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Should be a wild four years.

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I think the Iran situation really did open old wounds with Netanyahu, as for the other stuff I don't know but we shall see. I think also the fact Trump's whole motto has been peace through strength, he clearly doesn't like what is going on with Gaza and told Netanyahu that much last week. I know it is hard for the Palestinian flag waving retards to understand, but Trump does not hate Muslims.
 
Prescription drug prices are about to crash like they were China's economy.
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I like it, and honestly, anyone that tries to stop this, will probably end up at the bottom of a ditch somewhere on a lonely stretch of road. There are many, many people that have been waiting for this shit to happen for ages and only the actual Second Coming would stop them from taking care of anyone that would get in the way of this happening.
 
I think the Iran situation really did open old wounds with Netanyahu, as for the other stuff I don't know but we shall see. I think also the fact Trump's whole motto has been peace through strength, he clearly doesn't like what is going on with Gaza and told Netanyahu that much last week. I know it is hard for the Palestinian flag waving retards to understand, but Trump does not hate Muslims.
Netanyahu snubbed him for Biden. There is not much more to be said. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Very cold.
 
Is this the most amazing 4d chess move he's ever pulled then?
-wins good will of people whining about med prices
-pharmas gonna pharma, jack up prices
-collapse EU faggots because their free healthcare is impossible to fund
-EU literally cannot afford migrants anymore even while sacrificing their own people
-send back migrants
-africa has no medicine either, population boom leads to violence, leads to disease, leads to death, spirals
-EU faggots go into more chaos, weakened, preparing for invading and dewokifying EU faggots
-united USA and EU take over depleted husk of africa

Its probably just autistic theory crafting, the the idea is hilarious.
You might not be far off, minus some hyperbole.

Similar to Trump/Elon having a slight knock-on effect in the UK (the online safety bill couldn't be stopped because it had passed in 2023, but Trump managed to get it delayed by 3 months, in which I think some powers were actually retracted from Ofcom but that's a theory).

Getting rid of free healthcare would be a death sentence to any party that does it. No party in Europe would risk doing such a thing, whereas the pro-immigrant shit is just Left-wing kayfabe and typical Right-wing business catering. If it comes between harming the economy or shooting yourself in the head, they'll just choose the former. Immigration (legal and illegal) has done so much damage to the UK's budget that Labour proposed cutting 1 yearly payment (winter fuel allowance) to over 65s and making it harder to apply for disability — they got hammered in the polls, so anything that'd affect the free shit will do a lot of damage.

I wouldn't want to make any certain declarations, but if it results in healthcare spending exploding across Europe, you'd see mass political panic. This sort of thing honestly couldn't have come at a worse time for countries that clawed their way into power like the big 3 in Europe — Germany, France, UK — whose governments barely got into power as is, now they'll have to oversee all this. In order to maintain the healthcare system they'd have to raise taxes, which would coincide with sky high energy prices and a cost of living crisis that's affecting everywhere (expensive eggs isn't a US exclusive issue), so they'll need to do something to mitigate the costs, maybe through dealing with those who are both easy to remove and are a massive drain on it ( :) ). The only dampener on the prospect is I live in a place that'll get hit by it, which is also lessened somewhat by it potentially leading to actual positive change.

Politicians and Euros online will start flinging shit if this does come to pass and results in the above. I do apologise in advance for any politicians or notable Brits online who participate.
 
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Getting rid of free healthcare would be a death sentence to any party that does it. No party in Europe would risk doing such a thing, whereas the pro-immigrant shit is just Left-wing kayfabe and typical Right-wing business catering. If it comes between harming the economy or shooting yourself in the head, they'll just just the former. Immigration had got so bad in the UK that Labour proposed cutting 1 yearly payment (winter fuel allowance) to over 65s and making it harder to apply for disability — they got hammered in the polls, so anything that'd affect the free shit will do a lot of damage.
I'm sorry. But it's what must happen. On the plus side you have commie Labor in rn. They will suffer first.
 
