US, China agree to cut tariffs bigly - Nothing. Ever. Habbens.

U.S. and China agree to slash reciprocal tariffs in major step toward easing trade war​

The world’s two biggest economies agreed to a 90-day pause on most of their levies after a first round of trade talks in Switzerland over the weekend.


May 12, 2025, 7:31 AM UTC / Updated May 12, 2025, 8:38 AM UTC
By Jennifer Jett and Peter Guo

HONG KONG — The United States and China said Monday they had agreed to a 90-day pause on most of the tariffs they have imposed on each other since last month, in a major step toward easing a trade war between the two powers that has rattled the global economy.

U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports will be cut to 30% from 145%, while China’s levies on U.S. imports will be cut to 10% from 125%, the two countries said in a joint statement.

The announcement comes after officials from the two countries met in Geneva, Switzerland, over the weekend for their first face-to-face talks on the tariffs, which began mounting after President Donald Trump’s April 2 announcement of sweeping global duties. The tariffs have made trade between the world’s two largest economies all but impossible and threatened to upend the global economy.

“We were able to have very constructive and positive conversations with our Chinese counterparts, who clearly came to deal this week,” U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said at a news conference in Geneva.
The Chinese Ministry of Commerce said the agreement was an “important step” and “creates favorable conditions for further narrowing differences and deepening cooperation.”

“It is hoped that the U.S. will build on the foundation of this meeting, continue to work in the same direction with China” and “completely correct its unilateral tariff practices,” a spokesperson said.

The two countries said they would also “establish a mechanism to continue discussions about economic and trade relations.” The U.S. will continue to be represented by Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Greer, while China will continue to be represented by Vice Premier He Lifeng.

The discussions may take place alternately in China and the U.S., or in a third country agreed upon by both countries. The two sides may also conduct working-level consultations on relevant economic and trade issues.

The afternoon announcement sent Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index soaring and the Chinese index closed more than 3% up. Mainland Chinese markets closed higher before details of the agreement were released.

European indexes were also trading higher early Monday, with U.S. stocks leaping in pre-market trading. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was up 2% and the S&P 500 index was up 2.6%.

Markets across Asia had upbeat sessions Monday in anticipation of some kind of agreement from the U.S.-China talks, as well as a ceasefire between India and Pakistan that seems to be holding after conflict erupted between the two South Asian rivals last week.

The U.S.-China tariff agreement “will save medium and small enterprises on both sides of the Pacific,” said Tianchen Xu, a Beijing-based economist at the Economist Intelligence Unit, a financial forecasting service.

It will come as “a very big relief for struggling small Chinese exporters, some of which have already lost U.S. orders for weeks,” he said in emailed comments.

U.S. importers, meanwhile, “will be able to avoid a surge in import costs,” he said. “This carries positive implications for the overall economy and the labor market.”

The agreement exceeded expectations and has “rekindled global hope,” said Wang Wen, dean of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies at Renmin University of China.

But Xu and Wang both cautioned that many difficult issues remain to be resolved and the trade war could potentially reignite.

“This situation is a major test of the political wisdom and negotiation capability of the decision-makers in both China and the U.S.,” Wang said.
Joint Statement on U.S.-China Economic and Trade Meeting in Geneva
The White House
May 12, 2025
The Government of the United States of America (the “United States”) and the Government of the People’s Republic of China (“China”),

Recognizing the importance of their bilateral economic and trade relationship to both countries and the global economy;

Recognizing the importance of a sustainable, long-term, and mutually beneficial economic and trade relationship;

Reflecting on their recent discussions and believing that continued discussions have the potential to address the concerns of each side in their economic and trade relationship; and

Moving forward in the spirit of mutual opening, continued communication, cooperation, and mutual respect;

The Parties commit to take the following actions by May 14, 2025:

The United States will (i) modify the application of the additional ad valorem rate of duty on articles of China (including articles of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and the Macau Special Administrative Region) set forth in Executive Order 14257 of April 2, 2025, by suspending 24 percentage points of that rate for an initial period of 90 days, while retaining the remaining ad valorem rate of 10 percent on those articles pursuant to the terms of said Order; and (ii) removing the modified additional ad valorem rates of duty on those articles imposed by Executive Order 14259 of April 8, 2025 and Executive Order 14266 of April 9, 2025.

China will (i) modify accordingly the application of the additional ad valorem rate of duty on articles of the United States set forth in Announcement of the Customs Tariff Commission of the State Council No. 4 of 2025, by suspending 24 percentage points of that rate for an initial period of 90 days, while retaining the remaining additional ad valorem rate of 10 percent on those articles, and removing the modified additional ad valorem rates of duty on those articles imposed by Announcement of the Customs Tariff Commission of the State Council No. 5 of 2025 and Announcement of the Customs Tariff Commission of the State Council No. 6 of 2025; and (ii) adopt all necessary administrative measures to suspend or remove the non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since April 2, 2025.

After taking the aforementioned actions, the Parties will establish a mechanism to continue discussions about economic and trade relations. The representative from the Chinese side for these discussions will be He Lifeng, Vice Premier of the State Council, and the representatives from the U.S. side will be Scott Bessent, Secretary of the Treasury, and Jamieson Greer, United States Trade Representative. These discussions may be conducted alternately in China and the United States, or a third country upon agreement of the Parties. As required, the two sides may conduct working-level consultations on relevant economic and trade issues.
That damn/wonderful Trump cucked/brilliantly succeeded it's Joever/we are so back!
 
