Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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Can anyone here seriously think Greer could actually run one? He just thinks it will allow him to get his dick sucked for free. That is about as far as he has thought about it.
His original plan was to bring in an older woman with brothel management experience to basically run the entire thing once he got it up and going (with help from his mystery billionaire benefactor) while he just did whatever, basically.

So yeah, sounds like he figured he'd just hang out and "sample the wares" and not much else.
 
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Today, Matthew Hardin had to sit down and think through the ramifications of being hit with the most retarded protective order ever. Then figure out how to politely word the utterly stupid outcomes the court would have to deal with.
Can someone with some experience with the most retarded arguments ever in legal filings answer me this:

Considering how insane the thing with the protective order is, would no response maybe have been better?

Hardins reasoning is sound but could the judge feel offended by Hardin even entertaining the thought of the protective order succeeding?
After all stupidity from Greer is expected and this rebuttal by Hardin might seem like fancy sophistry and rhetoric in the face of an insane filing.
 
The only way the eating could be better is if Greer told the judge to fuck off.

Re: TV lawyers - Denny crane would have Greer declared a monster. Not like, ethically, but physically. He's repulsive to behold. Alan Shore would make sure it stuck. "Your honor, the plaintiff is hideous, and the court should not have to look at him. I move the plaintiff be forced to wear a beekepers helmet. He's ghastly."
 
Considering how insane the thing with the protective order is, would no response maybe have been better?
No response is never better. At a bare minimum, you need to file something that says, "HERE COME the defendands and what is this shit? No. Fuck this shit." or you get raped for infinity dollars and/or your case transferred to Florida.
 
Even Greer must know what a dumb move it would be. The judge is not going to be happy if a pro se loon tries to hoodwink the court into kicking out the defendant's lawyer on the grounds of an ex parte and malicious restraining order. He's a federal judge in Utah, not some random person in Las Vegas. The fact that he's threatening this in a legal filing means he thinks the end is near.
Actually this is a genius strategy. All Null has to do is get a restraining order against the judge, then they have to dismiss the case!
 
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Harvey Specter: Your honor, what the fuck is wrong with his face? Like seriously, the case IS important, but this ghoul is HAUNTING! I have a blue folder asking that the plaintiff not be allowed in public on the basis of his face causes nightmares in children. Whatever happiness is, the plaintiff is the opposite! It's ex parte, but I am spending THOUSANDS on the scotch I need to drink to forget his visage. *Suits was very bad at actual law, this would not actually be ex parte.
 
All other considerations aside, I love how Hardin is managing to work the word "brothel" into the filings.
My favorite part was the "brothel startup". Russell is taking part of the boom!
Legal Brothels are also businesses with cut throat margins, regulatory compliance requirements, customer service on another level, ability too manage paid employees and contractors, payroll, supplies, utilities, taxes.

Can anyone here seriously think Greer could actually run one? He just thinks it will allow him to get his dick sucked for free. That is about as far as he has thought about it.
LOL. There's no way ANY of the business aspects of running a business crossed his mind. He's not even aware any exist outside of "pay money, fuck whore". Though I'd absolutely LOVE to hear how Russ envisions the hiring process. I doubt he thought that far. He either assumes women would materialize into existence or that he could pick up random streetwalkers.
His original plan was to bring in an older woman with brothel management experience to basically run the entire thing once he got it up and going (with help from his mystery billionaire benefactor) while he just did whatever, basically.

So yeah, sounds like he figured he'd just hang out and "sample the wares" and not much else.
Oh, that makes sense. At best, Russ's value is being the subject matter expert, or at least he thinks so. It's the only way the savvy (non-existent) financier makes any sense. Otherwise, Russ is an obvious, unnecessary middleman that brings nothing of value.

The entire scheme is such a bizarre concoction. I half-heartedly want his brothel ownership to happen, but on the condition that the workers can't suck him his penis. You think his most recent filing was bad? His reaction to that condition would be apocalyptic.
 
