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Because it's an encroachment on your right to privacy. What if this information got leaked, as information typically does? Do you really want people knowing, for example, that you look at scat porn?
Yeah but don't you get it, the government has never expanded the reach of its power or abused its power in all of human history so it's literally impossible that this oversight will extend beyond porn to tracking everything you say and do online (something authoritarians are very loud about wanting to do) so it's fine.

If the government wanted to pass legislation impeding free access to the Internet
Because that wouldn't pass.

There's no reason for it not to stay limited to porn sites
A bill to ban/monitor porn sites could pass. Then it would be expanded upon to include all manner of sites the government doesn't like. Which is what always happens.

Were all of you asleep when the government was pushing hard for tech companies to censor "misinformation" on COVID which very quickly expanded to include virtually anything the government found unflattering or contrary to narratives they were trying to push? But no, on this one particular pet issue I have, the thing that has always happened throughout human history when the government is granted power would NEVER happen here because uh... because I say so, okay?
 
Were all of you asleep when the government was pushing hard for tech companies to censor "misinformation" on COVID which very quickly expanded to include virtually anything the government found unflattering or contrary to narratives they were trying to push? But no, on this one particular pet issue I have, the thing that has always happened throughout human history when the government is granted power would NEVER happen here because uh... because I say so, okay?
I said it last night and I'll say it again. I am profoundly amused that there's vocal support on this site for the government to build the framework and flagship effort to begin setting up ID checkpoints on the internet. It's like everything that's happened in the last 5 years doesn't matter, and everything that happened in the last 50 years is just "Meh... we'll be better" hand waived.
 
There's no reason for it not to stay limited to porn sites. If the government wanted to pass legislation impeding free access to the Internet they already would have regardless of whether there's an ID requirement for porn websites or not. We have already seen the government pass or try to pass radical legislation without the need for prerequisites.
There was no reason for debanking to be used for anything short of suspected terrorism but here we are. There is no reason for a surveillance state tool use against citizens yet here we are. If something can be abused it will be abused. Often times abused in ways you could have never even thought of.
 
It's so weird that on a site like this you have 'think of the children' types that are more stuck up about sex stuff than the worst of 80s evangelicals and tipper gore types combined.
not as weird as that after seeing literally any tranny lolcow you are not against porn entirely
 
not as weird as that after seeing literally any tranny lolcow you are not against porn entirely
Most people here from what I've seen are against porn, but also it's easier to deal with porn on your own and prevent your kids from accessing it than giving the government more power that they don't need.
 
"yeah a portion of society got hooked on free, accessible internet porn and as a result we got to the point of legalizing castrating children to appease porn addicts but
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY, FASCIST???"

the lolbertarian strategy of shitting your pants and doing nothing while nogs shove women into oncoming subway trains and drug addicts destroy neighborhoods continues to be quite attractive to retards.
 
Lastly, as @The Ugly One notes, if I had a dime for every person who sperged about porn as their free speech canary in the coal mine only to get a redstrike through, I could gift T&H to quite a few users. I'm not accusing anyone here of that, but there is a pattern and it goes back to my earlier point about how people seem to bitch about American free speech when it comes to restricting porn access but never anything else. I don't think porn is the free speech canary in the coal mine, period. I think it's more disturbing when a publicly-traded company like Reddit actively bans people for milquetoast conservative opinions.
This man is unfortunately correct. It's not even about the red strikethroughs, it's that there are a lot of users on various websites who only start making passionate arguments about free speech and slippery slopes when the banning of pornography, particularly lolicon, comes up.

Are the arguments they use somewhat technically plausible? Maybe to some. The problem is that on a basic social instinct level it looks really bad when there is a noticeable pattern of behavior with a specific conversational trigger. These types destroy the credibility of their own side if this is detected, and then also the credibility of people who make the same argument with purer motives.

It's simply the reality of it. People who make the kinds of arguments this poster is referencing just do not have a media apparatus suppressing every negative thing they do like the LGBTQ+. They make themselves and others look bad.
 

"yeah a portion of society got hooked on free, accessible internet porn and as a result we got to the point of legalizing castrating children to appease porn addicts but
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY, FASCIST???"
Oh cool, you're such a dishonest faggot you had to literally invent something no one said so you can join the argument because you can't refute the things people are actually saying in this thread. How cute.
 
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