Remember, before Trump got elected it was impossible to negotiate fairer trade deals with other countries. Then, when he came into power, it was impossible to declare tariffs on other countries. Now, we've successfully not only brought countries to the negotiation table, but got some good deals out of it.
Never listen to these half-wit doomer soyjaks suffering from learned helplessness. They're part of the reason why we're here to begin with.
 
I saw a few spergly write-ups about this that lead off with US CUTS TARIFFS as though this was a failure by Trump instead of a capitulation by China.
Remember, before Trump got elected it was impossible to negotiate fairer trade deals with other countries. Then, when he came into power, it was impossible to declare tariffs on other countries. Now, we've successfully not only brought countries to the negotiation table, but got some good deals out of it.
Never listen to these half-wit doomer soyjaks suffering from learned helplessness. They're part of the reason why we're here to begin with.
When the people negotiating for you are in the pocket of the opposition it is impossible to negotiate deals.
 
Pussy-in-chief doing what he does best. Totally called it by the way. Thanks for the dip-buying opportunity.
His plan is to repeal them in a few months. He will either pretend it was some master negotiator move and his supporters will forget about "bring back manufacturing", or he will be forced to by congress so he can tell the working class it's those dang dirty Trump opposition that's preventing him from creating gay maga utopia. This is a good time to buy the dip.

Also:
"by suspending 24 percentage points of that rate for an initial period of 90 days, while retaining the remaining additional ad valorem rate of 10 percent on those articles,"

Lol it's not even 30%
 
Nice to see negotiations are still ongoing, hoping for a good outcome for the US and a poor one for the PRC.
 
Never listen to these half-wit doomer soyjaks suffering from learned helplessness. They're part of the reason why we're here to begin with.
Doomers are absolute scum. They are the laziest most miserable people on the planet. They just want everyone to be as miserable and degenerate as they are.
 
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Wow what happened to those 80%/145%/245% tariffs, pussy-in-chief?
 
Nice to see negotiations are still ongoing, hoping for a good outcome for the US and a poor one for the PRC.
The current agreement is just a prelude, in and of itself it only suspends the trade war for 90 days, the main thing is getting both powers in actual continued talks, with the incentive that there is a Sword of Damocles hanging over the head of China. Any real progress on redressing the terms of trade hinges on how much more gets done at the negotiating table.
 
I still wish for total dropshipper death with huge tariffs but we'll see.
 
The thing everyone with an IQ over 70 said was happening turns out to have been happening all along.

It needs to be said as frequently as possible: the man literally wrote a book about playing hardball in order to get the other side to offer a more favorable deal, yet somehow it didn't occur to half the country that perhaps he was playing hardball in order to get the other side to offer a more favorable deal.
 
The thing everyone with an IQ over 70 said was happening turns out to have been happening all along.

It needs to be said as frequently as possible: the man literally wrote a book about playing hardball in order to get the other side to offer a more favorable deal, yet somehow it didn't occur to half the country that perhaps he was playing hardball in order to get the other side to offer a more favorable deal.
You expect niggers to know how to read.
 
Cuckold Trump. What happened to bringing back the Industrial Revolution for the American worker. What about muh factories?
 
Backchannel talks likely started even before 'Liberation Day'. Trade is critical to Xi keeping power. He cannot afford thousands of factories closed and millions out of work.

This is a first public step by both sides. Am sure negotiations continue in private. This will go through multiple iterations.
 
Orange man buck breaks Winnie the Pooh as promised. Doomers in shambles. What are the odds?
 
Remember, before Trump got elected it was impossible to negotiate fairer trade deals with other countries. Then, when he came into power, it was impossible to declare tariffs on other countries. Now, we've successfully not only brought countries to the negotiation table, but got some good deals out of it.
Never listen to these half-wit doomer soyjaks suffering from learned helplessness. They're part of the reason why we're here to begin with.
See as well:
It's impossible to deport people
It's impossible to secure the border
It's impossible to cut spending
It's impossible to risk the dow dropping
It's impossible for trump to win (x2)

I'm so lucky that I range from neutral to moderate supporter of trump because I can't imagine being a detractor (which to be fair I was until 2017 so i know how they think) the motherfucker is going to go down in history as somebody who changed the world after a 70 year gridlock that raped the west daily. He has exposed so many of our greatest fears to be paper tiger bullshit shoved down our throats to keep us complacent, and as such it's clear many of the people who pushed these lies had our worst interest in mind (or more likely were just incompetent retards).

I can't imagine being a leftist right now, there's no amount of mental gymnastics that could get you out of this.
 
I can't imagine being a leftist right now
The leftists are perfectly comfy. Trump is evil, incompetent, and bad for America and everyone they see and listen to agrees. Egg prices are through the roof, then the stock market is crashing, then retaliatory terrifs are crushing the US, then he is getting overruled by judges on immigration. Nevermind each of those reverse by the next week, that isn't important, a new Drumpf just got btfo'd just dropped.
 
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