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Should be a wild four years.

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Who will Israel turn to now? Will they turn to the Caliphs of Europe while praying for a White prime minister? Will they turn to China and subsequently recognize one of their designs in a act of karma? Will they turn to India and convince them that instead of bombing Pakis they should really bomb Palestinians then save the total paki death for later?

In all seriousness, Israel had been pushing this special friendship to the brink. Irregardless of incidents from the past to what they done now that you could prove, Trump is on a revenge tour. By allegedly having Mike Waltz leak the chats and definitely hacking the Signal app they use, it made Trump really feel slighted one might say. That's not even getting to how antisemitic the Zoomers on the left and right are getting.

What might happen is Trump will offer a token show of support or a few things already signed but making new deals will be off the table for the longest time. But if they decide to do anything drastic that special relationship will be gone.
 
Just check how hard /r/WallStreetBets is seething. You'll have your answer.
>"This is Communism!"
Helping protect the taxpayer from this medical shakedown is what politicians are supposed to be doing.
Did Big Pharma really think the public is going to be against this anti-corruption campaign?

I really hope Trump continues destroying this middleman-economy that's only extracting our wealth.
 
Can't wait to see how TDS niggerfaggots spin this as anything short of an absolute bipartisan win
 

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my younger self would hate me for saying this but internet access should be a privilege of grown ups that is off limits to minors - like cars, cigarettes, alcohol, firearms.
yea.. I'm actually starting to get why I got punished for going onto YouTube when I was young. shit be crazy.
 
Who will Israel turn to now? Will they turn to the Caliphs of Europe while praying for a White prime minister? Will they turn to China and subsequently recognize one of their designs in a act of karma? Will they turn to India and convince them that instead of bombing Pakis they should really bomb Palestinians then save the total paki death for later?

In all seriousness, Israel had been pushing this special friendship to the brink. Irregardless of incidents from the past to what they done now that you could prove, Trump is on a revenge tour. By allegedly having Mike Waltz leak the chats and definitely hacking the Signal app they use, it made Trump really feel slighted one might say. That's not even getting to how antisemitic the Zoomers on the left and right are getting.

What might happen is Trump will offer a token show of support or a few things already signed but making new deals will be off the table for the longest time. But if they decide to do anything drastic that special relationship will be gone.
My suspicion is part of the deal is Israel starts pulling its own weight and Trump looks away when Israel goes after Hamas and other terrorist groups.
 
/r/WallStreetBets is seething
oh don't you worry, they're having a completely normal one.
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it's a dictatorship if the president, let's see here... mandates lower prices for government purchased drug prices.

this dictatorship gets better by the day.

they also don't know what is being done, and apparently now every leftist is a full on free market ancap.

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attributing malice for absolutely no reason to the most favored countries thing when it's obvious that's just to get the lowest possible price.
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and a dishonest attempt to say biden already did this guys it's totally not drumpf doing anything good.
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biden renegotiated 10 drug prices for medicare, in changes that won't go into effect until nearly two years after his term. that was it. this will be a much broader, much more intense revaluation, rather than a negotiation. there doesn't seem to be any inclarity in his words, trump is saying that they WILL do this.
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People really think we're going back.
People think that if we just bury our heads and do nothing, leftists will see the errors of their ways and give up their institutional power.
People think if we embrace "trve smol government " we can retvrn to the halcyon days of old.
I understand, I wish we could too, but we're not.
As much as we'd like to will away the surveillance state, it is not evaporating because some principled conservatives and child fucking libertarians think governments doing things is fascism
I get your sentiments, but for your desires it'd require the state to be completely top down authoritarian and hold to a single ideological strain in perpetuity thereafter, which is just as implausible as Libertarians desiring a return to the pre-1910s America. Why is the answer to acts of authoritarianism even more of it? Wouldn't undoing the acts that brought this all about be better, rather than just giving up on the pursuit?

The main issue is that implementing authoritarian measures that appear in benefit to your ideological faction (UK Conservatives banning inciteful rhetoric in the 1980s because of frequent riots and unrest) is that they can come back to bite you in the ass in the future (UK Labour party banning insulting and targeted language in the mid 2000s amended to the same law from '86). This can happen in reverse, the most recent, quick to backfire example being the push for mandatory bodycams for American police, but then it just gave more ammo to justify FBI stats on blacks and shooting of the unarmed.

A more extreme example (apologies for invoking Godwin's law) is creating a constitution designed to prevent the rise of Nazis (1946, Basic law of the federal republic of Germany) resulting in West Germany being the 1st country (for the 2nd time - Weimer also implemented such laws eventually) to implement hate speech laws in the 1960s, before simply being used as a tool to prevent the rise of ideological opponents and social-right (contemporary Germany). We can also see these laws simply don't work in the face of overwhelming counter-support, such as Weimer Germany's "Protection of the Republic laws" (1922, 1930) that banned organisations that opposed the republic (targeted the Right-wing mostly as they were implemented by the Social Democrats) doing nothing to stop the Nazis. The first time it passed it was deemed unconstitutional, but since it was passed by a 2/3rds majority, it was allowed to go ahead anyway. In less than 10 years, that support was no longer there.

Some issues, mainly trannies, I can look to being the consequence of speech restrictions and an ideological stranglehold over certain aspects of education, government and the internet. If more people were aware of shit like autogynephilia, I feel there'd certainly be fewer of them around, even if it's just shame keeping a lid on them. Whilst banning porn could solve this (or social media and reddit), I think shame, or lack thereof, is generally a major issue for a lot of the 'problems' you see in contemporary society (such as furries, trannies, and kids destroying Chromebooks). And any reason for trannies to feel ashamed of themselves was largely buried around the time they started to appear in large numbers online, which you can just as easily blame on the flagrant whiplash to Trump's election win from the Left as you could porn.

