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Conan said:
The most significant development in the last several years has been the widespread revelation inside right wing circles that leftism and it's ideological underpinnings are secular replacements for religion but are still imbued with strong religious fervor and devotion.

20 years ago conservatives viewed left wing politics as simply the opposite side of the coin operated by the same type of rational people on the right; "they could be reasonable and persuaded" was still the default approach.

Today, we have correctly identified leftism as not a political stance or set of policy options, but as a religion with articles of faith, priests, heretics, and original sin.

Leftist political devotion, as @The Ugly One so succinctly put it, is faith based and cannot be "destroyed by facts and logic". Whites are evil, browns are good, guns are evil, criminals are good, having children is evil, deindustrialization is good.
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Once upon a time, lefties believed in evolution normally, and it made them happy to spite the idea of god.

Now they’ve decided to attempt to control and pervert evolution. You’re not allowed to throw down tyrants, junkies are revived and set back on the street, you can’t defend yourself in places they control, and they want to subsidize the lives of people who won’t work.

It’s like if melkor suddenly had the realization that his typical evil had been sung already in the ainulindalë and it pissed him off and set him to trying to control higher order systems
 
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ghastlyretard said:
Expecting a bunch of malnourished shit skins to properly utilize Western technology is a stretch. Ineffective operators make for poor examples of their combat effectiveness.
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The thing is though the American interventionist crowd been relying on India to counter China and importing many of them on the side.

And as was seen last week, those hopes just got crushed badly and isn't much of a surprise looking at how Silicon Valley has gone to shit.

The fact that an email is mandatory to start up Windows 11 is absolute bullshit and discriminatory at people who don't want to deal with emails.
 
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Candlelight Desolation said:
>Darwin

Yeah, reading Paradise Lost twice in your life decades apart makes someone knowledgeable about Christian theology. - Incidentally, look at what happens when societies secularize; you get things like "Can dogs be transgender" and similar talking points becoming widespread.

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Religion ought to be about "Have faith that God exists within uncertainty", not "Deny what you see before you and replace it with God."
Agnostic cognitive dissonance to serve psychological and social aims is not the same as faith. You don't have to take everything at face value.

Your pic is so unbelievably fucking retarded
>Homo Sapiens is 200k years old (anatomically modern and "fully evolved" humans (sapiens sapiens) first existed 90-160k years ago)

>Evidence of civilization is 10-12k years old, most evidence before that suggests loose and violent tribal life, and is limited to carved seashells and clay statues the like

>It took 5-6k years of civilizations rising and falling before the progenitors to modern culture came to settle, and it took an additional 2-3k years before the foundations of modern culture and standards of premodern civilizational organization, resource accumulation and trade, economy, and warfare fully came about, and early foundational technologies like crude steam engines first came to be understood, but not exploited due to non-plus-ultra culture, an additional ~1500 years for the foundations of mathematics and science to solidify, and an additional 4-500 years for the right men to be in the right position to invent labor reducing steam powered machines sending mankind into a positive feedback loop of industrial optimization, population growth, and technological development which eventually gave us the means to build vehicles with enough endogenous delta v potential to propel humans into stable orbits around the planet, and beyond.

>The 190k years of human tribal strife, cultural metamorphosis, cataclysmic events, migration, racial speciation, and adaptation were obviously fake because humankind, without structured education, records of information, or understanding of natural laws, did not magically know about every future black swan event, and plan and act accordingly

That image is retarded and you are retarded
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
Once upon a time, lefties believed in evolution normally, and it made them happy to spite the idea of god.

Now they’ve decided to attempt to control and pervert evolution. You’re not allowed to throw down tyrants, junkies are revived and set back on the street, you can’t defend yourself in places they control, and they want to subsidize the lives of people who won’t work.

It’s like if melkor suddenly had the realization that his typical evil had been sung already in the ainulindalë and it pissed him off and set him to trying to control higher order systems
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Anarco-Tyranny is a tool for them.
 