Whats going to happen is this:

Hamas agrees to witkoff deal that Israel agreed to months ago but because the US offered it again "behind Israels back" they feel like they win

50-70 day ceasefire

10 live hostages will be released, 20 dead ones will be transferred

Bibi sneeds in his cuck chair
DETAILS OF THE IDAN ALEXANDER DEAL AND THE AFTERMATH from Israeli sources to C14:

- Idan Alexander's release will occur today between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. The exact time has not yet been determined - they are still working with the Red Cross and the mediators on the coordination and creating a safe corridor through which the release will occur.

- Hams threw in the towel to stop Operation 'Gideon's Chariots' at the last minute. It backed down from its demand to end the war. It has a very narrow window of time for negotiations to be conducted under fire, before the deadly maneuver begins.

- We agreed to negotiate based on the Witkoff outline and will send a delegation if the other side is serious about it. The goal is rapid negotiations that will test Hams's seriousness about a ceasefire, the release of terrorists, and humanitarian aid for a limited time.

- According to the Witkoff outline, the first phase involves a 45-day ceasefire in exchange for 10-11 live hostages and additional dead hostages. During the ceasefire, negotiations will be held on Phase B (which means ending the war and releasing all hostages. To this end, Israel demands the disarmament of Hams and the exile of the organization's leaders from the Gaza Strip

- Hams will not receive the aid. If there is aid, it will be transferred to the population only, with intermediaries involved. We will also demand that the medical condition, well-being, and nutrition of the remaining hostages be guaranteed after the first part of the deal.

- We always knew that any implementation of the Witkoff plan would begin with the release of Idan Alexander. There was no direct contact between Witkoff and Hams; there was an intermediary in the middle.

i called it. now the follow through to prove me right
 
Turkey can and they are a threat bc they sponsor Syria, there's a reason why Israel is grabbing land in Syria and trying to create a Druze buffer state.
True, but what might potentially prevent Turkey butting heads with Israel is that Israel is counted as a non-Nato ally, which might put Turkey's position in the alliance at risk if they were to oppose them on the same level as Iran. They're also opposed to Russia and actively went against them in Syria so they can't flee to CSTO. Iran and Turkey also have opposing interests. They'd otherwise be surrounded by a whole swathe of nations that have all the reason in the world to oppose them if they tried to start shit with Israel or attempted to muscle their way into the area (Syria was given a free pass since NATO wasn't friendly with Assad and they were a lesser of two evils compared to Russia politically). Funding or aiding those at war with Israel is more likely (just like Iran does with Hezbollah and such) but getting involved directly or being politically hostile to the same extent as Iran would probably not be in the cards.
 
True, but what might potentially prevent Turkey butting heads with Israel is that Israel is counted as a non-Nato ally, which might put Turkey's position in the alliance at risk if they were to oppose them on the same level as Iran.
turkey is too retarded to care

also offtopic but along the lines of porn

why are casinos like fanduel sending me offers through the mail? I don't gamble and i hate gambling. It's a severe addiction

people here are talking about porn but gambling is far more destructive. imagine if it was legal for companies to send you mail with girls spreadeagle urging you to sign up regardless if the person at the address has problems like an addiction they are trying to get over

it pisses me off
 
Congratulations for kikes for pissing off a President who half his family is jewish or married to jews and whose entire first term's foreign policy was driven by a Jew in support of jews worldwide.
Guess its never not enough huh?
lets look at this objectively

what's concrete:

waltz invited the journo to the signal chat
Waltz was removed from a high clearance position and put into another high clearance position
Americans who were clear on the Houthi operations being a piracy operation with no relevance to Israel complete the piracy operation without involving Israel. America still has 2 THAAD units in Israel
Trump is visiting KSA, UAE, and Qatar
Americans have negotiated with Hamas through an intermediate to release an Israeli hostage and to agree on the structure of the ceasefire talks.

