Why do shitlibs love criminals so much? - Let's ponder the origin of left wing hybristophilia

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I think this subject really does deserve more discussion. On why liberals/leftists are so eager to simp for criminals, degenerates, and psychotic, violent people in general.

There is one of the ideas put forth by the Frankfurt School, as part of their accelerationist agenda to "make the west so corrupt that it stinks" in the hopes that a communist revolution would overthrow it: the creation of a justice system that is heavily biased against victims of violent crime. I don't know if it tells the whole story, or explains why the left has such a strong, compulsive need to defend or simp for criminals.

Why the left mourned the deaths of the two men that Kyle Rittenhouse shot in self defense, and came to the defense of the one survivor, even after it became clear that it was self defense, and all three men had criminal backgrounds that included pedophilia, domestic abuse, and burglary?

Why shitlibs are so desperate to continue importing unvetted immigrants, and even go as far as to say that deporting known MS13 gang members is bad, actually, even acknowledging that they are known MS13 gang members?

So eager to turn any criminal that gets shot by police into martyrs, even after the body cam footage clears the police of wrongdoing?

Why they cried foul over Uganda implimenting laws that would allow the state to put those guilty of "aggravated homosexuality" to death, even though "aggravated homosexuality" means "rape?"

Why the left insists on doubling down on troon ideology or even LGBTQ ideology in general, even though said social experiment has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster? And especially when people are sick and tired of troons and the societal damage they inflict in their wake?

Why they get so angry at people like Chaya Raichek or Ruben Sim for pointing out predatory behavior?

Well, we do know the answers to some of these questions, especially the very last one. But I honestly think this deserves attention and discussion.

 

[VIPPER?]

Extension of rehabilitation based justice instead of strictly punitive

Westoid romanticization of the "noble criminal"

General "us vs them" mentality; the troon or niglet is part of the club and can do no wrong

Distrust of modern legal systems; is the criminal really a criminal, did the person even do it, is "it" something that should be criminal, etc

E: Also the white women making up the bulk of "shitlibs" having the hots for these cholos and gangbangers and literally just simping

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Simple..it comes down to the client-patron relationship. The shittier the clients behave, the greater it alienates them from the mainstream, and the more it cements their allegiance to the people in power who protect them. Thus a bug becomes a feature. Anarcho tyranny.

Keep in mind that shitlibs believe that troons and crooks are revolutionary forces, chaos agents. The troons and crooks are there to destabilize and demoralise the normies. In classic marxism, the crooks and troons would help bring about the revolution then they would be liquidated once they became redundant and order needed to be restored

In intersectionaity though? No. they are agents of perpetual chaos, the means through which the ruling class can keep everything destablised, justifying ever growing control over the normies.

 

[grump]

The entire left worldview is based on chronic underdoggism and an underdog vs oppressor mentality. Where everything is oppressed vs oppressor and the supposed underdog is always good and the supposed oppressor is always bad. You see this crystalized in the French Revolution, then communism and now its descendants that generalized the rich (oppressor) vs poor (oppressed) motif into other categories. men (oppressor) vs women (oppressed), white (oppressor) vs minority (oppressed). Law abiding society (oppressor) vs criminals (oppressed)

 

[Wahgonga]

I think this subject really does deserve more discussion. On why liberals/leftists are so eager to simp for criminals, degenerates, and psychotic, violent people in general.

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

I doubt most of them really have any deeper goals or any kind of Marxist accelerationist ideas. Part of it is just plain contrarianism, the right likes X so we have to support Y. The other parts are immaturity/naivete, just plain ignorance, and a desire to have their cake and eat it too.

They want all of the benefits of a socialist system combined with the freedoms of libertarian capitalism. That's impossible.

You can't hope to have any kind of socialist society without a coherent cultural identity, secure borders, a national language, belief in justice, and the expectation everyone will contribute to the best of their ability. Even then, you have to deal with fundamental human weaknesses and other social problems which are a whole matter in and of themselves.

The deal is you are sacrificing your own wealth and freedoms for everyone's stability and personal security.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

I saw a (new?) Bike Cuck comic the other day that illustrates their obscenely naive attitudes perfectly.

I suspect strongly (95% confidence) that he believes this to be the case. When some gangbanger rapes, murders, and mutilates others... people just failed to be nice to him. When a sicko molests little kids... he was bullied. And so on. These are the people who want those types released from prison sooner (or never sent in the first place), not because they don't care or because they want criminals to avoid punishment, but because in their minds doing so is "rehabilitation" and will make the world a better place.

Yes, it's strange to wrap your head around. I have trouble putting myself into their mindset because when I even attempt to see things from their point of view, my brain starts pointing out the many dozens and hundreds of counterfactual observations that should shut down this bullshit for them. I have some practice in ignoring the named fallacies (they have names because people are prone to indulge in them, after all), but you discover so many new, unnamed fallacies that they must be laboring under just to continue... sometimes I panic and stop out of worry that if I somehow succeed my brain would be stuck like that.

So, tldr: Leftoid brains are massively defective, irreparably so.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

savior complex.

 

[Safir]

On why liberals/leftists are so eager to simp for criminals, degenerates, and psychotic, violent people in general.

Plenty of rightoids simp for Soviet criminals.

The answer is libs are degenerates, it's in the name. The collective will of the common civilized people (exemplified by The State and The Revolution) despises degeneracy. Therefore libs invent "human rights" for (degenerate) minorities to impose their will on the majority, and try to undermine their own state (degeneracy is an upper-class malaise, thus libs are well-shielded from the consequences).

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well, we do know the answers to some of these questions, especially the very last one. But I honestly think this deserves attention and discussion.