Defendants have requested an extension pending the outcome of several motions currently before the court that will have direct impact on their response. This is rational, reasonable, in the courts interest, and not in any way " I have an important business meeting that day so fuck you all! I need another month."

I'm not at all sure Russell has any idea what the extension is or why it's being requested. My sense is that Russell is completely enraged. Hardin has asked the court for something. Greer is going to show them what enormous testicles he has by insisting that they deny whatever he's asking for, and then complain about how he's being stalked and needs a protective order.

If he understood what the request for an extension was all about, he'd have attempted to come up with reasons why such a request was invalid and should be denied. He doesn't bother with any of that. Russell wants him his penis sucked, Taylor Swift, Arianna Grande, Null, Matthew Hardin and the Judge WILL suck him his penis.

The retard has spoken. If you refuse to suck him his penis, you're just doing hate crimes against the disabled.
 
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editedit: don’t know a single woman of any background or nationality that wants to be compared to an enchilada.

I have a hard time believing anyone thought making such a comparison is a good idea. I mean, Rusty is retarded, but even for him that takes it up a notch.

But here it is, clear as day... SMH...
 
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Today, Matthew Hardin had to sit down and think through the ramifications of being hit with the most retarded protective order ever. Then figure out how to politely word the utterly stupid outcomes the court would have to deal with.
The funniest part I think is that I believe Russhole thinks he DID file a protection order request from the court in his email today.

Hardin basically just told Ratmouth what to actually do (file in a local court, paying money to do so) probably because he knows perfectly well it will be laughed out of any court based on the grounds the Bamboon would use in his filing, which boil down to "he is mean to me while doing his job so well it's causing me hardships!"

It just gets better and better!
 
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I'm not at all sure Russell has any idea what the extension is or why it's being requested. My sense is that Russell is completely enraged. Hardin has asked the court for something. Greer is going to show them what enormous testicles he has by insisting that they deny whatever he's asking for, and then complain about how he's being stalked and needs a protective order.
He doesn't. It's in part due to the judge denying his motion to postpone the hearing that was happening the next day. The hearing that was scheduled MONTHS prior. It's also in part due to the recent correspondence between Useful Hardin and the county. There's nothing that makes Russ seethe more than other people finding out about his... proclivities... Especially if it's because the notifier is someone Russ is already seething towards.
 
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Hardin basically just told Ratmouth what to actually do (file in a local court, paying money to do so) probably because he knows perfectly well it will be laughed out of any court based on the grounds the Bamboon would use in his filing, which boil down to "he is mean to me while doing his job so we'll it's causing me hardships!"
Hardin also accounts for the "gentle handling" that tard plaintiffs enjoy. He acknowledges that Russ MAY get a RO, and is prepared accordingly. WELL OILED.
 
He's a federal judge in Utah, not some random person in Las Vegas. The fact that he's threatening this in a legal filing means he thinks the end is near.
A state court judge can't do dick to interfere with a federal court's jurisdiction, and any state court that did so would be in a world of pain.
 
You know Russ is angry when he outright opposes an extension instead of his fake bigger man move of "I don't oppose or endorse an extension, I just find it ironic when HARDIN was against my extension of a few days which turned into 2 weeks which turned into a request for a 90 day stay which turned into a retroactive request for an extension of 5 months which turned into 7."
 
I know we aren't supposed to discuss legal advice, but Russ' most recent filing has me feeling nervous. His adoption of a more aggresive strategy with the judge could be Hardin's undoing. We've been skating on this ice and this could easily be the last straw that swings the judge to his side. If he keeps citing the Mother Jones article, the judge will eventually start doing his own investigation into the matter.

Please Mr. Potter, take down Mr. Greer's thread already. I besseech thee. I signed up for this account with my government email and I can't afford to lose my job at the DMV.
 