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Jaimas said:
If you look past the people who were doing that back then, cursory analysis of them showed you the real reason they were doing it: It wasn't just them being taught shitty lessons - shitty lessons are a problem but they do not, in and of themselves, create shitty people like these. Instead, it was the pathological need to be morally superior to someone. It shows a stunning level of insecurity and immaturity, existing solely to allow the shittiest possible people to be dicks to others with the full support of their conscience.
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Religious fanatics need heretics, backsliders, and infidels to punish in order to display their own righteousness. If there aren't any real ones handy, they'll create some. Not my original insight, but the prevelance of fake hate crimes and manufactured outrage shows that the demand for racism exceeds its supply.

namelesstacotruck said:
Society was rebuilt from the groundup to prevent National Socialism from ever rising again. And i dont mean Nazi's. I mean Nation first people who care about society and its inhabitants and view time tested solutions to get there as a viable approach. Yes it stops Nazis too but its basically against all social right wing positions.

This was done by a combination of actors such as Dems making sure their enemies could never rise again. Capitalists making sure they wouldnt get challenges from the right on their excess. Jews to make sure that a nation would never demand a subgroup assimilate ever again. Communists for obvious reasons. All of those groups are fine with China except hardcore communists who Xi got rid of. The commies over here are fine with the technical W of the CCP being commie in name.
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The postwar order from 1945-1965 was Wilsonian, and what you might call "neighborly nationalism." The vision was that each people group would have its own nation-state, resource needs would be resolved through trade and diplomacy, immigration would be limited (millions upon millions of Pakistanis migrating to England wasn't even technologically possible in 1945), and the UN would mediate disputes. It was a flawed vision because it assumed peace and technology would cause Muslims, Hindus, and other non-Christian civilizations to progress to where the West was, more or less, and that Jeffersonian rights & democracy were universal principles that all cultures would eventually embrace as they advanced.

However, the deeper problem is that Communists never accepted the vision to begin with. The Communists' vision was for a global, homogeneous society, no nations, no borders, no cultures, no peoples. All states, languages, religions, national identities, economies, and histories would be replaced by the unifield world of Communism. The West never dealt with its own internal Communism problem, because our doctrines of free speech made it hard to understand how to deal with it, and so Marxists successfully subverted every academy in our entire sphere and, by the 1960s, had replaced "neighborly nationalism" with Marxism. The first two steps of Marxism in the West were race-Marxism and gender-Marxism. However, the collapse of the USSR and the undeniable crimes of both the USSR and the PRC discredited economic and political Communism completely, but we'd already wholly bought in morally and culturally to race-Marxism and gender-Marxism, leading eventaully to sexuality-Marxism (transgenderism is just gender-Marxism + sexuality-Marxism), and are just lurching along with our own weird, hybrid of Marxism and capitalism, which is in truth what every Marxist society ends up doing because Communism causes starvation, and people like to eat.
 
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Your Girlfriend's Dad said:
Oh we fucking absolutely do. We put these fucking scum up in hotels. We take them to whatever hospital they want. They invariably get kicked out of EVERY SINGLE PLACE WE TAKE THEM.

That's the problem, we treat these people with compassion, and when they throw it in our face we do... nothing. 20 years ago they would end up in a cage, where by any metric they belong. Now we just repeat the cycle of toxic positivity until they move along or die.

I say as soon as you exhaust the goodwill of three whole cities we should just bury you in Potter's Field and move on to someone whom we might actually help.
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Anecdote time:

The city I am in has a terrible homeless problem. Recently, a bunch of progressives succeeded in getting funding to create their dream service that they swore would be the darling of the entire nation.

It started with converting an old, large hotel into a place with beds, showers, food, wrap around services for getting clean, job prospects, mental health doctors... you name it. It was a fucking one stop shop that anyone who's fallen into homelessness could enter and walk out clean, with a job, medications, and a line on permanent housing. There were "Security" personnel, but actual police were discouraged from going in unless they were specifically called or had a warrant. This was to encourage addicts to take shelter there to address the mistrust of police.