Despite all that, they all support Israel despite their brown and black simping as well.

Making it even more schizvo.

 

[Epikusername4]

Plenty of rightoids simp for Soviet criminals.

hell yeah crimes againist the soviet union aren't crimes

 

[The Last Stand]

Yeah, I don't get it either. I would think it would have to do with Yuri Bezmenov's "active measures." It's basically a four-step subversion tactic designed to destabilize a country to leave them susceptible and vulnerable to manipulation and ultimately destruction. I think a recent example of it happened under Putin's Russia.

Of course, that may be giving them too much credit. I do think they just hate America.

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

Look into the Ethics of Care as a primer on this topic.
A lot of the framework behind modern libshits is built on a rejection of generalizable moral principles in place of a model that emphasizes one person's relationship to another and how one person's action may be a response to subjective perception as opposed to measurable phenomena.

The practical upshot is that the criminal may have done something bad, but that doesn't absolve us from affording to them a certain leeway depending on their personal situation and how they may have felt at the time of doing it.

 

[biglurker]

One of the majored arguments have been brought up. Another big one is that they believe all crime is the result of lack of resources and social issues (Muh class abuse/racisms). Therefore, criminals are not actually responsible for the crimes they commit. Crime to a leftist I would disappear if we just gave them enough gibs. You see this argument in full when they defend drug dealers and communities with rampant drug dealing/use (except if they are white Americans).

 

[VIPPER?]

When some gangbanger rapes, murders, and mutilates others... people just failed to be nice to him. When a sicko molests little kids... he was bullied. And so on. These are the people who want those types released from prison sooner (or never sent in the first place), not because they don't care or because they want criminals to avoid punishment, but because in their minds doing so is "rehabilitation" and will make the world a better place.

It is a legitimate idea in crime prevention: criminals aren't born, they're made. By either removing the incentive for crime, you eliminate crime. If everyone has what they need, they don't need to steal; if relationship dynamics aren't stupid, no one needs to beat their wife; if kids aren't bullied in school, they don't become sharty posters and shoot up the place, etc. It doesn't work in cases of genuine evil but even then the idea is if you can identify a pedo, it's better to get him cranked on thorazine and have him still work a job and pay taxes than to just execute him. It doesn't work in all cases but it limits crimes of desperation or passion. There will always be hood rat niggas who will roll you for gangsta ass pat tik tok updoots, but joe bob down the street won't steal your catalytic converter if he can just get a job.

But shitlibs go from the mostly reasonable "if you remove reasons to do crime, crime will drop at least a little" to "all criminals are just misunderstood speshul widdle snowflaeks who just need a le hug and ubi <3".

 

[sixuglymidgets]

I saw a (new?) Bike Cuck comic the other day that illustrates their obscenely naive attitudes perfectly.

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I suspect strongly (95% confidence) that he believes this to be the case. When some gangbanger rapes, murders, and mutilates others... people just failed to be nice to him. When a sicko molests little kids... he was bullied. And so on. These are the people who want those types released from prison sooner (or never sent in the first place), not because they don't care or because they want criminals to avoid punishment, but because in their minds doing so is "rehabilitation" and will make the world a better place.

Yes, it's strange to wrap your head around. I have trouble putting myself into their mindset because when I even attempt to see things from their point of view, my brain starts pointing out the many dozens and hundreds of counterfactual observations that should shut down this bullshit for them. I have some practice in ignoring the named fallacies (they have names because people are prone to indulge in them, after all), but you discover so many new, unnamed fallacies that they must be laboring under just to continue... sometimes I panic and stop out of worry that if I somehow succeed my brain would be stuck like that.

So, tldr: Leftoid brains are massively defective, irreparably so.

I think it's also because they are very sheltered people who only hear from their lefty teachers and parents sanitized history. History is full of both good and evil and all it's nastiness on display. They also live in safe areas of the world and instead of learning about how things are assume everywhere is like this. So when they see actual evil they can't comprehend it so they end up making excuses for the most vile of people so they can keep living in their fantasy world.

 

[starborn427614]

Is this a regional thing? Maybe I'm not as liberal as I thought, but I believe if you do the crime you should probably at least do a little time.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Of course, that may be giving them too much credit. I do think they just hate America.

I did bring that up, seeing that the Frankfurt School specifically brought up intentionally subverting the justice system so that it's biased against victims of crime, but to assume that they either want to push a marxist accelerationist agenda, or intentionally demoralize law-abiding citizens, is to assume they're smarter than they really are. They really are brain-dead retarded.

It's not unreasonable to assume that the vanguard of such political movements do have some desire to do one of those two things, but they also seem like they're brain dead retarded as well. I don't know.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

It is a legitimate idea in crime prevention: criminals aren't born, they're made. B

While true, this is a very subtle truth that is subject to dangerous misinterpretation. You can't be nice to these criminals before they are made. You can't do it without taking children from mothers at the hospital and keeping them away forever. And if you did do this, it's unclear that you even know how to not make make them into criminals yourself. They are sometimes explicitly made by degenerate culture, but more often, I think, they're made into criminals in circumstances that you or I wouldn't necessarily believe criminal-making... their brain just interpreted the circumstances to condone or justify the crime and it quickly becomes a habit they will never shake.

And I don't much care to save them anyway. It's the truth. If the effort to prevent them from becoming criminal is expensive, but it's cheap to throw them in a dungeon (or to execute them, for the worst crimes), then throw them in the dungeon.

I reject the notion that humans have no choice in the matter.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I reject the notion that humans have no choice in the matter.

Evil needs no excuse or sob story in the end. Evil people are evil people, they chose to be evil, even knowing there was a better way.

A simple truth that the rank and file shitlib simply refuses to believe.