Queer theory, NAMBLA, etcetera, all emerged after Conservatism had peaked in the 50s and the 60s saw a massive sperg out in reaction. You saw French writers justifying paedophilia and sex as a construct all for the sake of sexual liberation and other nonsense, the free love movement and hippies in America, etcetera. The French ideas would eventually reach America in the 90s and metastasize into what's now called "Queer Theory", and out of the semi-Conservative 80s, centrist/conservative blend of the 90s to 2010s, it finally flowed into the shit-daffodil we're forced to smell every time we go online. Similar to degeneracy coinciding with sexual liberation, I think the widespread ease and use of the internet caused a similar phenomena. Just as "free love" was trendy in the 70s, porn became something normalised as something funny and normal to most of the internet in the 2010s. The 80s saw a recession from the sexuality of the 70s, so a similar recession might come around soon-ish. 2030s?

Anyway, the death of shame is a cultural thing, and one that'd require a great deal more effort and time to fix, and can't really be forced through rule of law. If banning would fix everything I'd do it in a heartbeat but I don't it'd fix things that require a change in the zeitgeist.

Also: Porn isn't free speech (the idiot who first tried to equate the do is a fuck up) but making the argument for banning porn if we were in the 1960s would have no objection from me personally. But in the modern day it's a different beast, since it's largely online and getting the government and law involved would open the door to more shit, possibly more than we see now where it's just trannies having too much sway (Cloudfare dropping kiwifarms, to name one). The accessibility of it to children is the most justifiable reason to implement a ban and/or ID restrictions, but the counterarguments have been done to death by others already (allowing the gov to decide what you can or cannot access in your own home, how it might envelop other, non-porn things too eventually).

Also offloading responsibility and putting blame on the government and the websites themselves also absolves parents of any responsibility (and shame, remember) in raising their children. Banning porn feels like an ultimately ineffectual and somewhat hollow measure to solve some of the issues we have, and could be the basis for further restrictions that might actually affect you personally once the opposition gets their hands on them. Normalise shame, normalising shaming, and force parents to take responsibility for what their kids can access, then the problem with porn problem might stop being so pronounced.

The answer to 2025 isn't 1933 (Nazi Germany; too much authoritarian), or 1922 (Weimer Germany; too much freedom) — it's 2030. Hopefully we'll see not too much of either, but not too little too.

TLDR: Government's change. You can't law your way into fixing societal or cultural issues. The French can be partly blamed for a lot of modern problems. If shame becomes normalised again culturally, it should fix a lot of problems. Censoring speech (thus not allowing pushback to certain ideas) is arguably as culpable as porn is for the uptick in trannies. Don't allow parents to escape responsibility (or the shame they should feel) for not sufficiently protecting their children from dangers online.
Who will Israel turn to now? Will they turn to the Caliphs of Europe while praying for a White prime minister? Will they turn to China and subsequently recognize one of their designs in a act of karma? Will they turn to India and convince them that instead of bombing Pakis they should really bomb Palestinians then save the total paki death for later?

In all seriousness, Israel had been pushing this special friendship to the brink. Irregardless of incidents from the past to what they done now that you could prove, Trump is on a revenge tour. By allegedly having Mike Waltz leak the chats and definitely hacking the Signal app they use, it made Trump really feel slighted one might say. That's not even getting to how antisemitic the Zoomers on the left and right are getting.

What might happen is Trump will offer a token show of support or a few things already signed but making new deals will be off the table for the longest time. But if they decide to do anything drastic that special relationship will be gone.
Prior to America, it was the UK and France.

The UK really tries its best to be seen as relevant so they might give it a try, but not under the current government which has a schism at the moment between Lefties who hate Israel because Palestine, and Neolib centrists trying to imitate a prime minister from over 20 years ago. Openly supporting Israel might also be the catalyst for the creation of a Muslim-interests party. "Muslim-interests" party? Isn't that every UK party? The crowd laughs.

France is a candidate too because Macron is trying really hard to prove he's the leader of Europe - wants a more centralised EU, with an army to boot, etcetera. Since great powers usually prop up other countries he might see doing so for Israel was a way to prove France's legitimacy, but I'm not too familiar with the French situation to make a definitive judgement on that.

Germany is also likely. Whilst they have a sizable Muslim presence, their government is mostly white flagellants who feel the need to constantly make up for the Nazis, and their opponents in the AFD have to loudly proclaim their love for Israel to prove they aren't Nazis, so either way the government will need make sure they're there the Jews (same for Le Pen in France too actually).

India wouldn't support Israel because they're mostly friendly to the Russians, who support powers opposed to Israel in the Middle East.

Unironically, I could see Israel sacrificing Western allies and attempt to cosy up to the more amiable countries in the region. Jordan, Egypt, even Saudi Arabia. They're not on the best terms but Israel and Egypt flip flop between being friendly and hating each other all the time, Jordan intentionally held its armies back during the 6 day war and Saudi Arabia couldn't give less of a shit what its citizens think of its government. They all dislike Iran, which might be enough for co-operation. Palestine is contentious but if Israel were to do something with the West Bank Palestinian authority (some kind of in-name independence, or greater authority), whilst calling Gaza a hostile state, that might appease them, maybe.

Too soon to tell. I thought the Pakistan-India would rapidly escalate but it kind of ended on a fart so maybe wait and see until there's something definitive here.
 
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