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[Sooty Soot]

Do you have a link to the mod?

Did they really not have everything on a github?

It's on Steam, called Red Worldux. On further digging, it seems it was Kaiser1871 (the dev of the origonal pre-fanfork RW) that was working on it and got his laptop stolen after he died and it was the one with the dev build.

 

[foreman 89]

Sometimes hoi4 mods makes me feel like we could have lived in a much better timeline. Instead of our world we could of had TfR. Lived and died with purpose in the second American civil war hellscape. Be a hero or be a rambunctious rascal and nair do well. It could have been hard and devastating but a meaningful life for all. But instead we are living in the mostly nothing happens bland The Turbulent Waters: a millennial dawn continuation mod.

Yeah I'm sure people in Gaza, Ukraine, Congo etc sure are loving the hellscape.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Back from a 5 day ban after making janny seethe because of me extolling how great India is, bloody bich behenchodi.
Anyways, I've been eyeing up Red World as of late, the fanfork is dead but some guy forked the fanfork (lol) and has made sure it's up to date. RW trees seem to vary in quality a lot, France has a huge focus tree for example but the Soviet Union has one that's slightly or moderately smaller. The original fanfork devs were working on a USSR update but the laptop with the dev build got stolen. I'm going to try making a focus tree for Germany with 10-12 years of content first, with two main paths, one for communism and another for fascism/right wing extremism.

Each path will have three subpaths, commies get wholesome chungus 100 demsocs that are still a dictatorship, the next one will be Revolutionary socialists/standard communists who tow the line with Moscow. Both of them get to federalize the EUSR (European Union of Socialist Republics, RW's version of the EU) if the USSR collapses, abandons communism, or chooses Putin and goes full totalitarian. Third path will be NazBols who have to placate Mosow to not get couped and fucked in the ass before declaring TRD and trying to conquer all of Europe.

Far right will be nationalists (Basically AfD-dominant democracy), fascists/NatSocs, and maybe a Kaiser path, but I absolutely despise Kaiserboos so I'll make it a bait-n-switch that locks you into the AfD path. You'll have to hold out against the USSR and Commie Europe for maybe 150-200 days. After that, depending on if you hold Prague, the Lowlands, Breslau, and Alsace you get more land in the final peace deal. Nationalists will get a chance to liberate the land they conquered, except Western Poland and Alsace, fascists will annex it all outright. Conversely, if you lose Austria, it will get puppeted. The Nationalists will get defensive bonuses whilst the NatSocs will get offensive ones. After the peace, you get a chance to ally Turkey, Spain, and Britain depending on their political alignments and from there have one big climatic war in Europe against the Russians. I could move the Nazbol path here to act as a third path and make it so the third path for the commies is going Trotskyist and trying to overthrow Moscow.

After that, I could try updating the Soviets, giving more content to post collapse nations and brushing up the communist content. I haven't tried doing extensive focus tree or focus icon modding before, but I can learn as I go.

Very cool.
Speaking of Red World, did you know today is the 8th anniversary of the release of the original Red World made by Kaiser1871? Red world came out on May 17th, 2017.

 

[Melight]

Speaking of Red World, did you know today is the 8th anniversary of the release of the original Red World made by Kaiser1871? Red world came out on May 17th, 2017.

And the fanfork still hasnt made any progress since taking over the mod like 4 years ago

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

It's on Steam, called Red Worldux.

Is that the Canadian submod made by that kaiserredux dev that does the Joe Biden impersonations or is it the one made by that Chinese hoi4 modder?

And the fanfork still hasnt made any progress since taking over the mod like 4 years ago

The worst part is that the devs spent most of that time bitching and moaning about politics instead of working on what kaiser wanted to do with the mod.

 

[Sooty Soot]

Is that the Canadian submod made by that kaiserredux devs that does the (((Joe Biden))) impersonations or is it the one made by that Chinese hoi4 modder?

Chinese guy I think.
Anyways, been having screen issues so work has been slow, but I got the opening half of the focus tree done. Give or take, it should take around ~175-200 days to complete. The "Shake hands with the Stasi" focus gives you the option of having the Stasi provide security for the congress, if you do it goes off without a hitch and you get the regular communist paths.
If you don't the Congress gets bombed after its event chain is completed by far right militants, with your current leader missing, presumed to have died in the blast. From then on, the Stasi in an attempt to deflect blame blames the military and try to arrest them, leading to a coup headed by Richard Rossmanth. Midway through, Rossmanth reassures the USSR 1981-Poland style, and from there he either hands over power to the nationalists who withdraw from the Warsaw Pact or is cajoled by radical rank-and-file enlisted soldiers and NCOs into putting the fascists in power through the threat of mutiny.
Alternatively the more radical national communists who survived the bombing and went on to be radicalized by the ensuing chaos can form a pact with the fascists and persuade the other generals with promises of funding for the military, pressuring Rossmanth to step down. Mind you, all of this happen within the span of 70 days.

