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Should be a wild four years.

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pyrogon said:
Do they even want to leave?
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No. Way back in the day you guys used to call Irish and Italians “white ethnics”. They’ve assimilated to the point where this is no longer a necessary label. But Afrikaans people are going to be the most “ethnic” whites in America since the Irish arrived after the famine. A lot of people here are wise to the fact that assimilation is necessary to thrive in the US. But people really don’t want to lose a language, a culture and a way of life long term. So many have decided to rather not* take a chance.
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For some strange reason they really, really have no choice.
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I beg to differ. I put up with some level of danger to study here because I can get my degree WITHOUT a cent of student debt or loans. It’s not all bad. The friends you make are some of the most class A people you’ll ever meet
 
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Party Hat Wurmple said:
I will never share your guys' hatred for porn. Personally, I just think it's a lot of kvetching on the Farms and Conservatives part. I grew up without internet porn and with internet porn and if you think it made a difference, it didn't. Determined children always found a nude magazine. You couldn't stop this. Heck, sometimes parents would just give their kids nude magazines. It wasn't uncommon. You had the XXX Rated TV channels giving blurry signals that kids stared at for hours hoping to see a little boob. I'm not saying there isn't any merit to making it difficult, because there absolutely is. However, any solution to this involves extreme government overreach and further overreach is just foolish. If you trust the government to do anything good with this information, or keep it secure, you're a damn fool. Government roadblocks are never a good thing and I don't know why that changes just because it's porn as opposed to anything else.

My point ultimately is, all you're doing by arguing about finer details is a wasted effort and you shouldn't trust the government, ever. That being said, there were some good ideas here. Permanent kids setting on phones is a brilliant idea and should've been implemented a long time ago. However, if you want to keep your kids from fapping to furry futanari hentai by 13, do the wise thing and keep them off the internet as long as possible. Your kid can't fap to SonicxTails inflation hentai if you don't have an Internet connection or have a limited one. Abstinence is best.
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I don't think porn should be banned. I, too, grew up in the era of nudie mags and had a few myself. The problem is that modern Internet porn has a social media aspect to it that is far more dangerous for kids than a simple nude mag. Modern Internet porn is also a lot more hardcore than even 20 years ago, which is why you have so many young men nowadays who think it's normal to choke women and have them call you daddy. Was there lolicon and child pornography in 1999? Yes, but it was fucking weird then. Nowadays you have people openly consuming lolicon porn, defending it, and "joking" about CSAM or even turning it into a fetish unto itself like degenerate bugchasers. We have reached a point where it's getting out of order.

The main issue I have is people arguing that an ID for accessing Internet porn is somehow going to lead to an ID to access the web itself. No one here said dick about ID laws for literally anything else. I get the concern about Internet censorship and, all Thunderdoming aside, I understand that IDs to access websites is a different situation than IDs to buy guns or booze. However, back in the day - yes, the same day when teenage Hey Johnny Bravo would try to slip a Hustler magazine into a newspaper - you needed an ID to buy these things. You still need them today. There are ways to do this without websites storing personal data. I don't think laws specifically designed to require ID for accessing porn will then be used to require an ID to access everything. We already require ID to access federal buildings and fly domestically (REAL ID) and that is not being used as a justification for requiring an ID to enter a concert venue, or use the subway, or walk down the street.

Preventing minors from accessing porn is not the same thing as monitoring regular Internet traffic. Morever, obscenity in US law is very specific in that it applies to the "prurient interest." It has to do with sex. You can try to say calling Obama a nigger is obscene, but the defense would point out the extensive case law demonstrating that obscenity applies to weird porn and not racial slurs. I get the concern here, but I highly doubt it would play out like that. I am also not convinced by arguments about the UK because they do not have the same constitution or case law. Similar, yes - US legal tradition draws from English tradition - but we have 250 years of difference which means it is not the same animal.

Lastly, as @The Ugly One notes, if I had a dime for every person who sperged about porn as their free speech canary in the coal mine only to get a redstrike through, I could gift T&H to quite a few users. I'm not accusing anyone here of that, but there is a pattern and it goes back to my earlier point about how people seem to bitch about American free speech when it comes to restricting porn access but never anything else. I don't think porn is the free speech canary in the coal mine, period. I think it's more disturbing when a publicly-traded company like Reddit actively bans people for milquetoast conservative opinions.

Which is worse? Seriously. A publicly traded company banning people for saying "I don't think transgender women are real women," or a porn site making you verify that you're 18? Because if someone says the latter, then they are profoundly stupid and clearly only interested in the thing that affects them.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
so lobbying and bribery is good when it's done by brown people like yourself but when anyone else does it it's evil and undemocratic?
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I think it’s got more to do with the belligerence of the Israel lobby and their behaviour, rather than the principle.
Is Thomas Massie a rabid anti semite like they claim? Or is he a conservative who opposes all sorts of foreign aid?
 
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Party Hat Wurmple said:
Determined children always found a nude magazine. You couldn't stop this. Heck, sometimes parents would just give their kids nude magazines. It wasn't uncommon.
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The problem online right now is that "determined kids will find porn on their own, and sometimes bad parents would give their kid a nude magazine" has morphed into "internet porn addicts will intentionally expose children (even the ones who aren't particularly determined) to hardcore fetish pornography because they think it's funny/it's how they get their rocks off/they make money off it somehow."
 
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TJT said:
Don't care Jew. Israel can get their own money and military industrial complex. An entire nation with their whole foreign policy built on guilt tripping can suck my dick forever.
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Israel be selling drones to India, and so far haven't heard much fanfare on them.
 
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Qatar to Gift $400 Million Plane to President Trump:

🔸 According to ABC News, the Trump administration is set to accept a luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet—valued at around $400 million—from the Qatari royal family.

🔸 The plane will serve as Air Force One for Trump until just before he leaves office, after which ownership will transfer to his presidential library foundation.

🔸 Sources say this may be the most valuable gift ever given to the U.S. by a foreign government.

🔸 Attorney General Pam Bondi and Trump’s White House lawyer David Warrington concluded the arrangement is legally permissible.

🔸 Bondi—who herself was a registered foreign agent for Qatar—provided the legal memo approving the deal.

🔸 The DOJ and White House determined the gift does not constitute bribery, since it isn’t tied to any official act.

🔸 Bondi also argued it doesn’t violate the Constitution’s ban on foreign gifts because it’s being given to the U.S. Air Force and, later, a nonprofit.

🔸 Neither the White House, DOJ, nor the Qatari embassy responded to ABC’s requests for comment.

🔸 Experts note the aircraft’s $400 million price tag doesn’t include the additional security and communications upgrades needed for presidential transport.

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It better be gold plated
 
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Storytime said:
KIWIFARMS IS NOT A PORN SITE YOU STUPID NIGGER
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It is an adult website, not that type of adult website but an adult website that requires users to be 18+ and minors to discontinue using the website. Given how vague any legislation regarding will be, the site will be asked how does it verify that it's users are 18+ to ensure minors aren't looking at this.
 
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Spud said:
It is an adult website, not that type of adult website but an adult website that requires users to be 18+ and minors to discontinue using the website. Given how vague any legislation regarding will be, the site will be asked how does it verify that it's users are 18+ to ensure minors aren't looking at this.
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that's a problem with the legislation not the idea
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Massie is an antisemite but not because of his foreign aid policy which is standard lolbert shit. It's because he follows antisemites on twitter and refuses to meet with Jewish constituents.


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He follows over 22,800 people:
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Those guys probably made one tweet that he liked so he followed them. I doubt he even knows who they are, much less reads any of their tweets.
 
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