Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Yours Truly 2095]

The Dream™

Also I found a old Colt 1911 mag today for $10. Stamped C as Made by Check-Mate. 1970 or later, has the pony but also a dimple follower. I'm happy about that deal. The store otherwise had insane prices on everything. Also found an E Lander used AR magazine for $10, I guess they're Israeli? They're steel mags. Never heard of them. Most posts I find about them are for their 6.5 mags or from 12 years ago+. I'll try it for $10.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

ammunition is a stale industry. the only way to increase profits is to invent a new cartridge, and sell the guns chambered for it. problem is its rare for these cartridges to take off but when they do there is a lot of profit to be made with licensing etc. developing a new cartridge and getting a manufacturer to make a run of guns is relatively cheap, so its throw everything at the wall and see what sticks situation.

6.5 creed is the latest success story in that realm, but even that was not 100% new. it was built on the know ballistics of 6.5x55 swede and the case was taken from .30 TC. so it already had a solid foundation for success.

the 30 super carry has a new case. its similar in size to the .30 french long but can't easily be used for brass (which a lot of people were hoping for.) and the name is stupid which actually matters a lot.

The only way to be successful is to sell the new caliber to a military customer. Literally who gives a shit about a pistol round slightly smaller than 9mm? No way to generate enough sales to be successful.

 

[Glock 19 Gen 5]

Also found an E Lander used AR magazine for $10, I guess they're Israeli? They're steel mags. Never heard of them.

E Landers are well liked by the dude over at Small Arm Solutions. Seem to be a nice, heavy, steel magazine.

They are Israeli and can be bought new here in the states from Primary Arms, on sale for ~$12 right now, but they show a normal listed price of ~$17 and Primary Arms is the exclusive distributor of the 5.56 30 rounders (or so they claim). Their metal 40 rounders are interesting with their metal band to affix on the extension and their coupled 10 rounders for ban states are also funny looking. GLHF with the new mag

 

[Bassomatic]

Those 10 rounder couples look pretty dope, I'm tempted to grab a 40 and a 10 couple just to have. In other news got little range time (read an entire afternoon) ran some drills plinked etc... 500 rounds 223 isn't as cheap as it was. Least it's not hard to get and I reload.

So I am still hunting for yet another thing (have you noticed each post I make here is something esoteric AF, memes or something I want and or bought?)... Bday coming up and this year house will be paid in full.

Mrs Basso really doesn't mind my spending, I'm set a gift to me is another big game rifle. For those who don't know my only is a 416 Ruger #1 and it was my gift for my MBA. Sorry for being a faggot blog, I like pussy (aka I don't use reddit) but I'm pretty sold 375 H&H is the round I want because it's just cool and the "cat" round. I'm also a history geek. Now with out too much PLing, I'm young enough... I could go hunt anything. My health is good enough (showing my age lol) I'm active and in shape... I don't personally want to hunt a leopard or anything, I'm kinda a hippy too but this is going somewhere.

I'm looking for a single shot or double that is "big game good" and I don't mind spending mid high 4 figures.. It's a big treat for me, but I don't want to break the bank I want something BALLER as fuck but also I can take out and maybe even drop.

I think as a mil surp fag, maybe used is the way to go? Also my 416 BITES, I will never let it go, any ideas on comp/brake or something? The only time I took it hunting I didn't have time for ears and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. So what could be worse? lol. I had a purple shoulder because I was rushed.

Either way, happy spring friends for those who finally can get out side.

Have any of you been watching Ian? I really enjoyed his last video about the Irish side trap door rifles and the crazy history Mausers first gun order was basically smuggled.

 

[Club Sandwich]

ammunition is a stale industry.

i want to make cheap 9mm out of recycled aluminum for both case and jacket; basically blazer but without the stupid attempts at marking it up to 90% of the price of brass. combined with offering a spent case recycling program like some other smaller manufacturers do, it should be reasonably profitable and sustainable since metal recycling is somewhat cost effective (vs plastic recycling which isn't). however without a source for the primary explosive it isn't going to meet the cost requirements and i don't want to spend the effort only to have another blazer cartridge that can't deliver on the value proposition i want. there aren't any small arms primer manufacturers in the US that are entirely domestic - they all source from overseas for lead styphnate or lead azide - the same is true for lead smelters and some other materials.

while the economics for globalized supply chains can reduce prices by having portions be price-optimized via economies of scale and importation cost differences for currency, labor, materials, et c. they are also vulnerable to political issues stemming from war, tariffs, export bans, et c and that stuff is out of your hands. at least when it's domestic you have the parts nearby to actually do the work and make product for sale. business in the US is relatively cheap for materials, it's the labor that's expensive. however paying a reasonable wage and to keep production domestic is worth a premium imho - i just hope the market can agree with me on that and support a domestic business. it's a big risk not to in that sense.

best case scenario is restarting lead smelting in the US and primary explosive precursor manufacturing with appropriate environmental efforts in someplace like arizona or nevada where there's lots of desert (cheap land) and access to a rail head for mass shipments to producers of small arms ammunition in bulk or OTR transfer to hubs for final manufacturing. lead smelting primarily produces waste water, slag heaps, toxic (heavy metal) emissions, so that has to be kept in mind and either catalyzed or figured out containerizing it and idk using it as solid "slugs" for a rods from god program.

just my $0.02 and i kind of got off topic, but i'm pretty annoyed at the state of domestic ammunition manufacturing.

 

[Bassomatic]

just my $0.02 and i kind of got off topic, but i'm pretty annoyed at the state of domestic ammunition manufacturing.

I thought PSA would be doing Harambe's work and give us dirt cheap ammo. But this time line doesn't allow us good things.