the honest answer is that retarded brownoids like the person im quoting and /pol/ retards genuinely believed that Trump was controlled by Israel and whenever I explained shit like the Houthi operation having nothing to do with Israel, these same people would shout me down and call me a kike

now that trump is doing what I said he would be doing, brownoids (who only see things in black and white) flipped from TRUMP IS ISRAELS BITCH to TRUMP IS PISSED OFF AT ISRAEL because they are retards.

people are making up all this drama and hype over normal shit
 
I'm sorry. But it's what must happen. On the plus side you have commie Labor in rn. They will suffer first.
Every country that'd see the most benefit from a reverse-course on neoliberalism, globalism and Leftism, has in power the parties that have contributed to the worsening of their countries whilst also doing every slimy trick in their arsenal to stave off the inevitable paradigm shift. When you do all in your power to keep a straggle on it, it ends up fucking you over hard once you've lost it. Also everyone might get hit with increased taxes. Hard times and all that.

France: Le Pen (biggest Right-wing name in France) barred from elected office or running for so until after the next election near 2030. Couple this with inter-party coordination preventing her party winning in seats where she got the majority I.E. Macron support higher? Left-wing doesn't run. Left-wing support higher? Macron party doesn't run. Le Pen was the highest polling candidate prior to March. Now the parties that stopped her from winning the most recent election will suffer the brunt. The guy who replaced Le Pen is also the highest polling, and is more radical than she is (so nice going).

Germany: Spent just shy of a decade trying to get the AFD banned, limited, or completely ostracised in the public's eye. CDU ('Right' party) categorically refuses to work with them, causing the Left and/or SPU to gain control in areas they otherwise wouldn't thanks to the CDU's refusal of co-operation. CDU formed a coalition with the SPD, their ideological opponents in theory, to create the current government, when they could've also ruled the government if they had formed one with the AFD.

UK: Conservative government who was socially liberal but economically conservative (except with social spending). Elected in 2010 on the promise of lowering immigration, did nothing about it. Every election won after was done so on the lie that external forces were tying their hands on the issue of immigration, but due to catering to business interests, they never did so. The Brexit referendum was only allowed to pass because the Conservatives that supported it did so under the belief they'd eventually cut the tape on some regulations and cut corporate taxation. The subsequent general election was done under the guise of delivering a hard brexit (no deals or concessions with EU), which was immediately ignored, but to make up for that they promised to cap immigration to 100k a year (the business-aligned MPs kicked her out of power for this). Covid happened, a PM who did nothing except raise energy prices resigned, new PM slashed taxes (MPs kicked her out of power), the true figure of yearly immigration as plastered to our screens (700k), a shitty plan was proposed (Fly them to Rwanda!) that was blocked by the EU, then a disheartened population refused to vote. Labour got in, a couple months later a black teen murdered some white kids, riots happened, then they threatened to take money away from the olds. Now the anti-immigrant, pro-free speech Reform are polling first (there's some foibles, but who doesn't have them?) and are poised to sweep come 2029.

So, yeah. Things could get funny in Europe. Or better, at minimum. If "free speech" is a consistent winner, then right-wing parties might look into other things to ease restrictions on. Fingers crossed for guns.

turkey is too retarded to care

also offtopic but along the lines of porn

why are casinos like fanduel sending me offers through the mail? I don't gamble and i hate gambling. It's a severe addiction

people here are talking about porn but gambling is far more destructive. imagine if it was legal for companies to send you mail with girls spreadeagle urging you to sign up regardless if the person at the address has problems like an addiction they are trying to get over

it pisses me off
Maybe. The last time Turkey did something that put them in conflict with a Nato-aligned power was in 2022. So yeah, they might be retarded, but they'd essentially push themselves further away from Nato and the EU (the latter which gives them cash) and it'd fuck over a ton, which might be a win. If Israel was being aggressive to foreign powers sans Turkey, and Turkey starts getting in their shit for no reason, you might see a repeat of 2022 wherein Israel's military operations and size become justifiable in the eyes of the international community, just like for Greece.

