Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[obsdj]

There have been attempts to strike this sort of stuff multiple times and each time its been denied.

As far as I can see in the docket, there was only ever one motion to strike (ECF 65) in January of last year. The courts were playing hot potato from Utah to Florida and back, and finally denied it this past September (ECF 152).

 

[Sneed Force One]

Your honor, I move to dismiss this action because Mr.Greer is a stinky weenie droolface.
Respectfully submitted.

 

[Napoleon III]

Last time he called it very relevant.

One thing the Judge has made very clear several times to Russ even if Russ doesn't listen is that this isn't a defamation lawsuit.

How much of Greer's filing actually pertains to copyright and how much is just Plightspering? I'd say something like 50% of each. Hardin can be quite sure the Judge just straight up won't care about anything that isn't tied to copyright somehow.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

If the judge is smart, he'll bite on one of the sanctioned-related arguments from Hardin so that he can settle things in an easier, more final manner. No need to get into the weeds on jurisdiction, venue, the 10th Circuit's fucked up case law, etc., if he just dismisses because of misconduct or failure to pay a fee. Without doing any legal research, I assume the standard of review is abuse of discretion, which means it's far more likely that the ruling gets affirmed on appeal than a de novo review by a judge who thinks Josh is a murdering affiliate of a New Zealand Muslim massacrer.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

If the judge is smart, he'll bite on one of the sanctioned-related arguments from Hardin so that he can settle things in an easier, more final manner. No need to get into the weeds on jurisdiction, venue, the 10th Circuit's fucked up case law, etc., if he just dismisses because of misconduct or failure to pay a fee. Without doing any legal research, I assume the standard of review is abuse of discretion, which means it's far more likely that the ruling gets affirmed on appeal than a de novo review by a judge who thinks Josh is a murdering affiliate of a New Zealand Muslim massacrer.

Sanctions that result in dismissal, I'm pretty sure, are de novo review.

 

[RodgerDodger]

There have been attempts to strike this sort of stuff multiple times and each time its been denied.

That was under the previous complaint. And it was before the Magistrate seemingly realized that Russ is a lying piece of shit who lies to the court with every filing.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Last time he called it very relevant.

I seem to remember Hardin just calling it scurillous in a motion to strike and sanctions. I don't think he really got into the meat of the issue or tried to argue it.

I could be misremembering though.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Sanctions that result in dismissal, I'm pretty sure, are de novo review.

Imagine if the judge had so many reasons to dismiss that every time they de novo'd it back to him he just dismissed it under a different reasoning. The legal equivalent of the UNO reverse card.

10th: "You WILL tard guard this fucking moron, Kiwi Farms must die!"

Judge: "No u!"

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Sanctions that result in dismissal, I'm pretty sure, are de novo review.

Hm. If so, it's still better to do a de novo review centered on Greer's misconduct than one centered on an application of law to facts.

 

[BoomerPrime]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Kinda a weird wording though.

Would it be terribly shocking if Greer reported a lawyer to the Bar of a State he's not even practicing in?

> "In fact, 4 people have commited suicide as a result of Kiwi Farms' hate campaigns"
> Lists only 3 people
> Quoted article only lists 3 people

In before the next filing blames KF for the tragic death of Steve Taylor, key witness.

This is probably because word processing on a phone is a bitch, but the ever-increasing margins in Russ' motion are really distracting.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this...it had me seething for no good reason.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

This is probably because word processing on a phone is a bitch, but the ever-increasing margins in Russ' motion are really distracting.

There are other weird quirks. He cites a case from Westlaw and includes a quote with a *1146 in the middle of it, even though the case text does not have that star pagination in it. I looked it up to see if he was lying or misquoting the case—because the citation made no sense with that page number in the middle of it—but he somehow copy and pasted a sentence that included a page indicator that does not exist in Westlaw's version of the case. I have no clue how he even did that, except that only a retard could manage that.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

100,000 PAGES! All with secret infringement!

Where was it admitted that there are 100,000 pages on Russell Greer?

He's mentioned having "thousands of threads" by which I assume he means pages of the thread, but even the 4596 page main+ this one is only 5509. I doubt there're 94,491 pages worth of Russell in the off topic threads split from this one!

 

[Harvey Danger]

In before the next filing blames KF for the tragic death of Steve Taylor, key witness.

Considering the Mother Jones kill count was also people that KF heard about dying instead of causing it, I think it's fair to add Steve to the counter.

I did enjoy the "Jurisdiction is proper because of these cases..." and both were about physical goods. The Zippo test also fails as the the case Soma Medical International v. Standard Chartered Bank shows.

I am shocked that Greer was citing cases inappropriately and hiding the context of the quotes. Absolutely shocked, I tell you.

 

[Silver Coin Anon]

I recall a defendant filing mentioning "(tens of) thousands of posts" so Greer's addled brain invented a fake number to make his malicious negligence seem forgivable.

 

[Harm]

In Greer's defense, there is no proof that Steve was ever truly unwilling to testify, even in death, so if the judge was fair and just then he would simply moot the issue outright.

Considering the Mother Jones kill count was also people that KF heard about dying instead of causing it, I think it's fair to add Steve to the counter.

We can't prove that we didn't kill Steve, so Greer should be able to use this argumentation successfully.

 

[AnOminous]

Sanctions that result in dismissal, I'm pretty sure, are de novo review.

Sounds pretty abuse of discretion to me, at least if it is established by facts of record that the activity is sanctionable and the remaining issue is what sanctions are actually appropriate. I don't think it's automatically one or the other though.

One of those fun "mixed questions of fact and law."

I think it's one of those things where it's almost merely a nominal distinction between the two, because terminating sanctions are considered the most extreme that can be awarded. They're subjected to more scrutiny.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

In Greer's defense, there is no proof that Steve was ever truly unwilling to testify, even in death, so if the judge was fair and just then he would simply moot the issue outright.

Greer should move the court to allow a Ouija board deposition of Steve Taylor. Null would be so owned and embarrassed if he did that—he would volunteer to taken down Greer's thread entirely.

I think it's one of those things where it's almost merely a nominal distinction between the two, because terminating sanctions are considered the most extreme that can be awarded. They're subjected to more scrutiny.

Absolutely they would be given more scrutiny—but even the harshest scrutiny only goes so far if a case is dismissed because the plaintiff failed to pay the required filing fees.

 

[talk talk talk]

Sounds pretty abuse of discretion to me, at least if it is established by facts of record that the activity is sanctionable and the remaining issue is what sanctions are actually appropriate.

Good thing The Hardship is putting all of Russ's weird lying and whoremongering into the record.

 

[RodgerDodger]

In Greer's defense, there is no proof that Steve was ever truly unwilling to testify, even in death, so if the judge was fair and just then he would simply moot the issue outright.


We can't prove that we didn't kill Steve, so Greer should be able to use this argumentation successfully.

Ah! Using the 10th Circuits ruling that Kiwi Farms is capable of Time Travel to add to our Kill Count. Brilliant!

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Would it be terribly shocking if Greer reported a lawyer to the Bar of a State he's not even practicing in?

I'm pretty sure Greer has reported the Hardship to every Bar he can think of, Virginia, Utah, Nevada, Virgin Airlines, and the American Honkytonk Bar Association.

Some probably get forwarded to Hardin, some they just toss in the trash.

As for the "ten thousand pages" I assume he's referring to posts, of which there may be ten thousand total, but I don't even know if Zenforo has a "show a post as a single page". It's the kind of mistake boomer judges love to make, so it won't harm him at all.

Interesting that he uses articles written far after the "infringement" to prove things.