The catch: You had to follow some very basic human considerations. Simple things like not shitting and pissing in the bushes out front. Common sense things like "don't drag your scrap metal you salvaged out of a dumpster to the lobby and leave it in a corner." No nonsense things like: Don't sit outside the door and harass or molest people walking by. Basically, don't act like a fucking savage animal.

The building is back to a privately owned again after a couple years of the neighborhood being terrorized by swarms of Fent/Meth heads and psychotic individuals standing in traffic and yelling at cars and clouds. I'm not sure if that was because the program was put together and ran like shit, or the people simply took advantage of a place to get high in relative comfort. Probably a little of both.

But we spent a shit ton of taxpayer dollars. We were scolded repeatedly by nigger women and blue hairs on the news about how we need to give these people a break and how if we just exhibit a little compassion, we could help these people. Stepping over puddles of human piss and replacing your car windows was a small price to pay.

It was everything progressive folks have insisted would solve the problem for decades and it became everything normal people knew it would be in a matter of weeks. Fucking animals. All of them.
 
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The Ugly One said:
However, the deeper problem is that Communists never accepted the vision to begin with. The Communists' vision was for a global, homogeneous society, no nations, no borders, no cultures, no peoples. All states, languages, religions, national identities, economies, and histories would be replaced by the unifield world of Communism. The West never dealt with its own internal Communism problem, because our doctrines of free speech made it hard to understand how to deal with it, and so Marxists successfully subverted every academy in our entire sphere and, by the 1960s, had replaced "neighborly nationalism" with Marxism. The first two steps of Marxism in the West were race-Marxism and gender-Marxism. However, the collapse of the USSR and the undeniable crimes of both the USSR and the PRC discredited economic and political Communism completely, but we'd already wholly bought in morally and culturally to race-Marxism and gender-Marxism, leading eventaully to sexuality-Marxism (transgenderism is just gender-Marxism + sexuality-Marxism), and are just lurching along with our own weird, hybrid of Marxism and capitalism, which is in truth what every Marxist society ends up doing because Communism causes starvation, and people like to eat
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Three Communist empires each with a tailored Marxism to each one.
 
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StudMccool said:
IDK boss I think its a hilarious meme and got some good truth to it, Im like a good bit of what trumps doing and even think the middle east foreign policy is good but strip all your feelings about both sides away for a second

He yells at one guy for showing up to meeting in tshirt, height of disrespect (cause he owes us money)

Goes to another meeting diffrent guy he likes with flip flops and says nothing (got free plane from him)

and dont give me the whole "they cant cause culture or something"
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these guys figured out shoes and one even stumbled into a tailor it seems, what luck!
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I don't know if you need a med schedule change, sleep, or both but you've been coming across as very, very strange in a thread full of very strange people. If you can't figure out how important respect is and how it relates to culture in foreign policy, you need to reflect on the prior post that already explained it, and explained it well. You've been ping ponging back and forth so much from TDS to Trump is cool that it's becoming schizo and impossible to take you seriously anymore. Which is too bad because you've had some good posts in the past.

Trump seems to be fighting to bring respect back to the US, both on our own soil and worldwide. While I don't for a single second trust any country to be an ally anymore (including Israel) it's nice to see our head of state getting some respect because in turn it's giving respect to our nation, something that's been lacking for a long, long time.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
The thing is though the American interventionist crowd been relying on India to counter China and importing many of them on the side.
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The biological argument doesn't even work here because the Pakis are just Muslim jeets. What does throw a bit of a wrench into is that India was using Russian & European tech and the Pakis still have ties to US defense contractors.

I'm not sure if it's a statement on hardware quality or a statement that Indians can only function if they're ruled over by a dictatorship serving as a client for foreign powers. Literally the only times that India has shown even a glimmer of civilization were when they were ruled by steppe people or Europeans.
 
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COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
This is like giving two chimpanzees an America and Chinese manufactured gun respectively, and extrapolating analysis off those encounters. I know that sounds like racism (it is) but I'm also talking about things like training and tactics.
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Actually that works perfectly as a metaphor since everyone here was watching the conflict like it was two chimpanzees with guns lol
 
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