Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

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At least according to the ABA, if a lawyer is substantially assisting a pro se in drafting filings, he has an ethical duty to disclose this to the court and actually sign any documents on which he substantially assisted. This is just the ABA's opinion, though, and isn't actually the law everywhere.

It's generally permissible, though. It's legal to act pro se. It's legal to assist someone in doing something that's legal. That's the prevailing opinion about lawyers assisting pro se litigants with or without compensation.
I had to do that once where I got hired shortly before a filing deadline, but then new information came to light that made me withdraw because there was too much to fully process whether there would be ethical issues with proceeding (just the case register for the case I would need to review was ~8 pages long); since it would be difficult for the client to obtain new counsel and get something filed before deadline, I returned the retainer and provided them with the documents they would need to file, and let opposing counsel know that I had drafted the documents but was not currently acting as their representative. I spoke with ethics counsel for the bar, and they were fine with that.
 
That's our boy Greer. He doesn't want Hardin to get an extension, because Greer's own extensions have been denied. That's literally the only reason he's protesting. He doesn't care that a delay would probably be to his own benefit so he can spend more time coming up with stupid shit to file and more harebrained schemes to present to the court. All that matters is that Hardin gets toys (delays) and he doesn't, so he screams about it.

Exactly this. When Hardin made his extension request, my first thought was "huh, this seems to benefit Russ more then it does Josh, what am I missing?" Before I saw where he was coming from but still felt it was beneficial to Russ as well, and wondering if Shitlips was going to be stupid enough to oppose it just because The Hardship asked for it while slapping him verbally as well?

Question answered in the affirmative. :story:
 
This is the legal equivalent of a drunk call from your ex at 3am.
I believe in KFland that would be a drunk text from Nick Rekieta in the shower at midnight.
Sanction is due for whenever it was issued, so he's very late on this.
Maybe if a judge says "Hey, I can't help, but you can file your request with the District Court Judge and see what he thinks." Maybe that should be a priority? Nah. Let's file a bunch of irrelevant BS instead.
 
I can't decide which legal cow I love more

Greer or Stebbins (Acerthorn)
Stebbins, I think, is funnier.

Greer is, IMO, more obnoxious because he is just barely competent enough to where the court has been granting him more latitude than he really deserves.

Accordingly, I find him more irritating than funny.
 
Oh, I was misinformed then, I thought I heard on MATI that he missed the deadline. My bad.
If you read 290, it seems that he filed late and asked the clerk to backdate it, since "[the retard] doesn't have access to PACER."

Judge might need to have words with the clerk, if the clerk is helping the retard fraudulently file things after a deadline.
 
If you read 290, it seems that he filed late and asked the clerk to backdate it, since "[the retard] doesn't have access to PACER."

Judge might need to have words with the clerk, if the clerk is helping the retard fraudulently file things after a deadline.
There has been some question as to if the clerk receives a email or fax document before midnight but isn't at work, does it still count like it would if directly filed electronically. It appears for fax that it counts when the fax machine receives it, so I think this one goes to Greer as long as it made it in the clerks inbox before midnight Utah time.
 
Ah, what's this, been away for a bit to run to the bank, an update to the Greer thread, quite good holy fucking shit six pages what the fuck happened this gunna be good chair.gif
Greer used "oddly" in the EMERGENCY motion to delay the hearing too, when referring to the timing of his Winnemucca engagement. He must really like that word.
He uses it when he thinks mentioning something will get someone in trouble. "My pen is gone and oddly Null has a new pen just like it."

He's really juvinile.

And stop comparing Greer to Gollum, he did much better arguing his position and withstood questioning by Sauron himself; he'd do damn better than Greer.
 
i feel like now is a time to post this important reminder of who russell greer is and how he presents himself: https://youtu.be/q_Y3XFDPdJs?si=SwPYFkZ67VGdeI8R

edit: reminder, this song was inspired by a Dominican instathot, and he thought a white woman would be a great representation for that. still can’t figure out how the video/song is about personality/body positivity.

editedit: don’t know a single woman of any background or nationality that wants to be compared to an enchilada.
 
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Rule 1 of litigating is to not insult the judge. I thought even a saliva dripping idiot would know that.
Russell's a classic keyboard warrior. Submissive and meek face-to-face, but a ball of macho rage from the other side of a screen.

He said he could pay, because he was too weak to lie and bluster in person. Now that he's safe in his room/car, that bias judge better watch out, buddy boy.
 
Greer probably pays extra for the whores at the brothels to check under the bed to make sure Hardin isn't there ready to attack him with proper legal filings.

"Hardin could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this Circuit before. There could be Hardins anywhere." The desert wind felt good against his bare teeth. "I HATE HARDIN" he thought. I Don't Get You Taylor Swift reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $5 energy drink circulated through his powerful thick skull and washed away his (merited) fear of lawyers after dark. "With a whore, you can fuck anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
 
Maybe I'm being a double Greer, but WTF does this have to do with Hardin's stated reasons for asking for an extension? He didn't call Greer's filing late, at all. He simply stated when the filing appeared for the sole purpose of listing a due date for the Defense reply.

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I know, Greer is spazzing out over everything and nothing, but there's literally nothing there. It's like we're missing something, maybe an early Tuesday email from Hardin claiming Russ missed the deadline before it actually dropped on PACER. But that's not before the court, it's only in Greer's inbox, if it exists; and if it did I would've expected Russ to add an iPhone screenshot as an exhibit.
Maybe he jumped the gun and assume Hardin called him out for being late. I mean he clearly says he uploaded it May 13th. Give me clocks if I'm wrong, but .... Wasn't it due May 12th?

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Does Greer think that the Magistrate in this District Court is going to give him a "personal protective order" against opposing counsel? And by extension, does he think this paragraph in his spittle-flecked opposition filing is how to request that?
"Your honor the defense attorney keeps defending the defendant instead of helping me, can you make him stop doing that? I'm the most important person in the world, my mommy told me so before she disowened me."
 
I mean he uploaded it May 13th. Wasn't it due May 12th?

It was due May 12th, but he doesn't have direct access like Hardin does. Greer has to email (or I guess fax) his crap to the Clerk. It's entirely possible he sent it in before midnight like he was supposed to and the Clerk plopped it onto the docket when the court opened in the morning.

Side note on faxing, there are a bunch of free online services that will send a fax for you if you upload your documents, in the event you're dealing with some Mesozoic organization that still insists you fax your docs instead of email them.
 
>tfw you push so hard and jump at things at face value
>tfw you have done considered doing business

Well, it definitely wasn't ghostwritten. We have sentences that are just careless heaps of misused cliches -- the signature Greer style -- and the closing passage is a masterpiece of projection. Greer Hardin isn't a real attorney! He's conducting sham investigations and wasting everyone's time with harassing, legally meritless filings! He's a scary stalker! Someone has to stop him!
 
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