 

[GoodWinSon]

Chinese guy I think.
Anyways, been having screen issues so work has been slow, but I got the opening half of the focus tree done. Give or take, it should take around ~175-200 days to complete. The "Shake hands with the Stasi" focus gives you the option of having the Stasi provide security for the congress, if you do it goes off without a hitch and you get the regular communist paths.
If you don't the Congress gets bombed after its event chain is completed by far right militants, with your current leader missing, presumed to have died in the blast. From then on, the Stasi in an attempt to deflect blame blames the military and try to arrest them, leading to a coup headed by Richard Rossmanth. Midway through, Rossmanth reassures the USSR 1981-Poland style, and from there he either hands over power to the nationalists who withdraw from the Warsaw Pact or is cajoled by radical rank-and-file enlisted soldiers and NCOs into putting the fascists in power through the threat of mutiny.
Alternatively the more radical national communists who survived the bombing and went on to be radicalized by the ensuing chaos can form a pact with the fascists and persuade the other generals with promises of funding for the military, pressuring Rossmanth to step down. Mind you, all of this happen within the span of 70 days.
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Legend has it if you add anime girls to the focus icons Hitler will appear behind you and snap your neck.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

On further digging, it seems it was Kaiser1871 (the dev of the origonal pre-fanfork RW) that was working on it and got his laptop stolen after he died and it was the one with the dev build.

Yeah, we will always miss you Tom (Kaiser1871), it's such of a shame that that happened. We are still thinking about you everyday man.

Chinese guy I think.

Taobei is cool. I've met the other Red Worldux devs they seem like good people.

 

[GoodWinSon]

@Sooty Soot Do you still have your Tyumen submod? I'll upload to steam along side Rises Again, but if you don't mind I want to take a look at your dynamic state name code. I think it will be useful for my own purposes.

Shared Russian economy tree. Skimped out on the icons, but I could always make unique ones later.

 

[Sooty Soot]

@Sooty Soot Do you still have your Tyumen submod? I'll upload to steam along side Rises Again, but if you don't mind I want to take a look at your dynamic state name code. I think it will be useful for my own purposes.
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Shared Russian economy tree. Skimped out on the icons, but I could always make unique ones later.

Sure do, currently out right now so I don't have it on me but I think I uploaded it before in the thread. Either way I'll zip up the testing version in-case the old .zip is out of date.

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

(Most of) These redditors don’t seem to understand the concept of “Everyone’s the hero of their own story.”

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[Amerikaner Teddybär]

(Most of) These redditors don’t seem to understand the concept of “Everyone’s the hero of their own story.”
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Your first mistake was expecting nuance from Redditors.

 

[Sooty Soot]

@Sooty Soot Do you still have your Tyumen submod? I'll upload to steam along side Rises Again, but if you don't mind I want to take a look at your dynamic state name code. I think it will be useful for my own purposes.
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Shared Russian economy tree. Skimped out on the icons, but I could always make unique ones later.

Have fun
Feel free to make your own thumbnails

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I guess Ashes of L:ibertad is kinda back but will be rebooted.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907985060

 

[GoodWinSon]

Have fun
Feel free to make your own thumbnails

Thanks, I owe you one. If I every need a dev for India I'll know where to look.

Shared russian navy/air tree. Honestly RUS doesn't have much need for a navy gameplay wise but here we are.

 

[Notorious N.I.G]

The Anticipated Red Dusk Update is coming out right now as i'm making this post. Will be keen to hear what some of you guys think about it.


Edit: Just finished a UK Playthrough, Went Rad labour. What a buggy fucking mess this shitshow was. I've been told that the Devs didn't want to Playtest this and it shows.

 

[Sooty Soot]

The Anticipated Red Dusk Update is coming out right now as i'm making this post. Will be keen to hear what some of you guys think about it.


Edit: Just finished a UK Playthrough, Went Rad labour. What a buggy fucking mess this shitshow was. I've been told that the Devs didn't want to Playtest this and it shows.

The duality of man.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

The Anticipated Red Dusk Update is coming out right now as i'm making this post. Will be keen to hear what some of you guys think about it.


Edit: Just finished a UK Playthrough, Went Rad labour. What a buggy fucking mess this shitshow was. I've been told that the Devs didn't want to Playtest this and it shows.

What others things did they add?

 

[Notorious N.I.G]

What others things did they add?

The Czechs have a small starting tree (Unfinished though) and the UK has Four Paths. Conservative, Labour, Radical Labour and Liberal. However they didn't exactly test anything because quite a few events and stuff at the time of writing my original post were Broken. The other Issue is that outside of the few Interventions the UK can do, the Game is very Boring.

At least the Soviets can pretty much intervene in Most wars and send Volunteers.

 

[I_Lurk_Here]

The Anticipated Red Dusk Update is coming out right now as i'm making this post. Will be keen to hear what some of you guys think about it.


Edit: Just finished a UK Playthrough, Went Rad labour. What a buggy fucking mess this shitshow was. I've been told that the Devs didn't want to Playtest this and it shows.

The UK had more content than what I was expecting but #NothingEverHappened. Specifically surprised and upset that there's a lot about Northern Ireland in the first year or two then it's never mentioned again. Would be different if you could annex + core it with minor alliance option for the ROI.