Also God Bless you for dreaming of a kiwi 9mm, if that comes to be I promise to reload a case with range trash and lose half my face in your honor.

 

[Club Sandwich]

PSA would be doing Harambe's work and give us dirt cheap ammo

i was hopeful too, but if they're sourcing materials from others that are overseas and those imports are subject to instability in price or availability combined with a business that is for-profit and is pricing for what the market can bear then the cost is going to have a margin well above the COGS. personally i can't hold that against someone that has employees to pay and investors to pay and keep things rolling and profitable. i can complain at stalled efforts to reduce prices through competition and innovation - that level of stagnation is just plain bad.

alternate ammunition design might be the way forward to shake up the industry - which opens the door to something like perovskite, a crystalline material that can be formulated into a very clean primary explosive for a more conventional primer and offer domestic manufacturing and open the door to electrical (rather than mechanical) ignition. that alone can get investment money which with good design, value, and performance, can get big government contracts and with that help reduce ammunition prices by no longer having a lot of environmental risks and reducing manufacturing costs with a simplified formula (most perovskite so far are one-pot solutions without needing washing or drying as separate steps).

 

[Bassomatic]

If memory serves me, PSA said they wouldn't take gov contracts and all ammo goes to layfolks. Expecting/hoping us plinkers etc would buy at price enough to earn a profit.

Aside all this I want to get something to melt better than lead. I just use a goodwill hot plate lol. But to melt copper etc and not need to buy bullets proper would help cut cost and reduce supply needs.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

It's a little incredible to me that anyone has a hard time SELLING AMMO. Shouldn't it be the easiest shit in the world to find the world's cheapest whitebox ammo and just make it look cool as fuck on the package?

I'm not saying this would make good ammo. It just blows my mind that anyone should struggle in an industry with this much demand.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

It's a little incredible to me that anyone has a hard time SELLING AMMO. Shouldn't it be the easiest shit in the world to find the world's cheapest whitebox ammo and just make it look cool as fuck on the package?

I'm not saying this would make good ammo. It just blows my mind that anyone should struggle in an industry with this much demand.

It’s a very low margin business for popular calibers, and a very low volume business for unpopular calibers.

 

[DocAwe]

It's a little incredible to me that anyone has a hard time SELLING AMMO. Shouldn't it be the easiest shit in the world to find the world's cheapest whitebox ammo and just make it look cool as fuck on the package?

I'm not saying this would make good ammo. It just blows my mind that anyone should struggle in an industry with this much demand.

It's probably not so much that it's impossibly difficult to do.
It's more likely all the regulations and licensing you have to deal with.
At least in the USA.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Well, if the industry is too saturated to make it viable/profitable, that's a good omen for us, the consumer.

That said, pick a random page in this thread, and see how long it takes for ammo prices to come up. lol

THIS IS THE SONG THAT NEVER ENDS...

 

[Dreamland]

The title made me believe it was about DIY making a real-life version of that weapon in Brigador that melts flesh and gives survivors a short future filled with cancer.

Severely disappointed.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Store I stopped in had all the P320 grip modules to try on a display. I can see why people do enjoy them. The Large grip filled my hands in all the right ways. It's a pity

 

[SaltyFantaMan]

Today I picked up an MP5 'clone,' MKE's AP5

Despite being made by turkroaches, I can't find anything wrong with it, though I have yet to shoot it. Got it for $850 from a guy in a parking lot, so I'm pretty stoked. Might FRT it.

Regarding the FN softcases, I must agree, they are exquisid toobs.
The only OEM gun case worth anything

 

[Club Sandwich]

FN softcases

eagle industries makes them. i have a small stack since they were quite common for handgun "all in one" cases for a while.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

The Barrett MRAD/MK22 has been having some oopsies, first receivers cracking, now bolt handles snapping off and firing when the bolt is touched ala the early Sig Cross

Sight, looks like Barrett QC is in the shitter too

at SOF Week Sig had an armor plate of no more than a few mm's to boast of their armor pen capabilities. range is stated but barrel length isn't. I still have my doubts as to whether Sig Hybrid ammo can pen armor at any reasonable distance without tungsten

Hehe SIG is probably assuming Russian and Chinese armor is 1-3mm pot metal.

This is some shit Mark Serbu would come up with if he was 40 years younger and terminally online and what Sci-fi writers though Neon Mohawk'd Gang members would slaughter each other with in the slums of Neo-Chicago in the far off year of 2025

Ahaha gang members in Chicago will probably be using these in less than 18 months

I thought PSA would be doing Harambe's work and give us dirt cheap ammo. But this time line doesn't allow us good things.

They are buuuttt it might blow up your rifle. PSA QC is a suggestion.

They're also kneecapped because.... There isn't a SINGLE lead smelter left in the USA due to Obama.

The title made me believe it was about DIY making a real-life version of that weapon in Brigador that melts flesh and gives survivors a short future filled with cancer.
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Severely disappointed.

Brigador fan detected, OPINION RESPECTED.

eagle industries makes them. i have a small stack since they were quite common for handgun "all in one" cases for a while.

Yep, I have a PSA branded one for my Dagger.

 

[BikeLock]

eagle industries makes them. i have a small stack since they were quite common for handgun "all in one" cases for a while.

HK had them on their own web store (HK branded, of course) on sale, so I bought one in OD and Grey.

They may still do.

 

[crab fucker]

Those cases do look nice yeah. Sometimes I don't wanna bring the whole range bag if I'm just going to be shooting less than two-hundred rounds and I just cram the ammo boxes into the soft case and head off.

 

[Internorth Inc]

Sight, looks like Barrett QC is in the shitter too

Seems like they're the latest victim of Foreign Buyout Syndrome(tm), guess the Czechs are the only ones who can actually improve quality over time.