The District judge took Greer's IFP status so seriously, he reduced a sanction when he wasn't supposed to. It's not unreasonable for Greer to think he'll get a better shot with him, than with the Magistrate who casually bankrupted his brothel dreams with 1 question.
The District Judge is going to go fucking Apeshit on Greer when Greer appeals the Sanctions or seeks an appeal bond from him.

The District Judge took pitty on the pro se retard. And in doing so comitted a few major procedural errors. Enough that the defense has appeals grounds on the sanctions alone.

And now he's finding out that the retard misrepresented himself as IFP? He's going to go insane. It's not simply the admiting to the Magistrate to his face that he can pay he just does not want to. It's that he has paid filing fees to other courts over hooker related, cases while he has claimed IFP before this court. The District Judge will go berserk once he figures that out.
I had to Google how ex parte restraining orders work. If Russ did get one, that probably would mess with Hardin's ability to file motions and conduct his investigations into Greer's activities, at least initially.

Now I am wondering why Russ hasn't tried that sooner. Probably because it was just bluster on his part and he wasn't actually thinking about any of the potential consequences of trying to get such an order.
Attempting to do this would almost certainly constitute a crime. Both before whatever local city county or state court he tries it. And in front of the 10th circuit judges. It is an act of purely criminal bad faith. It is fraud before several courts.

At best the local courts would once again kick it back to him because any such order would grossly violate Null and Hardins rights.
Greer is actually pretty good at brinksmanship. He (thinks) he has a weapon he can scare with (tell the principal, ask for sanctions, etc) and uses it to scare. But he's smart enough to realize that IF he pulls the trigger, either it works or it doesn't, and if it doesn't, he's fucked, unless he has another.

He's threatened sanctions a number of times, and then when he tried to pull it he got shit on. He'll continue to threaten restraining orders until he is blue in the face, but not actually try for one.

Of course, if he had a restraining order against KIWIFARMS or NULL, they'd not be able to defend the case, and Greer would win instantly. Pity he didn't realize that. <insert AI tithitler here>
Greer's an idiot. He's not smart enough to realize anything until it hits him.
Even Greer must know what a dumb move it would be. The judge is not going to be happy if a pro se loon tries to hoodwink the court into kicking out the defendant's lawyer on the grounds of an ex parte and malicious restraining order. He's a federal judge in Utah, not some random person in Las Vegas. The fact that he's threatening this in a legal filing means he thinks the end is near.
It simply means hes an idiot. He thinks hes winning. "Just gotra say those magic words! Appeals Court already said he won. They have to do whatever he wants. "
would no response maybe have been better?
No. On things this stupid no response is never better. And there is generally not a downside to responding to something this idiotic. If just to preserve the idiocy for appeal.
 
I think the magistrate is not going to be amused by this latest spergout.
We have his report made from before his KF thread was made when he reported the news, Reddit, and his friends to the police for harassment. The police refused to entertain that complaint, but it was still retained by them and provided to me.

That is all to say that if he has made any report, it would show up.
I wouldn't place too much stock in "reports" to police being handled consistently. While one cop may have taken that silly "report" from Russ, another would nod, act like he was writing everything down, and then bin it and code the encounter something else to avoid paperwork (the goal of most in that position). Instead of classifying it as a report of a crime, they classify it as an "assist citizen" (no name required) because it wasn't within jurisdiction (and also wasn't criminal).

Sometimes this has caused significant problems, like when cops tend to avoid filing missing person reports... but in this case I don't think anyone would fault someone for blowing russ off.
 
Null did say court cases are decided by emotion.

Can Greer successfully convince the court (despite the court's prior best efforts to win his case for him) he is a schizo and/or manipulative liar instead of a poor (no whores, no brothel, broke limp dick loser) drooling retard bullying victim of a stalking site?

He shouldn't let this BIAS-ADDLED defense lawyer get away with this! :^)
JFC I did not expect my joke to come fucking true...
 
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