Also offtopic: In the UK we had something similar but not as explicit to what you described (sorta). It was a common trend to put a topless woman on the 3rd page of newspapers for a while.
Page 3, or Page Three, was a British newspaper convention of publishing a large image of a topless female glamour model (known as a Page 3 girl) on the third page of mainstream red top tabloids. The Sun introduced the feature in November 1970, which boosted its readership and prompted competing tabloids—including The Daily Mirror, The Sunday People, and The Daily Star—to begin featuring topless models on their own third pages.
Although Page 3's defenders portrayed it as a harmless British cultural tradition, the feature was controversial throughout its history, drawing criticism both from conservatives, who tended to view it as softcore pornography inappropriate for inclusion in national newspapers, and feminists, who argued that Page 3 objectified women's bodies, negatively affected girls' and women's body image, and perpetuated sexism. Some politicians, most notably Clare Short and Caroline Lucas, campaigned to have Page 3 images banned from newspapers, although other politicians, including Nick Clegg and Ed Vaizey, expressed concern that such a ban would compromise press freedom. The British government never enacted legislation against Page 3. In 2012, activist Lucy-Anne Holmes launched the No More Page 3 campaign with the goal of persuading newspaper editors and owners to end the feature voluntarily. The campaign gained support from over 140 MPs, as well as a number of trade unions, universities, and women's groups.
In February 2013, Rupert Murdoch, owner of The Sun, suggested that Page 3 could become a "halfway house", featuring glamour photographs without showing nudity. In August of that year, The Sun's Republic of Ireland edition replaced topless Page 3 girls with clothed glamour models. The Sun's UK editions followed suit in January 2015, discontinuing Page 3 after more than 44 years.
 
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So, yeah. Things could get funny in Europe. Or better, at minimum. If "free speech" is a consistent winner, then right-wing parties might look into other things to ease restrictions on. Fingers crossed for guns.
Even if this causes a turnover in leadership, they won't give you your guns back. You have to acknowledge them as a right first. Not a privilege that can be taken so freely. Europe is not ready for that. They would have to acknowledge their people as equals and not serfs under the almighty government.
 
Even if this causes a turnover in leadership, they won't give you your guns back. You have to acknowledge them as a right first. Not a privilege that can be taken so freely. Europe is not ready for that. They would have to acknowledge their people as equals and not serfs under the almighty government.
Actually, the UK bill of rights in 1689 did just that in fact:
The Act asserted "certain ancient rights and liberties" by declaring that:
  • the pretended power of suspending the laws and dispensing with (i.e. ignoring) laws by regal authority without consent of Parliament is illegal;
  • the commission for ecclesiastical causes is illegal; levying taxes without grant of Parliament is illegal;
  • it is the right of the subjects to petition the king, and prosecutions for such petitioning are illegal;
  • keeping a standing army in time of peace, unless it be with consent of Parliament, is against law;
  • Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;
  • election of members of Parliament ought to be free;
  • the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament;
  • excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted;
  • jurors in trials for high treason ought to be freeholders;
  • promises of fines and forfeitures before conviction are illegal and void;
  • for redress of all grievances, and for the amending, strengthening and preserving of the laws, Parliaments ought to be held frequently.
Unfortunately when all power is vested entirely in the legislature, a lot of things can quite easily get overturned. It'd be like if the US house of Representatives also had the powers of the President, Senate and Supreme Court. Constitutional changes can be altered at the drop of a dime and things which were formerly rights can now be buried with asterisks. I know the UK had a king, but it was the empowered legislature that passed the taxes and voted for war to begin with (The very first line in the rights was forbidding the monarch to act without Parliament's consent) don't forget that.

Once speech is regained, the subject of guns might enter the discourse once more. Owning a pistol at bare minimum is in living memory for a lot of brits, and considering the increase of crime that followed their banning, there's an argument to be made for their legalisation again. Just takes time.
 
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