcohol and I said nothing. Then they required ID to buy cigarettes and I said nothing. Then they required ID to fly domestically, enter government buildings, pick up prescriptions, buy weed, vote, enter porn shops, and still I said jack diddley fuck all about American liberty.

But then they made it harder for children to access porn sites and now I'm big mad!!!

Do you see now why you're a retard? Or are you never gonna see it?
 
The fourth round of nuclear talks between Iran and the US in Oman has ended. At the same time, the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman posted a short time ago, "Iran is firmly determined to realize its right to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes while being ready to ensure that this is a peaceful nuclear program. We are equally determined to work towards lifting the sanctions."


The Iranian Foreign Minister summed up today's talks as "difficult but fruitful," with the aim of "better understanding the parties' positions and finding reasonable and realistic ways to address the differences of opinion." The parties agreed on another round, the fifth in number.Translation: It seems that there are still significant gaps between Iran and the US in the nuclear talks.

US official tells AP: "Encouraged by round of talks with Iran."
 
George Lucas said:
I see a lot of people in this thread referring to porn as a vice, but isn’t it actually adultery, i.e. a sin? A vice would be something like drinking or gambling where it isn’t necessarily wrong but can lead to a sinful life if allowed to excess.

Since hentai is not of an actual person, does that count as adultery?
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It's certainly not healthy, and does cause marital problems. It's really just one degree of separation from watching strangers have sex, in person.

I grew up with the internet, but was still blocked from watching porn because the computer was in a common room where I could be walked in on in any moment. Now a days, kids have unmonitored access 24/7. The responsibility to protect kids from degenerate shit on the internet falls on the parents.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
First they required ID to buy a gun and I said nothing. Then they required ID to buy alcohol and I said nothing. Then they required ID to buy cigarettes and I said nothing. Then they required ID to fly domestically, enter government buildings, pick up prescriptions, buy weed, vote, enter porn shops, and still I said jack diddley fuck all about American liberty.

But then they made it harder for children to access porn sites and now I'm big mad!!!

Do you see now why you're a retard? Or are you never gonna see it?
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What about requiring ID to access Kiwifarms?
 
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